Urban Meyer's famous quote on Alex | Page 2

DJD · 2009-10-28T09:36:16-07:00

Lets take a minute to reflect on what Urban Meyer said about Alex oh so long ago and see how it stands up and if true what it could mean for this team 'moving forward' Link "It's going to be interesting in San Francisco," Meyer said. "Alex is an extremely quick learner. However, he's a guy that, until he understands it, he is nonfunctional. He is a guy that -- I keep hearing how Brett Favre kind of makes something out of nothing and is a person that runs around to make a play -- Alex Smith is not that kind of player. Alex Smith is a person that, once he is taught, has to learn it all. He might struggle early, but once he gets it, he gets it." - Urban Meyer He also said... "I'm going to be anxious to watch his development with the 49ers. Alex is so careful with the ball. His touchdown-to-interception ratio the last 2 years was phenomenal (47 touchdowns and seven interceptions). That's because, unless he knows exactly what's going on, he won't throw it. He won't just try to guess and take a shot. He has to know. "That's why, early in his career, and early in our career with him at Utah, he was not an effective passer, because he really didn't understand. Once he understood, there was no one better. He learns quickly, though. But he's not a guy that you throw the ball out there and tell him, 'Go play.' He wants to know what is exactly expected of him and then he becomes a dynamite player.' -------- Now looking back we all made frequent reference to this break down as Alex struggled after being thrown to the wolves basically. This time however he was allowed to sit back and lean BEFORE he was thrown in there. The results this time seems to ring true to what Urban said oh so long ago and if this all is true we may just be on to something here. Smith looked completely at ease out there this week all of those 'ineffective' traits were gone. All I saw was to quote Urban 'a dynamite player' Go niners!! Go Smitty!!

Oct 28, 2009 at 9:55 AM

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One half of a football game does not a resurrection make... I'd love for Alex to live up to expectations from here on out, but I need to see some consistency.

Oct 28, 2009 at 9:58 AM

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Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Dumbass Nolan and FO for the constant revolving door at OC. Sadly if Alex does play well we will be stuck with Raye. His blocking scheme I partly blame for the Oline probs

Raye is a good thing for Alex....I believe one of the reasons he was hired is because he runs a Norv Turner type offense(Correll). That's the system Alex showed the most promise with. So please stop the Raye bashing and give the guy a chance to show what he can do with a real QB.

Oct 28, 2009 at 9:58 AM

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Oct 28, 2009 at 10:00 AM

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Originally posted by Ninerbowl6:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Dumbass Nolan and FO for the constant revolving door at OC. Sadly if Alex does play well we will be stuck with Raye. His blocking scheme I partly blame for the Oline probs

Raye is a good thing for Alex....I believe one of the reasons he was hired is because he runs a Norv Turner type offense(Correll). That's the system Alex showed the most promise with. So please stop the Raye bashing and give the guy a chance to show what he can do with a real QB.

Lol, didnt bash him. I like his PC I just think his BLOCKING scheme is an issue

Oct 28, 2009 at 10:03 AM

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in nolan's defense, mike mccarthy left after nolans first year. Norv turner left well into the end of nolan's second year, essentially forcing nolan to hire hostler. By his fourth year nolan was under so much pressure that he had to hire a proven oc, mike martz.

Oct 28, 2009 at 10:04 AM

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So now the question is why was he so fluent in his play on Sunday? Was it because he knows how the NFL is? Because he now knows a new system for 2009? Is Rayes system very similar to his successful season in 07? I personally think it is because he is older and more mature plus he knows the speed on the NFL now. JMO.

Oct 28, 2009 at 10:07 AM

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Originally posted by wolfpack219:
So now the question is why was he so fluent in his play on Sunday? Was it because he knows how the NFL is? Because he now knows a new system for 2009? Is Rayes system very similar to his successful season in 07? I personally think it is because he is older and more mature plus he knows the speed on the NFL now. JMO.

This.

Oct 28, 2009 at 10:08 AM

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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by wolfpack219:
So now the question is why was he so fluent in his play on Sunday? Was it because he knows how the NFL is? Because he now knows a new system for 2009? Is Rayes system very similar to his successful season in 07? I personally think it is because he is older and more mature plus he knows the speed on the NFL now. JMO.

This.

Lets hope so.

Oct 28, 2009 at 10:08 AM

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Originally posted by JoseCortez:
in nolan's defense, mike mccarthy left after nolans first year. Norv turner left well into the end of nolan's second year, essentially forcing nolan to hire hostler. By his fourth year nolan was under so much pressure that he had to hire a proven oc, mike martz.

All true, but Nolan is also the guy that threw Alex under the bus and back into the meat grinder with a potentially career ending injury. Then teased him cause his 'widdle shoulder hurt'. This was a time when Dilfer, a seasoned vet was on the roster and should have played until Smith was right.

You can really tell that coach sing has learned from all of these mistakes. He is being very careful with his players health.

Oct 28, 2009 at 10:09 AM

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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by TheChozen:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
We managed him the wrong way. NoWIN did. Urban Meyer told us exactly what to do.

~ Keep the same offensive coordinator.
~ Keep the same system.
~ Let Alex learn on the bench for a while until he knows everything.
~ Don't throw him to the wolves before he is ready.

And what did we do?

I agree we handled it the wrong way but this happens with every rookie QB and every team.

Not true.

Not every team gets a different offensive coordinator every year. And not every team has a new offensive system every year. Peyton Manning and Tom Brady have had pretty much the same system since they came in the league.

Not every player gets thrown to the wolves right away. Carson Palmer sat out 1 year from the sideline learning before he went in his 2nd year to start the first time.

We didn't keep the same OC but that wasn't like it was planned that way. That sucked for Alex and most young qb's do have the luxury of playing in the same system for at least 2 years.

But, for every Carson Palmer you name, I can name at least 10 Alex Smiths,Matt Staffords,Joey Harringtons,and Ryan Leafs that get thrown in before they are ready and before they have had the chance to learn.

Oct 28, 2009 at 10:09 AM

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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by wolfpack219:
So now the question is why was he so fluent in his play on Sunday? Was it because he knows how the NFL is? Because he now knows a new system for 2009? Is Rayes system very similar to his successful season in 07? I personally think it is because he is older and more mature plus he knows the speed on the NFL now. JMO.

This.

Yo SD do you like Alex?

Oct 28, 2009 at 10:11 AM

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one solid half and everyone is back on the wagon

Oct 28, 2009 at 10:11 AM

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Alex Smith motherb***hes whooooooooooooooooooahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Oct 28, 2009 at 10:13 AM

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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by TheChozen:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
We managed him the wrong way. NoWIN did. Urban Meyer told us exactly what to do.

~ Keep the same offensive coordinator.
~ Keep the same system.
~ Let Alex learn on the bench for a while until he knows everything.
~ Don't throw him to the wolves before he is ready.

And what did we do?

I agree we handled it the wrong way but this happens with every rookie QB and every team.

Not true.

Not every team gets a different offensive coordinator every year. And not every team has a new offensive system every year. Peyton Manning and Tom Brady have had pretty much the same system since they came in the league.

Not every player gets thrown to the wolves right away. Carson Palmer sat out 1 year from the sideline learning before he went in his 2nd year to start the first time.

Well it wasn't Nolan's fault 2 of them left to be head coaches. Hostler was his fault though, horrible pick, but Turner left us so late

But I agree, he should have been on the bench, and he should have had a better QB coach, Hostler was horrible.

Oct 28, 2009 at 10:13 AM

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Originally posted by billybonka:
one solid half and everyone is back on the wagon

I never left. Wanted him over Hill day uno