Head Coach options for the 49ers in 2011: Who do you like and why?

Originally posted by DesiDez:
To me, its down to Gruden, Harbaugh, and darkhorse Holmgren.

These 3 candidates are the most familiar faces in the Bay Area and to the general 49ers fan.

While Mularkey and Morhingweg are "good" candidates, they will be given a shorter leash to turn this franchise around, much like Singletary.

It will also be interesting to see what Jed's does with the GM job. Will he hire a GM or President of Football Operations to hire their own coach, or will Jed hire the HC first and find a GM later?

If it's Holmgren, he'll be given the keys. If it's Gruden, I suspect he would hire Gruden first, then along with Gruden find a GM or just retain Trent Baalke. If it's Harbaugh... well, who knows?

Originally posted by FL9er:
You learn something new everyday:

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"The days of head coaches being paid astronomical figures are numbered. Trust me — these owners are getting together. They are all going to be looking for young, up-and-coming coordinators. Those are the guys that are winning. They are looking for the next Mike Tomlin. The Steelers have the model everyone aspires for."

• "If Gary Kubiak gets fired, he'll be in high demand as an offensive coordinator. There is a shortage of good play-callers in the NFL. The biggest problem in Houston has been the defense. They have not been able to get it corrected. The secondary is anemic."

"The problem with big-name coaches like Jon Gruden and Bill Cowher is that they want to bring their own staff with them. They want personnel people they can control. Most places have personnel people in place, and are not looking to be run out of town. Owners are looking at the bottom line as closely as ever, and I could tell you right now how ours feels about the ransom these guys are commanding. They don't even want to hear about it. It's not an option."

"I don't think Jim Harbaugh will choose the NFL over Michigan. (The Wolverines) should have gone after him the last time around when some of the boosters were clamoring for him. Now they are going to have to make up for it. … I think he's in the same situation as Chip Kelly — you think he is going to make as much money in the pros as he will in college. Colleges are throwing it around more carelessly than the NFL nowadays. That's just my opinion."

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2010/12/19/insider-eagles-comeback-one-for-ages

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Originally posted by FL9er:
You learn something new everyday:

Quote:
"The days of head coaches being paid astronomical figures are numbered. Trust me — these owners are getting together. They are all going to be looking for young, up-and-coming coordinators. Those are the guys that are winning. They are looking for the next Mike Tomlin. The Steelers have the model everyone aspires for."

• "If Gary Kubiak gets fired, he'll be in high demand as an offensive coordinator. There is a shortage of good play-callers in the NFL. The biggest problem in Houston has been the defense. They have not been able to get it corrected. The secondary is anemic."

"The problem with big-name coaches like Jon Gruden and Bill Cowher is that they want to bring their own staff with them. They want personnel people they can control. Most places have personnel people in place, and are not looking to be run out of town. Owners are looking at the bottom line as closely as ever, and I could tell you right now how ours feels about the ransom these guys are commanding. They don't even want to hear about it. It's not an option."

"I don't think Jim Harbaugh will choose the NFL over Michigan. (The Wolverines) should have gone after him the last time around when some of the boosters were clamoring for him. Now they are going to have to make up for it. … I think he's in the same situation as Chip Kelly — you think he is going to make as much money in the pros as he will in college. Colleges are throwing it around more carelessly than the NFL nowadays. That's just my opinion."

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2010/12/19/insider-eagles-comeback-one-for-ages

yeah, i'm sure every team looking for a new coach is going to hire some "up and comer" because he's cheaper.... especially teams like the 49ers who have already tried this concept before and have lost millions and millions due to buyouts and poor play. that makes sense to me. whoever wrote that article is a f**king moron.

Originally posted by teeohh:

Originally posted by FL9er:
You learn something new everyday:

Quote:
"The days of head coaches being paid astronomical figures are numbered. Trust me — these owners are getting together. They are all going to be looking for young, up-and-coming coordinators. Those are the guys that are winning. They are looking for the next Mike Tomlin. The Steelers have the model everyone aspires for."

• "If Gary Kubiak gets fired, he'll be in high demand as an offensive coordinator. There is a shortage of good play-callers in the NFL. The biggest problem in Houston has been the defense. They have not been able to get it corrected. The secondary is anemic."

"The problem with big-name coaches like Jon Gruden and Bill Cowher is that they want to bring their own staff with them. They want personnel people they can control. Most places have personnel people in place, and are not looking to be run out of town. Owners are looking at the bottom line as closely as ever, and I could tell you right now how ours feels about the ransom these guys are commanding. They don't even want to hear about it. It's not an option."

