Eric Mangini Thread

if the alternative was Billy Davis I can live with standing pat.

Originally posted by Hopper:
if the alternative was Billy Davis I can live with standing pat.

The possibility of Davis scares the hell of a lot of people. Essentially you get a Nolan defense but not as good. Or has Davis changed and improved since...

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Trath44:
Reports say Mangini will stay on as DC. If I were in Chip's shoes I'd keep Mangini rather than trying to find a new DC at this point. The change can be disruptive. Give him a 2nd year with the defense. Mangini is a really experienced and knowledeable guy.

Agree, bring him back.

If not MANGINI who?

Doesn't seem to be a lot out there

Mike Pettine, he's well versed in the 3-4 and 4-3, had top 10 defenses with both.

I agree that bringing him back makes sense, if for no other reason than continuity. A new offense, and a new defense? One or the other is hard enough. Not to mention that Mangini has some level of knowledge of the offensive players from his time during his "crossover" as tight ends coach and offensive assistant consultant. There is something to be said for the team having a familiar face on the coaching staff at that level. the defensive players seem to be ok with Mangini in general too. I wasn't enamored of his units overall play last year, especially a couple of games where he just left a star opponent uncovered, knowing he was the opponents "go to" guy, but there aren't a lot of proven DC's out there looking for a job, LOL.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Trath44:
Reports say Mangini will stay on as DC. If I were in Chip's shoes I'd keep Mangini rather than trying to find a new DC at this point. The change can be disruptive. Give him a 2nd year with the defense. Mangini is a really experienced and knowledeable guy.

Agree, bring him back.

If not MANGINI who?

Doesn't seem to be a lot out there

Mike Pettine, he's well versed in the 3-4 and 4-3, had top 10 defenses with both.

yup. would love go get Pettine to coach our defense. dude's intense and has a good scheme.

Originally posted by TheHYDE49er:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Trath44:

Reports say Mangini will stay on as DC. If I were in Chip's shoes I'd keep Mangini rather than trying to find a new DC at this point. The change can be disruptive. Give him a 2nd year with the defense. Mangini is a really experienced and knowledeable guy.

Agree, bring him back.

If not MANGINI who?

Doesn't seem to be a lot out there

Mike Pettine, he's well versed in the 3-4 and 4-3, had top 10 defenses with both.

yup. would love go get Pettine to coach our defense. dude's intense and has a good scheme.

I think Petine got a raw deal in Cleveland, and will probably get another shot sometime soon. Kind of like Hue and Norv in Oakland. Therefore, for continuity sake, which is important for a young rebuilding roster, I think I'd rather have Mangini, or someone else who probably won't get another HC gig anytime soon.

Originally posted by Trath44:
Reports say Mangini will stay on as DC. If I were in Chip's shoes I'd keep Mangini rather than trying to find a new DC at this point. The change can be disruptive. Give him a 2nd year with the defense. Mangini is a really experienced and knowledeable guy.

I think Mangini is as good a choice as anybody else for the DC spot. His previous work as a DC in addition to what he was able to do with the ragtag 49ers this past season is noteworthy. Add to that his previous head coaching experience and you have a fully qualified guy. Then you add, as you've suggested, the fact he'd bring some measure of continuity and it certainly can't hurt. The question I think will be of personalities and philosophies, do they match?

Originally posted by mojave45:
I agree that bringing him back makes sense, if for no other reason than continuity. A new offense, and a new defense? One or the other is hard enough. Not to mention that Mangini has some level of knowledge of the offensive players from his time during his "crossover" as tight ends coach and offensive assistant consultant. There is something to be said for the team having a familiar face on the coaching staff at that level. the defensive players seem to be ok with Mangini in general too. I wasn't enamored of his units overall play last year, especially a couple of games where he just left a star opponent uncovered, knowing he was the opponents "go to" guy, but there aren't a lot of proven DC's out there looking for a job, LOL.

continuity was the same reasoning they used to make whats his face the head coach

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
"Baalke said he won't promote in-house this time"

he did mean the head coach i think

I thought we were gutting the staff.

This isn't good.

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
I thought we were gutting the staff.

This isn't good.

No good coaches with choices want to work here.

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

I thought we were gutting the staff.

This isn't good.

No good coaches with choices want to work here.

Lol

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
I thought we were gutting the staff.

This isn't good.

No good coaches with choices want to work here.

i think we will have much better coaches than last year. mangini represents everything that is or was wrong with us last year in my opinion. the whole f**king staff should have been gutted and swept away in the delousing station of nfl history

im cool with him as DC

if our offense can score on the road and let the defense relax a little we could be fine

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
I thought we were gutting the staff.

This isn't good.

No good coaches with choices want to work here.

i think we will have much better coaches than last year. mangini represents everything that is or was wrong with us last year in my opinion. the whole f**king staff should have been gutted and swept away in the delousing station of nfl history

yah Im with you cc I want everybody gone, not only that I want them tarred and feathered on the way out of town.