You're making the pick at #27, who do you take?

Realistically, with the Niners propensity to reach, it's better to list the players that rank about 40-50 on the draft rankings and allow us to pick amongst those players. Lynch and Shanny usually reach and we should expect the same outcome this year. It's just what they do!

Lynch and Shanny remind me of guys who marry the first girl that they ever kiss. Sadly, they don't look at the big picture and they tend to "glom onto" that one player that they think will be a "Niners type of guy."

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Take the best player available and do t over think it.

McDonald had 65 tackles, 9 TFL and 3 sacks. As a NT getting doubled nearly every snap.

There are guys I'd take ahead of him: Denzel Boston, Kenyon Sadiq, KC Conception but none of those guys in the poll would bring as much of an instant day 1 impact as McDonald.

If we go DT I prefer Lee Hunter

If we go DT in the 1st I'm going to be pissed

Originally posted by bigpete50:
Realistically, with the Niners propensity to reach, it's better to list the players that rank about 40-50 on the draft rankings and allow us to pick amongst those players. Lynch and Shanny usually reach and we should expect the same outcome this year. It's just what they do!

Lynch and Shanny remind me of guys who marry the first girl that they ever kiss. Sadly, they don't look at the big picture and they tend to "glom onto" that one player that they think will be a "Niners type of guy."

Teams drafting near the end of each round where the Niners have been recently often reach because the best players are gone. They start lookinh at players who they think have the potential to fit in their system but may need more development.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by bigpete50:
Realistically, with the Niners propensity to reach, it's better to list the players that rank about 40-50 on the draft rankings and allow us to pick amongst those players. Lynch and Shanny usually reach and we should expect the same outcome this year. It's just what they do!

Lynch and Shanny remind me of guys who marry the first girl that they ever kiss. Sadly, they don't look at the big picture and they tend to "glom onto" that one player that they think will be a "Niners type of guy."

Teams drafting near the end of each round where the Niners have been recently often reach because the best players are gone. They start lookinh at players who they think have the potential to fit in their system but may need more development.

If the reach is Malachi Lawrence I won't be mad lol

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Teams drafting near the end of each round where the Niners have been recently often reach because the best players are gone. They start lookinh at players who they think have the potential to fit in their system but may need more development.

Niners have missed out on an absolute ton of talent because they don't subscribe to the philosophy of taking best available player. Here would be a prime example. We have a ton of needs this year. Let's use pass rusher as an example. So instead of polarizing on a position of need, instead of taking the 5th highest rated pass rusher, take the second highest guard instead. We need to avoid reaching for a Drake Jackson type player and go with players who rank better on the draft boards. Drafting Kinlaw when CeeDee Lamb goes one player later is another great example…

Stop doing this…

I have seen the mock drafts projecting Mesidor to the Niners at 27. I seriously doubt that will happen. First, I believe the Rams would select him at 13 IF they don't select a QB. And, If they don't, some other team would definitely take him before 27. My move would be to trade Jones and get a 2nd round pick for him. Package the later 2nd rd the Niners have along with one of their 3 4th rd picks and move up to get Mesidor. What say ye?

Originally posted by bigpete50:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Teams drafting near the end of each round where the Niners have been recently often reach because the best players are gone. They start lookinh at players who they think have the potential to fit in their system but may need more development.

Niners have missed out on an absolute ton of talent because they don't subscribe to the philosophy of taking best available player. Here would be a prime example. We have a ton of needs this year. Let's use pass rusher as an example. So instead of polarizing on a position of need, instead of taking the 5th highest rated pass rusher, take the second highest guard instead. We need to avoid reaching for a Drake Jackson type player and go with players who rank better on the draft boards. Drafting Kinlaw when CeeDee Lamb goes one player later is another great example…

Stop doing this…

Tbh, BPA doesn't mean much, cus its BPA according to who? I think the biggest problem has been that the BPA according to the 49ers staff just haven't been very good.

Im sure there's some philosophical issues at play (for example, drafting Moody because theres no way a rook beats out a starter and who needs youth, athleticism and depth amirite?), but the scouting seems to be the largest reason we havent drafted well.

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Tbh, BPA doesn't mean much, cus its BPA according to who? I think the biggest problem has been that the BPA according to the 49ers staff just haven't been very good.

Im sure there's some philosophical issues at play (for example, drafting Moody because theres no way a rook beats out a starter and who needs youth, athleticism and depth amirite?), but the scouting seems to be the largest reason we havent drafted well.

Exactly, it's something no one ever answers. BPA according to pff? NFL.com? Mel kiper? Some YouTube guy? An aggregate of all of them?

With that said, our draft classes have ranged from ok to awful in the shanahan/Lynch era. They've hit a few unlikely grand slams late in a couple drafts and beyond that not much to write home about.

