RB Carlos Hyde Thread

If Hyde can put together a nice year, and stay healthy I see him as the RB of our future. He's got nice intangibles, and he's still somewhat fresh in the league. Of course Shan's system appears to need two backs, but my problem with the Fournette pick is that it seems too much like a replacement. I'm hoping we don't replace Hyde this year, but just compliment him with a nice 1-2 punch.. I just want one fully healthy season and I'm hoping that a better OL, the system, and a compliment back can help Hyde. I think Loso Hyde can fit nicely in Shan's offense. I'm still on the Hyde train and hope we don't draft Fournette at 2 and derail it.

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Sounds sexy but no way... The Shanahans won't invest a top first round pick on a RB. Only way it happens if if we trade back up and make a move into say 29-31 to get a fifth year option,and give the fan base a boner with Christian McAffrey lol.

We don't know what they think. If they consider him a once in a generation type back, they might not be able to pass him up. If Hyde had proven that he could stay healthy it might be a different story, but two great backs is not a bad option and might keep them both healthy, but it may not be a luxury they can afford with so many other holes.

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

Sounds sexy but no way... The Shanahans won't invest a top first round pick on a RB. Only way it happens if if we trade back up and make a move into say 29-31 to get a fifth year option,and give the fan base a boner with Christian McAffrey lol.

Nobody knows what Shanahan is thinking except Shanahan

Originally posted by Bluesbro:

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Sounds sexy but no way... The Shanahans won't invest a top first round pick on a RB. Only way it happens if if we trade back up and make a move into say 29-31 to get a fifth year option,and give the fan base a boner with Christian McAffrey lol.

We don't know what they think. If they consider him a once in a generation type back, they might not be able to pass him up. If Hyde had proven that he could stay healthy it might be a different story, but two great backs is not a bad option and might keep them both healthy, but it may not be a luxury they can afford with so many other holes.

He and his father have been able to plug in mid to late round RB's into this system and find great success for close to two decades. I think we'll see him land a system fit day three in this draft.

Originally posted by 49erInTheMidwest:
If Hyde can put together a nice year, and stay healthy I see him as the RB of our future. He's got nice intangibles, and he's still somewhat fresh in the league.

nah bro, Hyde has maybe 2-4 years left as a starter. if that.

i think he only gets one chance left and this is a prove it year for the organization and to Kyle. if he's not a stud early, he is done as a starter in this league.

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by Lobo49er:
Please stay healthy this year.

I have a feeling his time might be up at the end of this season when his rookie contract expires. I think we may replace him with Fournette.

Sounds sexy but no way... The Shanahans won't invest a top first round pick on a RB. Only way it happens if if we trade back up and make a move into say 29-31 to get a fifth year option,and give the fan base a boner with Christian McAffrey lol.

McCaffrey? He is OK, but he can't replace Hyde. McCaffrey is a jack of all trades type back, but I don't see him as a bell cow 3-down back in the NFL.

Not only is Fournette a franchise bell cow 3-down back, he is an upgrade from Hyde.

Originally posted by 49erInTheMidwest:
If Hyde can put together a nice year, and stay healthy I see him as the RB of our future. He's got nice intangibles, and he's still somewhat fresh in the league. Of course Shan's system appears to need two backs, but my problem with the Fournette pick is that it seems too much like a replacement. I'm hoping we don't replace Hyde this year, but just compliment him with a nice 1-2 punch.. I just want one fully healthy season and I'm hoping that a better OL, the system, and a compliment back can help Hyde. I think Loso Hyde can fit nicely in Shan's offense. I'm still on the Hyde train and hope we don't draft Fournette at 2 and derail it.

We don't have to replace him this season unless that is you want to trade him and get something back.

Hyde's rookie contract only expires at the end of this coming season. But, the chances are Fournette will replace him. The No.2 drafted rookie pay scale is pretty high plus you will have to pay Hyde the big contract come next year.

Originally posted by jcs:
Our run game was ranked #4 in the league our defense was ranked #32. We spent brought in a lot more offense in F/A than defense. Why would we spend #2 on a RB?

That 4th ranked run game last season was misleading, it was yards that didn't come to much. We had to run the ball that much when we couldn't pass.

Plus, there are a million and one ways to rebuild a team. Who is to say we must spread our ammo evenly and arguably too thinly across all positions in one go? Can we therefore not focus on the offense first?

