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Jacksonville Jaguar Arik Armstead-DT Thread
Jun 17, 2017 at 7:49 AM
- mayo49
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Wow, AA looks like a legit LEO.
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Jun 17, 2017 at 12:29 PM
- Willisfn4life
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Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by Willisfn4life:Man, Armstead looks much slimmer now. Does anyone have his current weight?
He was 290 and reported that he lost up to 15 so I'm guessing around 275-280ish....if he can get to around 270 that might be the sweet spot for him, without losing a ton of power.
Appreciate that. Both he and Buckner look to be in excellent physical condition, but for different reasons.
Jun 17, 2017 at 1:21 PM
- Heroism
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Now that he's recomped his body, AA should watch Carlos Dunlap tape and take notes. They have comparable builds, and Dunlap is one of the better edge rushers in the league.
[ Edited by Heroism on Jun 17, 2017 at 1:24 PM ]
Jun 17, 2017 at 1:53 PM
- SmokeCrabtrees
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Originally posted by NCommand:Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by Willisfn4life:Man, Armstead looks much slimmer now. Does anyone have his current weight?
He was 290 and reported that he lost up to 15 so I'm guessing around 275-280ish....if he can get to around 270 that might be the sweet spot for him, without losing a ton of power.
Yeah, his legs look much bigger and defined more with the upper body leaner probably for quickness. It looks like he's done a ton of cardio.
Some people think just cause you look solid/good carrying extra weight/muscle mass that it's supposed to be natural when it's not. This looks more natural to me and it's obvious. He played basketball for a reason, he was forced to get up 290 to make millions and play within Chips 3-4. Now Buckner obviously you can tell WAS AND IS meant to carry 300 lbs. as Hero pointed out just look at his hands.
Originally posted by Heroism:Now that he's recomped his body, AA should watch Carlos Dunlap tape and take notes. They have comparable builds, and Dunlap is one of the better edge rushers in the league.
Nice name drop comparison.
[ Edited by SmokeCrabtrees on Jun 17, 2017 at 1:53 PM ]
Jun 17, 2017 at 1:57 PM
- saniner
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Originally posted by Heroism:AA and Defo definitely don't play the same position anymore. LolDefo is beyond massive. Look at the size of his hands. Those have to be the biggest paws in the NFL.
Dial looks small compared to Buck and Armstead
And that's at 6'5" 320lbs
Jun 17, 2017 at 2:08 PM
- SmokeCrabtrees
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Originally posted by saniner:Originally posted by Heroism:AA and Defo definitely don't play the same position anymore. Lol
Dial looks small compared to Buck and Armstead
And that's at 6'5" 320lbs
Looks good to me to play that 1T role
Jun 17, 2017 at 2:48 PM
- 49erphan
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I wonder if AA's interior pass rushing will suffer from the loss of some muscle weight. I suppose with the right strength conditioning routine and another year of shedding boy strength for man strength, he might be able to keep his strength near where it was. But even bulk alone is helpful when wrestling with a strong, talented o-lineman.
Jun 17, 2017 at 3:04 PM
- SmokeCrabtrees
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Originally posted by 49erphan:I wonder if AA's interior pass rushing will suffer from the loss of some muscle weight. I suppose with the right strength conditioning routine and another year of shedding boy strength for man strength, he might be able to keep his strength near where it was. But even bulk alone is helpful when wrestling with a strong, talented o-lineman.
He'll be more explosive now with a better power/weight ratio so I think he'll be just fine and can compensate for a lil less size.
Overall surrounding talent should help too, edge rushers gotta do their jobs. Sounds cliche but several things lead to DL success.
[ Edited by SmokeCrabtrees on Jun 17, 2017 at 3:05 PM ]
Jun 17, 2017 at 3:17 PM
- Heroism
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Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Smoke, you called AA recomping his body months ago, so props to you. I give credit when its due.
Jun 17, 2017 at 3:39 PM
- NinerSickness
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Originally posted by jcs:
Our slow 6-7 280lb DE is going to learn from our quick 6-0 pass rush specialist?
I wouldn't call AA slow. In fact, his biggest problem hasn't been speed; it's been leverage & core strength (which is surprising, given his size).
Jun 17, 2017 at 4:26 PM
- SmokeCrabtrees
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Originally posted by Heroism:Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Smoke, you called AA recomping his body months ago, so props to you. I give credit when its due.
Was quite obvious to me lol. No credit needed. I used to weigh 255, now im 185 and some say im pretty decently jacked so ive had a lil experience and the eagle eye lol.
When i had my bulging disc surgery i lost 20 lbs of muscle within 2-3 months. Atleast Arik was hitting up legs like no other and carrying weight more natural for him. Hell be damn near close to his old strength come week 1 .
Jun 17, 2017 at 5:01 PM
- jcs
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Originally posted by NinerSickness:5.1 40 1.76 10 yard split, 3 Cone 7.57 SS 4.53 these numbers are more comparable to an athletic OT not a Pass rushing Leo.
Originally posted by jcs:
Our slow 6-7 280lb DE is going to learn from our quick 6-0 pass rush specialist?
I wouldn't call AA slow. In fact, his biggest problem hasn't been speed; it's been leverage & core strength (which is surprising, given his size).
I agree with leverage but also extension. Hard to get away from a blocker when you can't separate.
https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/2/22/8088037/nfl-combine-2015-full-results-defensive-linemen-vic-beasley
Jun 17, 2017 at 5:46 PM
- MRNINESEVEN
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Originally posted by Heroism:AA and Defo definitely don't play the same position anymore. Lol
Lol AA is all neck!!
Jun 17, 2017 at 5:55 PM
- NCommand
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Originally posted by wailers15:Originally posted by Heroism:AA and Defo definitely don't play the same position anymore. Lol
Lol AA is all neck!!
And his chick is all ass.
Jun 18, 2017 at 1:40 AM
- AUniner
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Pretty excited for this dude this year. No one really knows what to expect and thats pretty exciting