I don't know who is at fault but it's not acceptable and if something doesn't change soon we'll have a new hc/GM in a couple years

OL-DL-OL-DL

Nothing else matters.

Originally posted by bigpete50:
Niners have missed out on an absolute ton of talent because they don't subscribe to the philosophy of taking best available player. Here would be a prime example. We have a ton of needs this year. Let's use pass rusher as an example. So instead of polarizing on a position of need, instead of taking the 5th highest rated pass rusher, take the second highest guard instead. We need to avoid reaching for a Drake Jackson type player and go with players who rank better on the draft boards. Drafting Kinlaw when CeeDee Lamb goes one player later is another great example…

Stop doing this…

when you get past the top 20 players in a draft typically the BPA is so debatable for example this year i think they are a top 15 to 20 players after that they are all ismilar talents it dpeneds what you are looking for.

This is a draft where you may want to trade back and get as many picks in top 100 as possible but teams are also going to be htinking the same thing so finding a partner might be tough

Originally posted by Patton:
OL-DL-OL-DL

Nothing else matters.

Won't win many games with just OL and DL on the field.

While improving our trenches is the top priority and would lead to great success...doing it regardless of the board would be a bad idea. You just hope the board and the draft falls your way that you can go heavy on those units and still feel good about hitting the best guys on the board.

Originally posted by NinerTy:
I have seen the mock drafts projecting Mesidor to the Niners at 27. I seriously doubt that will happen. First, I believe the Rams would select him at 13 IF they don't select a QB. And, If they don't, some other team would definitely take him before 27. My move would be to trade Jones and get a 2nd round pick for him. Package the later 2nd rd the Niners have along with one of their 3 4th rd picks and move up to get Mesidor. What say ye?

Can't act like Jones is gonna get moved. Sounds like no one is gonna give up anything meaningful for him.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NinerTy:
I have seen the mock drafts projecting Mesidor to the Niners at 27. I seriously doubt that will happen. First, I believe the Rams would select him at 13 IF they don't select a QB. And, If they don't, some other team would definitely take him before 27. My move would be to trade Jones and get a 2nd round pick for him. Package the later 2nd rd the Niners have along with one of their 3 4th rd picks and move up to get Mesidor. What say ye?

Can't act like Jones is gonna get moved. Sounds like no one is gonna give up anything meaningful for him.

Yeah bummer...putting a real damper in my mock draft porn lol. I'm ok holding onto him and either getting a comp pick once he leaves in FA or potentially a better pick for the 2027 draft if a team is desperate mid season next year before the trade deadline.

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by bigpete50:
Niners have missed out on an absolute ton of talent because they don't subscribe to the philosophy of taking best available player. Here would be a prime example. We have a ton of needs this year. Let's use pass rusher as an example. So instead of polarizing on a position of need, instead of taking the 5th highest rated pass rusher, take the second highest guard instead. We need to avoid reaching for a Drake Jackson type player and go with players who rank better on the draft boards. Drafting Kinlaw when CeeDee Lamb goes one player later is another great example…

Stop doing this…

when you get past the top 20 players in a draft typically the BPA is so debatable for example this year i think they are a top 15 to 20 players after that they are all ismilar talents it dpeneds what you are looking for.

This is a draft where you may want to trade back and get as many picks in top 100 as possible but teams are also going to be htinking the same thing so finding a partner might be tough

I think when people are complaining about BPA, it's more reaching for a player rds earlier, than the consensus. Rarely has this type of thinking panned out.

Nick martin
moody
punter
Aaron Banks
Latu
Pettis (trading up)
constantly drafting RBs earlier (and moving picks)

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Originally posted by bigpete50:
Niners have missed out on an absolute ton of talent because they don't subscribe to the philosophy of taking best available player. Here would be a prime example. We have a ton of needs this year. Let's use pass rusher as an example. So instead of polarizing on a position of need, instead of taking the 5th highest rated pass rusher, take the second highest guard instead. We need to avoid reaching for a Drake Jackson type player and go with players who rank better on the draft boards. Drafting Kinlaw when CeeDee Lamb goes one player later is another great example…

Stop doing this…

Drake Jackson wasn't a reach based on where he was taken. Not sure why that's being used in this example? The year prior he was looked at as a top 15 talent. Wasn't my favorite edge (wieght issues and lack of hands) but he wasn't a reach at the end of the second.

Kinlaw wasn't a reach either, dude was DT1 on some boards. He was regarded as a top 15 talent. Lamb was who I wanted (also was a Ruggs fan with the speed). The BA pick made it easier to swallow (until he went AWOL).

I get what you're saying with not going BPA, I just think those a poor example to complain about.