Seattle Seahawks thread

Originally posted by tfer:
Bevell actually copied a bunch of the stuff that was installed for RG3 in his first year in Washington. But again, he's grown since then.

But what about the base offense that is mostly under center?

Nobody is running a full Redskins 2012 offense.

Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:

But what about the base offense that is mostly under center?

Nobody is running a full Redskins 2012 offense.

Not really. A couple years ago, it was very comparable. A lot of the same running looks that Bevell used with AP found themselves in Marshawn's hands. But since RW started to show his ability to escape pressure in mid '12, he shifted gears. First by copying the read option from Washington, then expanding on the scrambling drills. By the middle of the '13 season, it was unique from the Vikings.

Originally posted by tfer:

I also find it amazing, that no matter who the Hawks play, that team ALWAYS has a terrible defense...

RW is gonna be one of 3 guys in the running for league MVP. That's gonna sting, huh?

Tfer you are a joke. And everyone on this board sees that you are completely biased toward not only the Seahawks but especially Russell Wilson. Watch your mouth buddy because you have no rebuttals so far. All you do is try to put words in my mouth and make a fool of yourself. Point in case, you said it seems that any defense the Seahawks play is always terrible. That's your answer to this whole Rw argument? What A joke.

There is no cherry picking with me. This regular-season Russell Wilson has looked average at best. He has also done horrendous in the playoffs given his opposing defenses and his offensive play makers he has had to work with. He has had a few good games this year but in those few games his receivers have certainly bailed him out. Have YOU not been watching the Seahawks games. Did you see Jimmy Graham or Doug Baldwin? They were making those plays practically by themselves. From Baldwin getting separation to one arm catches to graham the number two or three tight end in the league. Baldwin is one of the best receivers at scoring touchdowns as evidenced by his 14 touchdowns last year. So what in the world are you talking about?

Another lie by you, I never said they would win less than 10 games.

Another lie by you, when did we ever say we would bet? Or you to even propose a bet?

And you claim in Seattle has had injuries? Really which season ending injuries to their great players have they had. Maybe they missed a few games here or there but it's nothing compared to a lot of other teams. It's a well-known fact that Seattle is extremely lucky on the injury front year in and year out.

Finally you claiming I don't watch Seattle Seahawks regular-season games. You are wrong again. I have watched every single game of the 49ers and the Seattle Seahawks. I also watch the Kansas city Chiefs games.

It must suck to be wrong so much and a complete liar. Your posts are so foolish so stop with this crap and stop mentioning me and just talk about Russell Wilson and how much you love him. Also it would help for you to debunk any of my statements. Which you can't.

Also a sidenote, when Seattle Seahawks defense has allowed 24 or more points Russell Wilson cannot come back. He is not that quarterback. Now if you are counting the Atlanta game where the refs gave the game to the Seahawks, that does not count. Now if you are counting the Buffalo game where they allowed 25 points, that should not count as well. Buffalo would've won most likely with those outrageous calls or non calls by the refs. Major screwup's on officiating that have given Seattle two more wins and in your opinion Russell Wilson two more wins.

The truth is Russell Wilson has regressed this year. Cam Newton has also regressed this year. I can call them like I see them nobody is here. I don't like cam Newton but I can admit he had an awesome year last year and progressed in his passing. But that is not the case this year for either quarterback

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If Wilson threw for 398 with the likes of Draughn, Harris, McDonald, Torrey, would we ever hear the end of his Hall of Fame enshrinement?

Originally posted by tfer:

Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
But what about the base offense that is mostly under center?

Nobody is running a full Redskins 2012 offense.

Not really. A couple years ago, it was very comparable. A lot of the same running looks that Bevell used with AP found themselves in Marshawn's hands. But since RW started to show his ability to escape pressure in mid '12, he shifted gears. First by copying the read option from Washington, then expanding on the scrambling drills. By the middle of the '13 season, it was unique from the Vikings.

Pocket mobility of a QB shouldn't be that big of a deal. The Niners offense from beginning in 2011 to 2014 did not change so drastically despite change of QBs and offensive weapons.

Maybe that's why Harvin contributed nothing? Or maybe that was Wilson's fault?

Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
An honest question to Hawk fans:

Is Bevell's offense largely the same as it was in Minnesota?

