RB Carlos Hyde Thread

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Dem teeth.

Originally posted by 49erphan:

I don't think the argument for trading Hyde is a weak or outright wrong - the team could probably get a fairly high draft pick for him which could be a big deal - but he has played well enough that I think it's worth seeing if he can be really productive in Shanahan's offense. I can see him having the potential to be a big contributor for at least a few years even as a part of a rotation. As others have said, though, his health is always a wildcard.

Who gives up a high pick for a guy in his last yr in his contract and is a RB?

Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:

And yet we have no idea if any of the other RBs on this roster can stay healthy either....

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erphan:

I don't think the argument for trading Hyde is a weak or outright wrong - the team could probably get a fairly high draft pick for him which could be a big deal - but he has played well enough that I think it's worth seeing if he can be really productive in Shanahan's offense. I can see him having the potential to be a big contributor for at least a few years even as a part of a rotation. As others have said, though, his health is always a wildcard.

Who gives up a high pick for a guy in his last yr in his contract and is a RB?

Pretty much bottom line lol. You're better off riding his Butt till the wheels fall off for all I care lol.. Shanny don't do that doe.

Posted on another thread:

I was in the same place about trading Hyde in that he's our best RB, but then I started thinking more long term. We're two to three seasons away from being competitive, Hyde will be 27 in September this year, so if we do re-sign him he will be close to 30 by the time we are competitive for play-offs and championships if it all goes to plan. He'll be a FA at the end of the season and basically has one shot at a big deal, we also have the concerns about his durability.

It hurts me to say it, but I think we should be rolling with youth now and see if we can get a pick for him before the season starts, that way we don't need to worry about giving up a compensatory pick by being active in FA.

Originally posted by Buchy:

Posted on another thread:

I was in the same place about trading Hyde in that he's our best RB, but then I started thinking more long term. We're two to three seasons away from being competitive, Hyde will be 27 in September this year, so if we do re-sign him he will be close to 30 by the time we are competitive for play-offs and championships if it all goes to plan. He'll be a FA at the end of the season and basically has one shot at a big deal, we also have the concerns about his durability.

It hurts me to say it, but I think we should be rolling with youth now and see if we can get a pick for him before the season starts, that way we don't need to worry about giving up a compensatory pick by being active in FA.

I don't get it?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:

And yet we have no idea if any of the other RBs on this roster can stay healthy either....

The unknown in this sense may be better than what is known... Hyde can't stay healthy

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

Originally posted by Buchy:
Posted on another thread:

I was in the same place about trading Hyde in that he's our best RB, but then I started thinking more long term. We're two to three seasons away from being competitive, Hyde will be 27 in September this year, so if we do re-sign him he will be close to 30 by the time we are competitive for play-offs and championships if it all goes to plan. He'll be a FA at the end of the season and basically has one shot at a big deal, we also have the concerns about his durability.

It hurts me to say it, but I think we should be rolling with youth now and see if we can get a pick for him before the season starts, that way we don't need to worry about giving up a compensatory pick by being active in FA.

I don't get it?

Sorry, got caught up in my thoughts - one of the other posters was saying to take this years production and then let him go and we'd get a compensatory pick next year unless we were too active in FA.

Originally posted by Buchy:

Posted on another thread:

I was in the same place about trading Hyde in that he's our best RB, but then I started thinking more long term. We're two to three seasons away from being competitive, Hyde will be 27 in September this year, so if we do re-sign him he will be close to 30 by the time we are competitive for play-offs and championships if it all goes to plan. He'll be a FA at the end of the season and basically has one shot at a big deal, we also have the concerns about his durability.

It hurts me to say it, but I think we should be rolling with youth now and see if we can get a pick for him before the season starts, that way we don't need to worry about giving up a compensatory pick by being active in FA.

Disagree so much on all of this. 27 is old now....wtf.

And the youth is a 4th rd pick that showed up to camp over weight and already retired in college plus a UDFA.

You play him this yr and see what you have. Period.

Originally posted by jcs:

The unknown in this sense may be better than what is known... Hyde can't stay healthy

The unknown already retired while in college. The known ran for nearly 5 yards a carry behind one of the worst run blocking lines in football and ranked as one of the most productive backs in football.


Gonna side with the known and bet on Hyde being healthy over Williams turning out to be some undercover superstar.

Originally posted by jcs:

The unknown in this sense may be better than what is known... Hyde can't stay healthy

Maybe an improved system or OL can help that no? He got hurt most of the time at or behind the line of scrimmage. We had one of the most predictable offenses the past two yrs.

Go look at ATLs attempt breakdown...Hyde had 217 attempts last yr freeman had 227, give him the same amount of carries (over 16 game season) and he's putting damn near the same stats up.... Give Williams Coleman's attempts (115) and we're looking at a top 5-10 rushing team imo.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by jcs:

The unknown in this sense may be better than what is known... Hyde can't stay healthy

The unknown already retired while in college. The known ran for nearly 5 yards a carry behind one of the worst run blocking lines in football and ranked as one of the most productive backs in football.


Gonna side with the known and bet on Hyde being healthy over Williams turning out to be some undercover superstar.

Yup agreed

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by jcs:

The unknown in this sense may be better than what is known... Hyde can't stay healthy

The unknown already retired while in college. The known ran for nearly 5 yards a carry behind one of the worst run blocking lines in football and ranked as one of the most productive backs in football.


Gonna side with the known and bet on Hyde being healthy over Williams turning out to be some undercover superstar.

I already agreed with PHX earlier with "finally a very good OL, a great play caller as HC(D's don't know if run or pass is coming), less physical blows if Juice leads him thru holes, and finally if williams gets snaps(and that is the plan), Hyde doesn't get tired out ...hence injured more easily," thus resulting in a great yr for Carlos.

This team was either devoid of talent at key positions or unrealized d/t injuries, poor coaching, scheme, and a host of other reasons. We're in NO position to be getting rid of talent. Fans thinking we should go Madden here and trade Garnett, Hyde, McDonald, Bowman, M.Smith, etc. need to chill.

Rarely ever are you going to get a valuable commodity in a trade...maybe 5th-7th rounders which teams reserve for special teams.

The McDonald scenario is an examples of that. Every pro personnel department is constantly inquiring about potential trades, cuts and value of their own players. We just don't usually hear about it. But that's their job...literally.

Ultimately, our FO assessed his value and decided to keep him since they didn't like any of the offers put forth. So what's changed since then? Nothing.

We're in no position at this juncture to be getting rid of talent...next year, if Williams or Kittle elevate above the current levels of Hyde and McDonald, then you look to move them and esp. if you can establish equally quality depth behind them.

But right now, in any fashion, a Hyde+Williams (Hightower, Bibbs and Breida) and McDonald+Kittle (Paulsen and Hulikini) is a nice luxury to have in year 1 of the ShanaLynch era.