"I don't think Jim Harbaugh will choose the NFL over Michigan. (The Wolverines) should have gone after him the last time around when some of the boosters were clamoring for him. Now they are going to have to make up for it. … I think he's in the same situation as Chip Kelly — you think he is going to make as much money in the pros as he will in college. Colleges are throwing it around more carelessly than the NFL nowadays. That's just my opinion."

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2010/12/19/insider-eagles-comeback-one-for-ages

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They are not in the same situations at all... Chip Kelly is a career college coach running an innovative college offense to great success... if he came to the pros he would fail as badly as all the other college coaches have. Harbaugh runs his college team like a pro team. He has pro assistants and runs a pro offense and coached and played in the pros... he wont have much of a learning curve in the pros. As far as money Rich Rodriguez makes around $2.5 million, they would probably have to give Harbaugh 3-4 million, a figure I am sure the 49ers could match or beat.

Originally posted by teeohh:

Originally posted by FL9er:
You learn something new everyday:

Quote:
"The days of head coaches being paid astronomical figures are numbered. Trust me — these owners are getting together. They are all going to be looking for young, up-and-coming coordinators. Those are the guys that are winning. They are looking for the next Mike Tomlin. The Steelers have the model everyone aspires for."

• "If Gary Kubiak gets fired, he'll be in high demand as an offensive coordinator. There is a shortage of good play-callers in the NFL. The biggest problem in Houston has been the defense. They have not been able to get it corrected. The secondary is anemic."

"The problem with big-name coaches like Jon Gruden and Bill Cowher is that they want to bring their own staff with them. They want personnel people they can control. Most places have personnel people in place, and are not looking to be run out of town. Owners are looking at the bottom line as closely as ever, and I could tell you right now how ours feels about the ransom these guys are commanding. They don't even want to hear about it. It's not an option."

"I don't think Jim Harbaugh will choose the NFL over Michigan. (The Wolverines) should have gone after him the last time around when some of the boosters were clamoring for him. Now they are going to have to make up for it. … I think he's in the same situation as Chip Kelly — you think he is going to make as much money in the pros as he will in college. Colleges are throwing it around more carelessly than the NFL nowadays. That's just my opinion."

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2010/12/19/insider-eagles-comeback-one-for-ages

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speaking of kubiak hiring him as an oc will be extremely risky, he will get a shot again. even though he had the best wr in the game he sill ran a pretty good offense

We're not GETTING a new HC in 2011.

1.) The Yorks are cheap
2.) The Yorks will be deluded in to thinking we're a playoff-caliber team.
3.) Lockout

Originally posted by area49:
We're not GETTING a new HC in 2011.

1.) The Yorks are cheap
2.) The Yorks will be deluded in to thinking we're a playoff-caliber team.
3.) Lockout

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by bigtony2tone:

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by DesiDez:
Jed is trying to get a stadium built. He's not putting his hopes in Mike Mularkey or Marty Morhinweg.

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Totally agree. They won't even be considered. Nor should they.

Jed has to make a big splash. He is a businessman, he knows this. Harbaugh or Gruden are the likely culprits. I'm sure he'll pay for Cowher, but my guess is Cowher wants to stay on the east coast.

Why wouldn't he? If he's a good businessman, he's knows you don't overlook strong candidate, especially on the basis of not being "splashy" choices. I don't care if Lombardi's ghost is the next coach. If the team don't win, the support for a stadium (financially) won't be there.

If Jed's a smart businessman, he would understand the huge risks with giving total control to yet another coach. Gruden and Cowher would both demand this.

Unfortunately my faith in Jed York has yet to materialize. I'd give him the benefit of the doubt, but knowing how this team has been operated I just don't know. Gruden wouldn't shock me, actually. Unfortunately I have little faith in Gruden being able to develop a young QB and handle the entire roster-building duties.

Mike Mularkey and Marty Mornhinweg are 2 of the TOP head coaching candidates going into the offseason. Both have been tremendously successful as OCs (though Mornhinweg's involvement in playcalling in Philly is suspect). Both have also been head coaches before. The combo of experience, success, and familiarity with the best-ran organizations in the league vault them to the top of the list.

Too bad so many fans think the NFL works like Madden. Hiring the biggest name head coach and signing/trading for the top player at every position is NOT realistic.

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I have no doubt they are fantastic football people. But they're not real head coaching candidates this offseason. They're just names people mention.

Jed needs to sell hope, season tickets and buy a stadium THIS offseason. Neither of those two guys will do that.

I'm not saying Gruden, Cowher or Harbaugh will do a better job. I'm saying they're the guys we'll hire. The fan base literally won't buy into the coaches you mentioned. That is all that matters.

I don't know what makes you think this organization will shell out the power and dollars for one of those guys (Gruden and Cowher). Harbaugh, that I can see happening assuming he'd be interested.

