QB CJ Beathard - signs with Jacksonville | Page 556

slowriot · 2017-04-28T20:36:13-07:00

"He processes the game so well, tough as s---. Got a chance. He reminds me a lot of Kirk Cousins" - head coach Kyle Shanahan HEIGHT: 6'2" WEIGHT: 219LBS. ARM LENGTH: 30 5/8" HANDS: 9 3/8" DRAFT ANALYSIS: "C.J. Beathard had mostly fifth-, sixth-round grades from the teams I spoke with. Obviously has great NFL lineage, the Beathard name famous for talent evaluation, and I thought his tape was down a little bit this year. I thought he was better as a junior. Very smart, understands where to go with the football, better arm than expected when you really sit down and study him. I haven't seen him live, and the people who went to his Pro Day told me he had an excellent day." -- Mike Mayock OVERVIEW A lot of people know that the Hawkeyes' signal caller is the grandson of former NFL general manager Bobby Beathard -- but now C.J. is a father in own right after he and his girlfriend welcomed a girl (Lyla) into their world in December. He was the most prolific quarterback in Tennessee his final two years of high school (runner-up for one of the state's Mr. Football awards). As a redshirt freshman, Beathard played a little (9-27, TD, two INT) and the following year he saw the field more often (nine games, one start, 645 yards, five TD, two INT). He was given the reins of the offense as a junior, earning team MVP and second-team All-Big Ten honors by completing 61.6 percent of his passes for 2,809 pass yards, 17 touchdowns and just five interceptions. Beathard wasn't as effective as a senior (56.5 completion pct, 1,929 yards, 147TD, 10 INT) but is still considered a solid developmental prospect. ANALYSIS STRENGTHS Played in pro-style passing attack, working under center and from shotgun. Capable and confident rolling out. Squares shoulders to deliver strikes. Completed 57 percent of his passes outside of the pocket at Iowa. Showed improved touch on short throws. Footwork and pocket mechanics look solid. Throws with some natural accuracy despite pedestrian completion percentage. Better tape in 2015 as he had to overcome injuries to key targets in 2016. Has the arm strength to throw the deep out without laboring. Trusts his line and keeps eyes downfield. Plays with relatively calm demeanor. Good feel and timing for screen game. Knee brace slowed him some during senior season, but he has ability to escape the heat. Team leader with ability to handle adversity. Won't take unnecessary chances. WEAKNESSES Hesitation is a noticeable issue. Often late to pull trigger on throws toward the sideline, forcing receivers into boundary and out of the catch. Slow field scanner who tends to lock into a single side. Too much eye-balling and not enough manipulating. Poor feel for pocket pressure. Two-year sack total of 58 is too high in play-action attack. Anchors deep in pocket and rarely climbs pocket to safe harbor. Oblivious to backside pressure until it's too late. Needs more air under the long ball. Deep-ball accuracy has been terrible. Completed under 30 percent of throws beyond 20 yards in last two seasons at Iowa. Completed just 43 percent of throws beyond line of scrimmage to right sideline. DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 6-7 NFL COMPARISON Tom Savage BOTTOM LINE Pro-style quarterback who dealt with nagging injuries to key pass catchers and himself in 2016. His 2015 tape was more impressive, but deep-ball accuracy issues, poor pocket awareness, and unnecessary hesitation as a passer shows up in both seasons. Beathard plays checkers with safeties rather than chess, which could always hinder his ability to attack down the field with success. Could be a career backup who finds himself in the action at some point down the road. -Lance Zierlein

Sep 2, 2019 at 5:31 PM

#8326

NCommand
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I'm probably way late to this party but this is shocking news to me.

Coach Kyle Shanahan informed the #49ers QBs on Friday that Nick Mullens won the backup job over C.J. Beathard to open the season.
— Matt Maiocco (@MaioccoNBCS) September 2, 2019

Sep 2, 2019 at 5:36 PM

#8327

wysiwyg
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Originally posted by NCommand:
I'm probably way late to this party but this is shocking news to me.

Coach Kyle Shanahan informed the #49ers QBs on Friday that Nick Mullens won the backup job over C.J. Beathard to open the season.
— Matt Maiocco (@MaioccoNBCS) September 2, 2019

Really

Sep 2, 2019 at 5:51 PM

#8328

blizzuntz
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Kyle : "I need to make him look good for 1 game so we can get something back for my piss poor decision "

Sep 2, 2019 at 6:03 PM

#8329

NCommand
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Originally posted by wysiwyg:
Originally posted by NCommand:
I'm probably way late to this party but this is shocking news to me.

Coach Kyle Shanahan informed the #49ers QBs on Friday that Nick Mullens won the backup job over C.J. Beathard to open the season.
— Matt Maiocco (@MaioccoNBCS) September 2, 2019

Really

LMAO. You picked up on my sarcasm well.

