Robert Saleh - Head Coach - Tennessee Titans

Originally posted by Heroism:

That's not the first time he's called that, either. He was dialing it up against Denver as well. Nobody posted about it because Solly didn't get burned lol.

Something else I've noticed is that Saleh is trying to get creative with rush packages by having his edge players stand up in certain calls. I know what he's trying to do. I just don't know if that works in this defense. Kind of defeats the purpose of the wide 9.

From what I recall of that play, I think what that playcall is trying to accomplish is disrupt quick throws. It was a three man rush while dropping 8 into coverage. 5 in man coverage, 2 underneath robbers, 1 deep safety. Sounds like something Mangini would do.

Originally posted by thl408:
From what I recall of that play, I think what that playcall is trying to accomplish is disrupt quick throws. It was a three man rush while dropping 8 into coverage. 5 in man coverage, 2 underneath robbers, 1 deep safety. Sounds like something Mangini would do.

I was about to ask you what that call was. I thought it was cover 1 robber, but the 2 guys in the middle threw off. At first, I thought maybe 1 was a robber and 1 was a spy.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by thl408:
From what I recall of that play, I think what that playcall is trying to accomplish is disrupt quick throws. It was a three man rush while dropping 8 into coverage. 5 in man coverage, 2 underneath robbers, 1 deep safety. Sounds like something Mangini would do.

I was about to ask you what that call was. I thought it was cover 1 robber, but the 2 guys in the middle threw off. At first, I thought maybe 1 was a robber and 1 was a spy.

5 man front! 3-4 looking with Moore and Solly looking like 3-4OLBs.


Seems like Moore and Kwon playing zone (blues).

Originally posted by Joecool:

Still not confident this dude can outscheme a top end OC. Saleh's Entire philosophy is based on attacking. Better OC/HC will tip him apart.

Meh, as long as Saleh can get guys like Ford and Bosa, and acquire guys like Greenlaw, Warner, Buckner, he'll be a fine DC. Schemeing X's and O's are more for offense than defense.

What Fangio and Bellicheat are good at is moving people around in different fronts and coverages to hide their defensive intent, but that could be a simple as rotating and counter rotating the coverages, or making it look like man and going zone etc... (like those Robber coverages).

I think Saleh is making progress. If not, I don't think we'd have gotten Bosa, we'd have picked Quinnen Williams in the draft in my opinion.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Bwahaha.

"a great learning experience."

Thomas was even picked on the play. I'm sure he learned what we all have over Saleh's 2 years.

I still have zero faith in saleh.
He still talks up Ward as being "awesome"

Wish kyle would have moved on from him... I have a feeling his "scheming" is going to cost us some games.

Originally posted by thl408:
5 man front! 3-4 looking with Moore and Solly looking like 3-4OLBs.

I don't know what it is about an okie front(although that one looks more like a bear from that angle above), but it looks so cool to me lol. I like that Saleh is mixing it up!

Originally posted by thl408:

5 man front! 3-4 looking with Moore and Solly looking like 3-4OLBs.


Seems like Moore and Kwon playing zone (blues).

I don't know the exact play call obviously but I think the other LB behind/to the right of Kwon (maybe Warner?) should have gone to the sideline to cover the RB.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by thl408:
5 man front! 3-4 looking with Moore and Solly looking like 3-4OLBs.

I don't know what it is about an okie front(although that one looks more like a bear from that angle above), but it looks so cool to me lol. I like that Saleh is mixing it up!

Wide 9 to Bear 46? Wow!

Originally posted by NCommand:

Bwahaha.

"a great learning experience."

Thomas was even picked on the play. I'm sure he learned what we all have over Saleh's 2 years.

Saleh might be improving but something about this explanation doesn't inspire confidence in me.

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Bwahaha.

"a great learning experience."

Thomas was even picked on the play. I'm sure he learned what we all have over Saleh's 2 years.

Saleh might be improving but something about this explanation doesn't inspire confidence in me.

Ditto

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Bwahaha.

"a great learning experience."

Thomas was even picked on the play. I'm sure he learned what we all have over Saleh's 2 years.

Saleh might be improving but something about this explanation doesn't inspire confidence in me.

An edifying explanation of having solomon cover a RB in passing route....followed by " i am glad it happened" ....i am not glad it happened. Well, for a guy who Called the number of blitzes last yr you could count on one hand, he is getting more in the swing of things, but the learning curve? He's still learning.

Of course i want to see more blitzes this yr, and he has provided that. But allowing #94 to cover a RB ? Gotta work on that one. Still Saleh did allow that this was a learning experience...i assume he meant for himself. I wonder if saleh ever had much experience with blitzes. Or any?

Good news is he's trying and we saw a number of blitzes over the last 3 weeks, something absent last yr. And, no bosa nor DEE. So we have yet to know what happens when both Dee and Nicky B are there. Can't wait tho.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Bwahaha.

"a great learning experience."

Thomas was even picked on the play. I'm sure he learned what we all have over Saleh's 2 years.

Saleh might be improving but something about this explanation doesn't inspire confidence in me.

An edifying explanation of having solomon cover a RB in passing route....followed by " i am glad it happened" ....i am not glad it happened. Well, for a guy who Called the number of blitzes last yr you could count on one hand, he is getting more in the swing of things, but the learning curve? He's still learning.

Of course i want to see more blitzes this yr, and he has provided that. But allowing #94 to cover a RB ? Gotta work on that one. Still Saleh did allow that this was a learning experience...i assume he meant for himself. I wonder if saleh ever had much experience with blitzes. Or any?

Good news is he's trying and we saw a number of blitzes over the last 3 weeks, something absent last yr. And, no bosa nor DEE. So we have yet to know what happens when both Dee and Nicky B are there. Can't wait tho.

All I know is that when an OC comes in and his slogan are things like, "play fast", or "play big"...and when a DC comes in and his slogan are things like, violence, aggression, ...attack...

...neither of these guys are great at X's and O's. I won't be surprised if our Defense underperforms and Saleh is replaced in 2020.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Bwahaha.

"a great learning experience."

Thomas was even picked on the play. I'm sure he learned what we all have over Saleh's 2 years.

I am totally with you on this. The scheme is just mind boggling. The worst part is that he's trying to justify it. He even goes on to say something like, well the ends need to cover a back because we are rushing 5 or 6 other guys...The play clearly shows only 3 guys rushing. Seriously he should have just said, we experimented and got burned. We won't be doing too much of that or none at all.

Guys try to look beyond the playcall and the thinking behind it. It was 3rd and 3 so they thought KC was going to go with a quick pass. So they rush 3 because why rush 4 when the ball is coming out fast. Drop 2 underneath zone defenders while manning up vs the 5 route runners. So the idea behind the play design is take away the short, middle of the field. The problem is the personnel that was on the field - it should have been Ford on the RB, and Tartt in open space as a FS is always an adventure.

The takeaway for me is that they will be throwing out some exotic, unorthodox coverages on 3rd down, and to me that's a good thing. I feel you have to give good QBs different looks to make them think just a tick longer. Credit Mahomes for finding the obvious mismatch. It was bad, no sugar coating that, but I'm excited that the playbook is clearly bigger that it was in the past two years.

thl, what would you call that coverage?