Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I love Jimmy. I think we can win a superbowl with him easily. Can he make all the throws? No. Does he have issues with the deep ball? Yes. Does he have issues throwing to the sidelines? Yes.

Do I think he's the best qb we've had since young? Yes.

Agree with most of what you said. I think he likes to throw inside, but he doesn't have issues throwing to the sidelines. I think Jeff Garcia would have something to say about Jimmy G being the best qb we have since Steve Young. Jeff Garcia had like 3 very good seasons.

So far its Garcia, Kap, Jimmy. Jimmy needs to show more than 1 good season. Cus that's all hes played so far. Kap had a great season and a half, and then fell off.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I love Jimmy. I think we can win a superbowl with him easily. Can he make all the throws? No. Does he have issues with the deep ball? Yes. Does he have issues throwing to the sidelines? Yes.

Do I think he's the best qb we've had since young? Yes.

Agree with most of what you said. I think he likes to throw inside, but he doesn't have issues throwing to the sidelines. I think Jeff Garcia would have something to say about Jimmy G being the best qb we have since Steve Young. Jeff Garcia had like 3 very good seasons.

I think the deep throws and sideline throws Jimmy supposedly has problems with would be solved with an additional deep threat WR and/or a WR that can quickly break press coverage. In other words, if we get another WR like an Aiyuk/Deebo and you have Kittle healthy roaming the middle - press defense or man against a three reciever set like that is suicidal.

We win that SB with Garcia (as old as he was) at QB

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
No he didnt. I specifically asked him if there were any of the 22 attempts that he felt Jimmy went to the wrong place, and he started rambling on about other stuff.

Kittle OPI? Irrelevant to my question.

4th quarter pressure? Irrelevant to my question.

4th quarter collapse? Irrelevant to my question.

Him saying I have been wrong for a year? Irrelevant to my question.

Should of went to Bourne on the missed long ball. Not hating on him for going deep but you miss that throw and it's 4th and long. He had Bourne, that's the #2 read and it doesn't take much to know he'd be open as Sanders was open on a double coverage that they botched.

Again not hating though as you make it you win and he was open but we paid for the miss.

I've re-watched the Superbowl and I think I only have two, the checkdown to Coleman when he had Kittle at the sticks leading to a FG was horrendous.

The miss of Bourne in the flat when under pressure in the 4th, it was a free rusher, but that was probably the hot read.

There was another that I felt Kittle should have been the target, but can't remember exactly where.

I think Kyle got into his head about watching out for the Honey badger, nearly all season we just fed Kittle on 3rd down, do it in the Superbowl and we probably win.

2 or 3 misreads, 1 missed throw and 1 poor interception. Tough margins.

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
No he didnt. I specifically asked him if there were any of the 22 attempts that he felt Jimmy went to the wrong place, and he started rambling on about other stuff.

Kittle OPI? Irrelevant to my question.

4th quarter pressure? Irrelevant to my question.

4th quarter collapse? Irrelevant to my question.

Him saying I have been wrong for a year? Irrelevant to my question.

Should of went to Bourne on the missed long ball. Not hating on him for going deep but you miss that throw and it's 4th and long. He had Bourne, that's the #2 read and it doesn't take much to know he'd be open as Sanders was open on a double coverage that they botched.

Again not hating though as you make it you win and he was open but we paid for the miss.

I've re-watched the Superbowl and I think I only have two, the checkdown to Coleman when he had Kittle at the sticks leading to a FG was horrendous.

The miss of Bourne in the flat when under pressure in the 4th, it was a free rusher, but that was probably the hot read.

There was another that I felt Kittle should have been the target, but can't remember exactly where.

I think Kyle got into his head about watching out for the Honey badger, nearly all season we just fed Kittle on 3rd down, do it in the Superbowl and we probably win.

2 or 3 misreads, 1 missed throw and 1 poor interception. Tough margins.

I actually only remember a small handful of plays too. I was curious to know if jonny, who breaks down film more than all of us, saw something similar. Tough margins for sure. My point was not that Jimmy needed to be perfect or that I expect him to be. Its just that simply stating "oooh 18 for 22" and then sticking your fingers in your ears eliminates all conversation and analysis. I think Jimmy played ok or even good in the first 3 quarters. But people who simply say 18/22 without any analysis are being disingenuous. A completed pass doesnt mean a mistake wasnt made.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I love Jimmy. I think we can win a superbowl with him easily. Can he make all the throws? No. Does he have issues with the deep ball? Yes. Does he have issues throwing to the sidelines? Yes.

Do I think he's the best qb we've had since young? Yes.

Agree with most of what you said. I think he likes to throw inside, but he doesn't have issues throwing to the sidelines. I think Jeff Garcia would have something to say about Jimmy G being the best qb we have since Steve Young. Jeff Garcia had like 3 very good seasons.

So far its Garcia, Kap, Jimmy. Jimmy needs to show more than 1 good season. Cus that's all hes played so far. Kap had a great season and a half, and then fell off.

as bad as I want Jimmy to be the next great, I can't argue with that.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The difference is, Jimmy didn't have that much pressure until the 4th quarter. Mahomes had it from the first drive. Without his ability to move around, Mahomes would have been sacked at least 10 times.

