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Jacksonville Jaguar Arik Armstead-DT Thread

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Oct 19, 2020 at 12:05 PM
He's not great at pass rushing and not great at run defending but is paid like an All Pro.
[ Edited by Young2Rice on Oct 19, 2020 at 12:05 PM ]
Oct 19, 2020 at 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by 9erReign:
Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by susweel:
That's probably the only play he made all game. Mr invisible for 17 million a year.

2 plays at 17 mill a year is still better than no plays from a 135 million dollar superstar.

Yeah like he does that every game.

All that cash and he fails to show up in prime time against a division rival.

That quitter embarrassed himself.

You want to talk about a lot of cash and then not showing up. Armstead basically just robbing Jed.

2020 stats
Armstead: 1.5 sacks, 9 tackles, 2 tackles for loss, 9 QB hits (4 games with 0)
Donald: 7.5 sacks, 11 tackles, 6 tackles for loss, 14 QB hits (no games with 0), 2 forced fumbles

Failed to show when they needed him. They should go ahead and trade him before the deadline because they can't risk him not showing up in another prime time game and they have 2 big post bye week prime time games.
Oct 19, 2020 at 12:08 PM
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Originally posted by SlowDownBoy:
AA was the 3rd highest rated defender behind Verrett and Ward at 70%.

Quietly had a good game but people only see eye popping stats

I found be a couple highlights that are on the previous page that showed him making plays. His coverage skills last night put Witherspoon to shame
Oct 19, 2020 at 12:09 PM
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Kerrigan might be too expensive, I say we spend less and try to pick up Maxx Crosby. Gruden owes Kyle

Crosby? Why would Oakland trade him after only a yr? Not really realistic imo
Oct 19, 2020 at 12:11 PM
Originally posted by 9erReign:
You want to talk about a lot of cash and then not showing up. Armstead basically just robbing Jed.

2020 stats
Armstead: 1.5 sacks, 9 tackles, 2 tackles for loss, 9 QB hits (4 games with 0)
Donald: 7.5 sacks, 11 tackles, 6 tackles for loss, 14 QB hits (no games with 0), 2 forced fumbles

Ahhh why you comping him to Donald?

Also he's been playing out of position all yr. he should be inside next to Kin on passing downs while bosa/Ford are ripping off the edge. He's not a true DE but has had to be.
Oct 19, 2020 at 12:16 PM
Originally posted by elguapo:

I think this move needs to be made especially if we cannot rely on Ford or we may not be with for next year

Then again since we already are without power third round pick next year there's no way we trade for a guy like this unless he comes really really cheap in terms of draft compensation which he won't. So I think this won't happen. It really sucks because I don't want to spend more draft capital on an edge rusher when we need to invest it in the offensive line or secondary

Edge rush is what makes the defense go. They will either invest in it again during the draft or find a way to spend some cash on it soon. Guys have to realize and accept it.

As far as Kerrigan goes, I have no idea what DC could get realistically. I'd give up a 4th and swap 5ths (we should be getting a comp 5th for Sanders correct?) if he plays well resign him to a Sherman type deal.
Oct 19, 2020 at 12:18 PM
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
He's not great at pass rushing and not great at run defending but is paid like an All Pro.

Simply not true. He's not a DE and yet has had to play one this year.

I have no idea how you can say he's not good at defending the run overall either.
Oct 19, 2020 at 12:21 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
He's not great at pass rushing and not great at run defending but is paid like an All Pro.

Simply not true. He's not a DE and yet has had to play one this year.

I have no idea how you can say he's not good at defending the run overall either.

I said he's not great. He is being paid to be great. And he is not playing great. Hyder Jr is playing great for comparison.
[ Edited by Young2Rice on Oct 19, 2020 at 12:22 PM ]
Oct 19, 2020 at 12:41 PM
I could have sworn Hyder was being double teamed last night and Armstead was not. That is crazy that more respect is given to Hyder than Armstead.
Oct 19, 2020 at 2:16 PM
Originally posted by FranchisePoster:
I could have sworn Hyder was being double teamed last night and Armstead was not. That is crazy that more respect is given to Hyder than Armstead.

I mean if we're being honest I think 80% of the starting QB's in this league have enough speed to get away from armstead. Double the edge rusher across from armstead then run around AA if he beats his 1 on 1. Cardinals and giants both took advantage of AA either rushing straight upfield or failing to set the edge.
Oct 19, 2020 at 2:18 PM
Originally posted by FranchisePoster:
I could have sworn Hyder was being double teamed last night and Armstead was not. That is crazy that more respect is given to Hyder than Armstead.

Hyder has played even better than AA this year, surprisingly. So it makes sense. Hyder's hustle is great and he almost had another sack that slipped out of his fingers.
Oct 19, 2020 at 2:25 PM
Originally posted by 49ERnation:
I mean if we're being honest I think 80% of the starting QB's in this league have enough speed to get away from armstead. Double the edge rusher across from armstead then run around AA if he beats his 1 on 1. Cardinals and giants both took advantage of AA either rushing straight upfield or failing to set the edge.

I would hope so. AA only ran a 5.1 forty. Even Jimmy ran faster than that and is probably around that 5.1 after his knee surgery. I can't think of any QB that ran slower than 5.0.
Oct 19, 2020 at 3:14 PM
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He's having himself a nice season overall. Stop looking at the stats box.
Oct 19, 2020 at 3:20 PM
Originally posted by Thanos89:
Armstead is one of the zones whipping boys lol. He's a good player, yeah he's not a double digit sack guy, but he's a key part of our defense.
I would really appreciate that he tries it hard instead of jogging to the point of action. Buckner was chasing the "kettle" down until the whistle!
Oct 19, 2020 at 6:28 PM
Does he even have a sack this year?
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