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Mar 15, 2017 at 10:22 AM

blizzuntz
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
The team declined steadily beginning not long after Baalke took over and then sharply a few years into his tenure as GM.

The team declined once their key core players retired(Justin Smith, Willis) or got stupid(Aldon, McDonald).

Baalke was part of the reason why they were able to reach such a high level in 2011-2013. He was also the reason why the team couldnt recover from their player losses but lets not pretend that he didnt acquire some crucial pieces in 2010 and 2011 that helped make success possible.

Ironically his last draft has been praised pretty highly and could turn out to be a very good one if guys like Buckner, Garnett, Robinson and Blair continue to progress.

Had he drafted more like that consistently he'd still be the 49ers GM most likely.

Nah.

Harbaugh made Baalke look good.

Mar 19, 2017 at 4:44 PM

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
The team declined steadily beginning not long after Baalke took over and then sharply a few years into his tenure as GM.

The team declined once their key core players retired(Justin Smith, Willis) or got stupid(Aldon, McDonald).

Baalke was part of the reason why they were able to reach such a high level in 2011-2013. He was also the reason why the team couldnt recover from their player losses but lets not pretend that he didnt acquire some crucial pieces in 2010 and 2011 that helped make success possible.

Ironically his last draft has been praised pretty highly and could turn out to be a very good one if guys like Buckner, Garnett, Robinson and Blair continue to progress.

Had he drafted more like that consistently he'd still be the 49ers GM most likely.

Let's not forget that Baalke was instrumental in letting Harbaugh go, promoting Tomsula and hiring Kelly. Anybody could have chosen Buckner. Garnett was picked a round too high. Robinson is skinny and prone to injury. Blair played little on a 2-14 team. Over the years, Baalke's misses were monumental. Rather than still being our GM, Jed should fire Baalke again.

Mar 19, 2017 at 5:54 PM

#333

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Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
The team declined steadily beginning not long after Baalke took over and then sharply a few years into his tenure as GM.

The team declined once their key core players retired(Justin Smith, Willis) or got stupid(Aldon, McDonald).

Baalke was part of the reason why they were able to reach such a high level in 2011-2013. He was also the reason why the team couldnt recover from their player losses but lets not pretend that he didnt acquire some crucial pieces in 2010 and 2011 that helped make success possible.

Ironically his last draft has been praised pretty highly and could turn out to be a very good one if guys like Buckner, Garnett, Robinson and Blair continue to progress.

Had he drafted more like that consistently he'd still be the 49ers GM most likely.

Nah.

Harbaugh made Baalke look good.

Yup baalke is a fool he couldn't hold Harbaugh jockstrap

Mar 19, 2017 at 9:20 PM

#334

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Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Nah.

Harbaugh made Baalke look good.

Having the NFL's best roster at the time obviously had absolutely nothing to do with that success.

Mar 19, 2017 at 9:27 PM

#335

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Originally posted by Jcool:
From my dude @dcsportsbog. Sounds like Scot didn't do much. Discuss among yourselves. https://t.co/UeHDu8APv9
— Jason Reid (@JReidESPN) March 15, 2017

"You're right," Michael said. "You really can't believe anything written or posted about this team, other than on 'Redskins Nation.' You've seen what some of the reports have been, which have no veracity. Some of these reports, just grasping at straws. If we were to sit here and try to correct all the erroneous reports that we've seen — and the haters are out in full force, as we know."

[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Mar 19, 2017 at 9:28 PM ]

Mar 20, 2017 at 6:03 AM

#336

blizzuntz
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Nah.

Harbaugh made Baalke look good.

Having the NFL's best roster at the time obviously had absolutely nothing to do with that success.

And as the roster began to be made up of more Baalkes doings ......we all know what happened there.

Mar 20, 2017 at 10:51 AM

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Nah.

Harbaugh made Baalke look good.

Having the NFL's best roster at the time obviously had absolutely nothing to do with that success.

Harbaugh and a great staff took a team Baalke had very little to do with, made it into a super bowl team which Baalke then decimated with terrible management and moved and to top it off, blamed Harbaugh and co. and destroyed the coaching staff.

We would have been much better off if Baalke never existed. Would we have been better off without Harbaugh? Not bloody likely since before that and after we look like the browns,

[ Edited by Young2Rice on Mar 20, 2017 at 10:54 AM ]

Mar 20, 2017 at 10:54 AM

#338

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Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Nah.

Harbaugh made Baalke look good.

Having the NFL's best roster at the time obviously had absolutely nothing to do with that success.

Harbaugh and a great staff took a team Baalke had very little to do with, made it into a super bowl team which Baalke then decimated with terrible management and moved and to top it off, blamed Harbaugh and co. and destroyed the coaching staff.

Depressing!

I sure hope it works out with Shanahan! Other than Harbaugh ,Shanahan was my pick to be our head coach all the way!

I hope he is our HC for the next 25-30 years! This would mean he is successful in the role.

Mar 20, 2017 at 11:21 AM

#339

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Firing an employee for being drunk is not an issue. Publicly running his name through the dirt is an issue.

You can move on from employees without making a scene. Just move on.

Mar 20, 2017 at 10:16 PM

#340

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McCloughan>Baalke.

We should give him a call and see if he wants to work with the Niners as a talent evaluator.

I'll take a buzzed McCloughan over a sober Baalke.

Mar 21, 2017 at 8:15 PM

#341

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Its pretty obvious Scott is a scapegoat for a lot of issues here. He obviously has a problem, But Bruce Allen and Dan Schneider running someone's name through the trenches? Really? Worst owner in the history of sports, and Allen is just as big of a drunk lol.

Mar 22, 2017 at 12:54 PM

#342

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Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
Its pretty obvious Scott is a scapegoat for a lot of issues here. He obviously has a problem, But Bruce Allen and Dan Schneider running someone's name through the trenches? Really? Worst owner in the history of sports, and Allen is just as big of a drunk lol.

Ironically Jed and Baalke did the same thing....

Mar 22, 2017 at 5:36 PM

#343

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Originally posted by jcs:
Ironically Jed and Baalke did the same thing....

They did?

Thats news to me...

Mar 23, 2017 at 8:51 AM

#344

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Skins reaching out to top execs from other clubs on GM vacancy. Facing uphill fight to land one: https://t.co/uoDjoDR7Ee
— Jason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora) March 23, 2017

Mar 23, 2017 at 8:53 AM

#345

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Originally posted by Jcool:
Skins reaching out to top execs from other clubs on GM vacancy. Facing uphill fight to land one: https://t.co/uoDjoDR7Ee
— Jason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora) March 23, 2017

Baalke!!!

Oh wait he isn't part of another club