Sep 2, 2019 at 6:40 PM

#8330

BOI49er
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Comparing QB's on won-loss records when the sample size is small is worthless. This team was bad for the last 2 years and it wasn't all the fault of the QB's. Receivers were terrible for the most part and the defense was beyond bad. I agree with most of you that Mullens looks the best of the 2 backups but when comparing records you have to look at who the games were against, where they were played and if the opposing team was playing all their guys or resting some like they do at the end of the season. Even then, it's a small sample size. I repeat what I've said several times; none of our QB's including Jimmy has proven anything to me. I need to see at least a full season and maybe 2 before I'll be convinced of a guy's ability. Too many one year wonders in the NFL.

It's not about the record, and you don't have to do any of that stuff. Assuming adequate size, strength, and toughness, there is only one thing that separates NFL quarterbacks, and that is a quick mind. Reading defenses, going through progressions quickly, and decision making makes all the difference. If you are still slow with an adequate understanding of the offense, this is the one thing that is never going to get a lot better.

We haven't seen Mullens' ceiling. We have CJ's.

Sep 3, 2019 at 2:14 PM

#8331

Rsrkshn
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Originally posted by smithgdwg:

Originally posted by Rsrkshn:
Waste of a roster spot.
He's played enough to show conclusively that he is NEVER going to be a starting caliber QB in this league. And he's not a particularly good back-up either. Not demonstrably better than any number of QB's who've been waived.
Why would any team give up a draft pick for someone whose spot can be filled at no cost in draft capital?
Any draft choice for CJ would have been a good deal. Niners should have jumped on whatever Denver was offering. Instead of playing hardball and ending up with nothing.
It's this kind of stuff that

Maybe they don't trust JG durability.

True. But they would have to have a very low expectation there.
It certainly could be that they are unsure of JG's knee to the point that they might have to sit him for a few games, with the expectation of bringing him on later in the season. Then it makes sense as a kind of insurance policy.
The other aspect that I had not considered is that CJ might be a positive influence in the locker room. And the Niners don't want to disrupt the positive vibes by releasing a popular player. A lot of players seemed to have his back when he was the starter. It just might have tipped the odds in his favor if it was a borderline decision. We are not privy to all of their reasoning.

Sep 3, 2019 at 3:02 PM

#8332

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Originally posted by NinerGM:
Remember this 53 only has 8 OL. 8. Remember this as the season progresses as you see CJ with the clipboard.

It would be rare for a 9th OL on the roster to be active on gameday (in fact, often only 7 are active). If someone gets injured they can always elevate one of the PS guys or sign a free agent like one of the guys they worked out the last couple days.

[ Edited by captveg on Sep 3, 2019 at 3:03 PM ]

Sep 3, 2019 at 3:13 PM

#8333

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Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by cciowa:
he did nothing to earn a spot on this roster when we have glaring holes in other places... this was on kyles ego. he went up and got his boy and come hell or high water. cj stays.

Remember this 53 only has 8 OL. 8. Remember this as the season progresses as you see CJ with the clipboard.

Issue is that our FO is clueless. Nobody is giving up a 3rd or 4th or even a 5th for backup QB with little starter potential. Teams want back up vet QBs, or young QBs that they draft themselves so they know the playbook well.

And to get the Hoyers of the NFL, you dont need to trade a draft pick. There are plenty of FA vet QBs every year.

[ Edited by TheGore49er on Sep 3, 2019 at 3:14 PM ]

Sep 16, 2019 at 2:56 PM

#8334

GoldBrick
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I bet there are a few QB hungry teams out there sitting on a decent swing tackle...

Sep 16, 2019 at 2:57 PM

#8335

braap49er
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Originally posted by GoldBrick:
I bet there are a few QB hungry teams out there sitting on a decent swing tackle...

Ohhhh. Intriguing

Sep 16, 2019 at 6:23 PM

#8336

blizzuntz
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Originally posted by GoldBrick:
I bet there are a few QB hungry teams out there sitting on a decent swing tackle...

Or a couple teams who are trying to tank the season

Sep 16, 2019 at 6:24 PM

#8337

5thSFG
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Jets could use Beathard about now. I'd take a 4th for him

Sep 16, 2019 at 6:27 PM

#8338

DickNasty
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Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Jets could use Beathard about now. I'd take a 4th for him

Ive been sayin this since last week!

Sep 16, 2019 at 7:09 PM

#8339

titan
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Originally posted by DickNasty:
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Jets could use Beathard about now. I'd take a 4th for him

Ive been sayin this since last week!

Trade Jags Beathard for Ramsey.

Sep 16, 2019 at 8:09 PM

#8340

Dr_Bill_Walsh
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Destined to be a Steeler...