First off, can we please just stop even mentioning Cowher as a candidate for the 9ers job?! There is absolutely no way he comes here. NO WAY. If he's coaching next season, it's for Tennessee.

I see what you're saying in regards to Gruden. I just think it'd be a bad hire. Especially if he were given control of football operations.

I don't see why hiring either Mularkey or Mornhinweg would be taken negatively by the fan base. Both are strong candidates with the experience to both develop a young QB and provide stability to our offense. If anything, Gruden's complex offense and rub-the-wrong-way personality should scare 9er fans at least a bit. I just want this fan base to take a dose of reality and realize that a glossy name makes not a great fit for the job.

Cowher isn't coming here, and I say good. Didn't want him in the first place:

http://www.ninersnation.com/2010/12/19/1886725/nfl-head-coach-search-bill-cowher-interested-in-giants-dolphins-texans

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Help wanted

Continuing my holiday list theme, here are potential coaching openings, some of which were nailed down Sunday. The list does not include Cincinnati and Carolina because we all know those spots will be open because their coach's contract expires at the end of the season.

1. Cleveland Browns: Eric Mangini was on a short rope before the season started and road losses to Buffalo and Cincinnati the last two weeks didn't help. Expect Mike Holmgren to make a move and bring in one of his (or his agent Bob Lamont) guys to run the team. My early favorite is John Fox.

2. Houston Texans: Owner Bob McNair extended coach Gary Kubiak's contract last year believing his team would turn things around and the playoffs would be in their future. Instead of improving this year, the Texans have gotten worse. Falling to the Titans assured the Texans a sub-.500 record and Kubiak losing his job. Chances are strong Kubiak will end up in Denver -- he returns this week to play his former team -- and maybe Bill Cowher will land in Houston.

3. Miami Dolphins: When a team is 1-6 in front of the hometown fans, then their coach cannot feel safe. I'm not certain Tony Sparano is gone in Miami, but I'm also not certain he will be back. The Dolphins have let down their fans with their play at home (1-6). Despite all the explosive plays they were supposed to put up with the addition of Brandon Marshall, the offense is slow, slow, slow.

4. San Francisco 49ers: It's highly unlikely Mike Singletary can save his job now, as the Niners are at best a 7-9 team, even if they make the playoffs. The 49ers must make a move because their offense failed to improve in spite of the change at coordinator. The loss Thursday night highlighted everything wrong with the 49ers under the Singletary regime.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81d0f8e5/article/lightning-does-strikes-twice?module=HP_spotlight

Originally posted by area49:
We're not GETTING a new HC in 2011.

1.) The Yorks are cheap
2.) The Yorks will be deluded in to thinking we're a playoff-caliber team.
3.) Lockout

1.) Wrong
2.) They're dumb, but not stupid (see the Erickson and Nolan's firings)
3.) Labor agreement could end quickly; no team will get caught without a head coach

Originally posted by area49:
We're not GETTING a new HC in 2011.

1.) The Yorks are cheap
2.) The Yorks will be deluded in to thinking we're a playoff-caliber team.
3.) Lockout

isnt Patrick Willis & Vernon Davis the highest players EVER in there possessions? and all I hear from ppl is how Nate Clements is so over-paid.I think think the last thing the Yorks r is cheep,say what u want about there decision making but you cant say there cheep

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:

Originally posted by area49:
We're not GETTING a new HC in 2011.

1.) The Yorks are cheap
2.) The Yorks will be deluded in to thinking we're a playoff-caliber team.
3.) Lockout

1.) Wrong
2.) They're dumb, but not stupid (see the Erickson and Nolan's firings)
3.) Labor agreement could end quickly; no team will get caught without a head coach

1.) Care to elaborate?
2.) No, they're stupid.
3.) No team will get caught without a head coach EXCEPT the 49ers.

Another name to watch out for is Raiders OC Hue Jackson. The more research you do on him, the more you come away impressed with how he carries himself, how respected he is in the league as an offensive innovator and supremely confident leader of men.

He's going to be a head coach in the league very soon; I hope we at least give him a long look.

Originally posted by area49:

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:

Originally posted by area49:
We're not GETTING a new HC in 2011.

1.) The Yorks are cheap
2.) The Yorks will be deluded in to thinking we're a playoff-caliber team.
3.) Lockout

1.) Wrong
2.) They're dumb, but not stupid (see the Erickson and Nolan's firings)
3.) Labor agreement could end quickly; no team will get caught without a head coach

1.) Care to elaborate?
2.) No, they're stupid.
3.) No team will get caught without a head coach EXCEPT the 49ers.

It's clear you're just venting...I can appreciate that, so there's no need for us to go back and forth on this one.