I ask because his time there mirrors Rod Marinelli's time with the Lions & Bears.....and that NFC North experience wasn't lost on Marinelli in his last two matchups against the Seahawks offense.

For a defense that's not considered very good, it has done very well against Seattle in the last two meetings.

That's a very interesting question, and one I've never really thought about. I'm certainly no expert on the subject but I don't think that the structure of the offense is much like the Vikings when Bevell was there. Even though Carroll is a defensive coach by training, I believe he has a greater hand in how the offense operates than is generally thought. He prefers a physical running game, play action and chunk plays as how things should be done. Then in 2012 when the offense was struggling, they studied and incorporated some of what they saw the Redskins doing with RG3 and still employ elements of that in their run game (at least when Wilson can move around). Now throw in Cable, who has a large say in the design of the running game. If I am correct, Bevell has his roots in the west coast system, which is a little different again. To me, it seems like the present Seahawk system is a melding of the 3 different approaches. What makes me think you are on to something with Marinelli is that Bevell may have some different concepts he is working with but as a play caller I'm sure he has tendencies and "go to" plays that he pulls out under pressure and as somebody who faced him often, Marinelli likely knows his tendencies very well. For example, you can dress up a play any way you want, but if your tendency is to throw a bubble screen on 3rd and 6 when the defense shows blitz, a sharp DC will likely pick up on that tendency and take advantage of it.

Originally posted by elguapo:


So are any of the Russell Wilson supporters going to admit he has regressed this year?

Not this one! The team is 7-2-1 with an offensive line that only a mother could love and a run game that didn't even exist until about 2 weeks ago. I can assure you I am one Seahawks fan who is very happy with the play at QB this year. My preseason thought was that they would be lucky to get out of the first half of the season at 4-4 because of the inexperience on the offensive line and how many rookies they were carrying for depth (15 I believe). I also thought they would have their usual second half surge and likely get a wild card. And one of the luxuries of a good defense is the knowledge that its better to take a sack and punt than to throw a low percentage pass that has a good chance of being picked off. Only 2 interceptions on the year and a sack rate that is 30% less than last year at this time sounds like great decision making in my opinion. But to each their own.

They are a Top caliber playoff team and we aren't!

I hate to admit it but that's the truth.

They are starting to peak at the right time and getting guys back who were injured.

IMO, it will come down to them and the Cowboys for the NFC champs.

Damned either way.

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:

They are a Top caliber playoff team and we aren't!

I hate to admit it but that's the truth.

They are starting to peak at the right time and getting guys back who were injured.

IMO, it will come down to them and the Cowboys for the NFC champs.

Damned either way.

Agree, Seahawks or Dallas in the Super bowl. Are there any other good teams in the NFC? Possibly the Giants. But all in all, it looks like a cake walk for Seattle and Dallas.

Hey guys check this out...no surprise..but Cawk fans since 2012 :P

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/eastside/hawk-house-goes-dark-seahawks-themed-christmas-light-show-too-much-for-quiet-kirkland-neighborhood/

Originally posted by fortyninerglory:
Hey guys check this out...no surprise..but Cawk fans since 2012 :P

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/eastside/hawk-house-goes-dark-seahawks-themed-christmas-light-show-too-much-for-quiet-kirkland-neighborhood/

The article says nothing about them being fans since 2012.

The big red arrow...
And the slide show said he started putting them up in 2012.
Lol. A true 1-2 fan.

Originally posted by trooper49:

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
They are a Top caliber playoff team and we aren't!

I hate to admit it but that's the truth.

They are starting to peak at the right time and getting guys back who were injured.

IMO, it will come down to them and the Cowboys for the NFC champs.

Damned either way.

Agree, Seahawks or Dallas in the Super bowl. Are there any other good teams in the NFC? Possibly the Giants. But all in all, it looks like a cake walk for Seattle and Dallas.

Some team may surprise but those two are really pulling away from the pack.

Originally posted by Morgan49:
The big red arrow...
And the slide show said he started putting them up in 2012.
Lol. A true 1-2 fan.

Haha. I'm sure the arrow shows the date of which the photo was taken.
Slide show says nothing about them being fans from 2012.
Read the article.
Been lighting up things for years.
I'm guessing GloryFortyNine had a bored moment,