And until the 4th quarter Jimmy was 18/22......

Then went 3/9 and how many times has, "worst 4th quarter ever" been said about Jimmy?

That's. The. Point.

During your review, how many of the 22 do you feel the ball was thrown to the correct place?

Just curious because IMO, one of the biggest misses of the entire game was one of the 18 completed passes.

One check down short of a 1st down isn't going to make or break the SB, especially with how the final 10 minutes went. It could have

You'd also still be ignoring the other 17 completions. Did Brady not have a bad pass yesterday? not ignoring them nor did I say that about Brady

The OPI on Kittle was also a big difference in the game, but you dont bring that up. I didnt bring it up, but that doesn't mean I am ignoring it.

You're distracting from the point of pressure. You're saying that Jimmy wasn't pressured until the 4th so it doesn't absolve him, but everyone's point was that he's getting blamed for the 4th when the OL couldn't pass pro. I dont care what everyone's point was. My point is he left plays on the field even during the 18/22.

I really don't get why you can't admit that, maybe, juat maybe thr 4th quarter collapse wasn't on Jimmy. But that would take you admitting you've been wrong for the past year. feel like you are lumping me in with the group when I have never once said Jimmy was the only/single reason why there was a 4th quarter collapse.

I guess I am sorry I asked. Completely danced around my question.

No he didn't. He answered you logically and concisely. The problem being you have been wrong for the last year and do not want to admit it which has forced you out of the logical paradigm and into a world of negativity not buttressed by evidence and careful reason

No he didnt. I specifically asked him if there were any of the 22 attempts that he felt Jimmy went to the wrong place, and he started rambling on about other stuff.

Kittle OPI? Irrelevant to my question.

4th quarter pressure? Irrelevant to my question.

4th quarter collapse? Irrelevant to my question.

Him saying I have been wrong for a year? Irrelevant to my question.

Yes he did

Solid reply.

Ima have to side with the Con Jimmy team in this transaction instead of the Pro Jimmy team.

oh crap are they gonna put me in that team too now noooo!

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Ima have to side with the Con Jimmy team in this transaction instead of the Pro Jimmy team.

oh crap are they gonna put me in that team too now noooo!

"One of us! One of us!"

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Ima have to side with the Con Jimmy team in this transaction instead of the Pro Jimmy team.

oh crap are they gonna put me in that team too now noooo!

Your reply has been noted and filed appropriately

I still think there's potential for the upgrade to Jimmy, being Jimmy. He's still developing, still has loads of football ahead of him.

If he stays healthy and goes back to that dynamic guy he was when he came to us, sign me up.

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
I still think there's potential for the upgrade to Jimmy, being Jimmy. He's still developing, still has loads of football ahead of him.

If he stays healthy and goes back to that dynamic guy he was when he came to us, sign me up.

Yeah, I think we're all hoping for Jimmy to return to being that guy in '17 that was lights out.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
I still think there's potential for the upgrade to Jimmy, being Jimmy. He's still developing, still has loads of football ahead of him.

If he stays healthy and goes back to that dynamic guy he was when he came to us, sign me up.

Yeah, I think we're all hoping for Jimmy to return to being that guy in '17 that was lights out.

I would be happy with the 2019 Jimmy but with a few lessons learned and 2 years recovered from his ALC and the more strength and mobility he has with the knee. He will be balling this season!

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
I still think there's potential for the upgrade to Jimmy, being Jimmy. He's still developing, still has loads of football ahead of him.

If he stays healthy and goes back to that dynamic guy he was when he came to us, sign me up.

Yeah, I think we're all hoping for Jimmy to return to being that guy in '17 that was lights out.

I would be happy with the 2019 Jimmy but with a few lessons learned and 2 years recovered from his ALC and the more strength and mobility he has with the knee. He will be balling this season!

Originally posted by mayo49:
Yeah, I think we're all hoping for Jimmy to return to being that guy in '17 that was lights out.

Give him an Oline and he could come close to that. If they stick with Jimmy they need to put him in the best situation to succeed. And the best situation to stay healthy. Niners have 10 picks in this years draft and they should spend atleast 3 of them on the Oline including the #12 Pick. Re-sign Trent Williams and sign a center in free agency. All the picks should be spent on OLine,Dline, and the secondary.

Originally posted by JTB1974:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Yeah, I think we're all hoping for Jimmy to return to being that guy in '17 that was lights out.

Give him an Oline and he could come close to that. If they stick with Jimmy they need to put him in the best situation to succeed. And the best situation to stay healthy. Niners have 10 picks in this years draft and they should spend atleast 3 of them on the Oline including the #12 Pick. Re-sign Trent Williams and sign a center in free agency. All the picks should be spent on OLine,Dline, and the secondary.

I think you'd be surprised at how much a good Center will fix, sign Mack, draft a C/G prospect (Landon Dickerson & Quinn Meinerz are my favourites) stick them at RG and have them follow Mack around like a puppy. Great line this year and Mack's replacement on board.