Also, I have looked at the defensive players in the draft, it is very deep. But, at the top of the 1st round, many prospects already have issues such as Allen (arthritic shoulders), Foster (attitude), Thomas (3-4), etc. That to me pretty much just leaves Adams and Hooker and I really don't like the idea of taking a safety at 2.

Originally posted by Kuya:

Originally posted by 49erInTheMidwest:

If Hyde can put together a nice year, and stay healthy I see him as the RB of our future. He's got nice intangibles, and he's still somewhat fresh in the league.

nah bro, Hyde has maybe 2-4 years left as a starter. if that.

i think he only gets one chance left and this is a prove it year for the organization and to Kyle. if he's not a stud early, he is done as a starter in this league.

Yea I agree with all this, it's his contract year, if he doesn't prove it this year he won't ever get another chance

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:

Originally posted by Kuya:

Originally posted by 49erInTheMidwest:
If Hyde can put together a nice year, and stay healthy I see him as the RB of our future. He's got nice intangibles, and he's still somewhat fresh in the league.

nah bro, Hyde has maybe 2-4 years left as a starter. if that.

i think he only gets one chance left and this is a prove it year for the organization and to Kyle. if he's not a stud early, he is done as a starter in this league.

Yea I agree with all this, it's his contract year, if he doesn't prove it this year he won't ever get another chance

That's the thing.. When he plays he's typically productive. Like I said 4.6 yards per carry is a pretty good number.. With a 1-2 punch of a compliment back, I think that number will probably be even better. He's proven he can play IMO, he still has to prove he can stay healthy and 4 more years as a starter is pretty good.. 8 years as a starter is a solid amount of time for a RB. If he can get his body right, hopefully the new strength coaches and rest of the staff will help with that and make it potentially more than 4 more years. Like I said, being the only offensive weapon puts some wear and tear on a body, ask Jamal Charles and AP.

Originally posted by Rascal:
That 4th ranked run game last season was misleading, it was yards that didn't come to much. We had to run the ball that much when we couldn't pass.

The 4th ranked run game is the 4th ranked run game, just like his 4.6 yards per carry is still 4.6 yards per carry. Believe it or not, we were actually pretty good at running the ball last year, and had we had WRs and a QB who could connect then that 4.6 would probably increase because of offensive versatility.. Keep in mind how much our run game has already improved with Juice at FB. I'm excited to watch Hyde this year. Praying he plays all 16 games.

Here's Hyde with a fullback running outside zone with QB under center. We should be seeing lots of this next season. I like how outside zone gets defenders going lateral while trying to tackle a RB going north. Hyde breaks arm tackles.

Originally posted by thl408:
Here's Hyde with a fullback running outside zone with QB under center. We should be seeing lots of this next season. I like how outside zone gets defenders going lateral while trying to tackle a RB going north. Hyde breaks arm tackles.

Cant wait I miss that OLine

Originally posted by 49erInTheMidwest:
If Hyde can put together a nice year, and stay healthy I see him as the RB of our future. He's got nice intangibles, and he's still somewhat fresh in the league. Of course Shan's system appears to need two backs, but my problem with the Fournette pick is that it seems too much like a replacement. I'm hoping we don't replace Hyde this year, but just compliment him with a nice 1-2 punch.. I just want one fully healthy season and I'm hoping that a better OL, the system, and a compliment back can help Hyde. I think Loso Hyde can fit nicely in Shan's offense. I'm still on the Hyde train and hope we don't draft Fournette at 2 and derail it.

I think the point is teams wouldn't consider taking Fournette if they didn't believe he was the type of player you can build offenses around. Hyde is tremendous but he's starting to be that guy who never lives up to expectations. Everyone glosses over all the DL misses there have been in the first round, which is odd considering Kentwan Balmer. :)

All i know if dude misses some games this year dont even bother signing him to a long term contract. We will find out this year what kind of back is he going to be for his tenure in the NFL. Either he shakes the injury bug or he just become another Reggie Bush N quite never shakes off being injury prone.

Originally posted by Rascal:
That 4th ranked run game last season was misleading, it was yards that didn't come to much. We had to run the ball that much when we couldn't pass.

Hyde was one of the most effective backs in the NFL last year based on the various available metrics. A RB with chronic ankle issues is highly unlikely to be the selection, especially in Shanahan's offense where they grab a random guy off the street and he becomes a 1,000 yard rusher.

What Hyde needs most is a competent passing offense and a quality #2 back to split carries with.