Originally posted by Dsoto87:
Originally posted by ElDannMann:
Imagine thinking Stafford was the reason the Rams won.
Dude couldn't even win Super Bowl MVP when it's basically gifted to QBs every year. He's an upgrade alright, but he's an interception machine just like Jimmy. Rams won in spite of Stafford.
Y'all act like we would've won with Stafford under center. That's funny af. Would've been the same script, we lose to LAR in the championship game as long as they were able to find some average to above average QB.
Lmao the constant moving of the goalposts is hilarious. Y'all were s**tting on him talking about how he can't win a big/playoff game. Dude goes out and wins a Super Bowl. So now it's, "he can't even win SB MVP". Do y'all not see the irony in this??? 😂
Whenever Jimmy's actual play is brought up, you all point to how he "just wins". I thought that's all that matters at the end of the day? Is that not what loser Stafford just did while Jimmy the winner was sitting at home?
I mean I'm not going to say all of that but I never got or agreed with all the Stafford love and devotion amongst some here when it became obvious he was going to be available. I'll wait for the "Kyle wanted him too" band to strike up the chorus because yeah, Kyle said he did.
But he's always been a tad overrated by some in my book. All, and yes
ALL QB's will turn the ball over on occasion. Some do it a lot less frequently than their peers. But he threw two picks last night and would have thrown two picks in the NFC Championship game had Tartt held on to that ball. And, btw, quite likely if not quite possibly would have been sitting at home watching as well. Can't say for sure but that was a strong possiblity. He played well against Arizona and pretty well against Tampa. Although even in that game the last drive almost was short circuited by his own fumble that he was fortunate enough to basically have settle right underneath him.
He, like many others, is a good QB. I've never been inclined to call him great.
In Detroit, and I think I saw this here or somewhere last night that he was always clutch and had a good football IQ but Detroit was just terrible. Yet I know there was a contingent of Lions fans (and oddly, they do exist) who will say he was "clutch" because he wasn't very good earlier in the game. And yeah Detroit was terrible but they had a very good NFL defense statistically on occasion. As good as the Rams? Assuredly not as they didn't have multiple future Hall of Famers (Donald, Ramsey, Miller).
But those moving of the goal posts happen on both sides so there shouldn't be any pretending that there isn't.
"Jimmy needs a running game and a defense to succeed!"
"Stafford just never got any help from his running game or defense and that's why he never won anything."
I get that Stafford is the physically more gifted player. And he won a Super Bowl, which good for him. Seems like a decent humble guy. Can't say I was rooting for the Rams though as they basically were the New York Yankees Evil Empire of football plus our one team lead wanted the Bengals to fail so I wanted them to win to see her go crazy. Didn't happen though.