DL: 2026 Draft Class

Originally posted by the_dynasty:

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
This is literally my only concern - but in a draft full of EDGEs with "yeah-buts" I like that but better than the buts of the most of the others lol

But yeah (reversal of words intended lol) Morris may prefer the speed rushers so he may like Lawrence/Howell at the top tier and then a guy like R Mason Thomas on a tier below that can be had in the 3rd round.

That would mean guys like Mesidor/Jacas/Young/Faulk would not really be his type - but I'd hope he'd make an exception for Mesidor if he's on the board at #27. If he passed on him for Lawrence I'd be disappointed but still be happy with the pick as I like Lawrence.

Howell and Mesidor (and Bain) are the only guys that look from the highlights that they are mad men QB-hunters by DNA and play rabid every down and live for hunting the QB. I love that in a DPR whose only primary job is to sack and pressure the QB.

R Mason Thomas wont last till third round, there is absolutely no way. He might not last till mid second round, if we're being honest.

Only if there is a run on EDGE would Thomas be gone by the mid 2nd. I think he's an early 3rd rd guy that could go late 2nd due to positional value.

But id rather have a G like Rutledge over Thomas at EDGE at #58. Or Ted Hurst at WR. Or AJ Haulcy at S.

But if he is someone we really like Lynch not afraid to reach for that guy. See Drake Jackson ...

Originally posted by tankle104:
I saw a few Miami Games this year and who stood out to me was Bain. I believe he will be a top 10 pick but he's the edge rusher I feel like is a blue chip. I haven't dug deep on him but just watching games with him - he really stood out to me. Doesn't seem like a freak athlete or anything but man just was strong and all over.

Yeah and Bain is a top 5 pick so he is unavailable.

Watch Mesidor's YouTube highlights and he's a dawg just like Bain. When you watch Bain you see Mesidor - they are both animals hunting the qb. Mesidor comes from inside outside wherever he has to go and OL can't block the dude just like Bain.

Whoever gets Bain in the top 5 should trade up into the 1st and take Mesidor too and pair them up again.

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:

Originally posted by the_dynasty:

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
This is literally my only concern - but in a draft full of EDGEs with "yeah-buts" I like that but better than the buts of the most of the others lol

But yeah (reversal of words intended lol) Morris may prefer the speed rushers so he may like Lawrence/Howell at the top tier and then a guy like R Mason Thomas on a tier below that can be had in the 3rd round.

That would mean guys like Mesidor/Jacas/Young/Faulk would not really be his type - but I'd hope he'd make an exception for Mesidor if he's on the board at #27. If he passed on him for Lawrence I'd be disappointed but still be happy with the pick as I like Lawrence.

Howell and Mesidor (and Bain) are the only guys that look from the highlights that they are mad men QB-hunters by DNA and play rabid every down and live for hunting the QB. I love that in a DPR whose only primary job is to sack and pressure the QB.

R Mason Thomas wont last till third round, there is absolutely no way. He might not last till mid second round, if we're being honest.

Only if there is a run on EDGE would Thomas be gone by the mid 2nd. I think he's an early 3rd rd guy that could go late 2nd due to positional value.

But id rather have a G like Rutledge over Thomas at EDGE at #58. Or Ted Hurst at WR. Or AJ Haulcy at S.

But if he is someone we really like Lynch not afraid to reach for that guy. See Drake Jackson ...

i dont think so at all he is probably the best speed rusher in the draft

Although i really like Parker and Mesidor at 27 i am warming up to the idea of R Masron Thomas or Howell at 27. They may not be on everyones radar as a first rounder because they are not every down players but they are speed rushers who wil be rotated in which is what we need. I think these two are the best pure pass rushers in the draft however they will be a bit of a liability in the run game.

One person who i think is a sneaky pick is Joshua Joesphs another pass rush specialist who may be a bit of a liability in run game although he is a bit more of a 2nd rounder

Originally posted by ritz126:
Although i really like Parker and Mesidor at 27 i am warming up to the idea of R Masron Thomas or Howell at 27. They may not be on everyones radar as a first rounder because they are not every down players but they are speed rushers who wil be rotated in which is what we need. I think these two are the best pure pass rushers in the draft however they will be a bit of a liability in the run game.

One person who i think is a sneaky pick is Joshua Joesphs another pass rush specialist who may be a bit of a liability in run game although he is a bit more of a 2nd rounder

I try to imagine a healthy Bosa and who compliments him. I also imagine Bosa being hurt and who can still generate pressure. I feel like Howell would thrive as a team's second best pass rusher, but not it's first. Thomas I believe could with a bit of development, but it's pure roulette guessing how these guys turn out.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by ritz126:
Although i really like Parker and Mesidor at 27 i am warming up to the idea of R Masron Thomas or Howell at 27. They may not be on everyones radar as a first rounder because they are not every down players but they are speed rushers who wil be rotated in which is what we need. I think these two are the best pure pass rushers in the draft however they will be a bit of a liability in the run game.

One person who i think is a sneaky pick is Joshua Joesphs another pass rush specialist who may be a bit of a liability in run game although he is a bit more of a 2nd rounder

I try to imagine a healthy Bosa and who compliments him. I also imagine Bosa being hurt and who can still generate pressure. I feel like Howell would thrive as a team's second best pass rusher, but not it's first. Thomas I believe could with a bit of development, but it's pure roulette guessing how these guys turn out.

R mason could defenetely develop his hand usage but his bend is probably only second to Howell and he may have the best first step in the draft. I do agree with you he may never develop into a primary pass rusher though but we dont need him to be he can easily be an 8 to 10 sack guy with limited usage and him being rotated in

It's a good sign that the 49ers are clearly interested in drafting an edge. But why do I feel like they will end up in a situation where they're on the clock at 27, the guy or two they want is gone, and none of the edge available are BPA ...but all of the players they (should) like in the next tier will be gone or passed on at pick 58. This is where you see them start reaching like crazy and drafting guys rounds earlier than necessary.

It feels like there will be a run on edges between picks ~20 and ~50.

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:

Originally posted by the_dynasty:

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
This is literally my only concern - but in a draft full of EDGEs with "yeah-buts" I like that but better than the buts of the most of the others lol

But yeah (reversal of words intended lol) Morris may prefer the speed rushers so he may like Lawrence/Howell at the top tier and then a guy like R Mason Thomas on a tier below that can be had in the 3rd round.

That would mean guys like Mesidor/Jacas/Young/Faulk would not really be his type - but I'd hope he'd make an exception for Mesidor if he's on the board at #27. If he passed on him for Lawrence I'd be disappointed but still be happy with the pick as I like Lawrence.

Howell and Mesidor (and Bain) are the only guys that look from the highlights that they are mad men QB-hunters by DNA and play rabid every down and live for hunting the QB. I love that in a DPR whose only primary job is to sack and pressure the QB.

R Mason Thomas wont last till third round, there is absolutely no way. He might not last till mid second round, if we're being honest.

Only if there is a run on EDGE would Thomas be gone by the mid 2nd. I think he's an early 3rd rd guy that could go late 2nd due to positional value.

But id rather have a G like Rutledge over Thomas at EDGE at #58. Or Ted Hurst at WR. Or AJ Haulcy at S.

But if he is someone we really like Lynch not afraid to reach for that guy. See Drake Jackson ...

i dont think so at all he is probably the best speed rusher in the draft

Howell is a tier above as a speed rusher imho

Originally posted by ritz126:
Although i really like Parker and Mesidor at 27 i am warming up to the idea of R Masron Thomas or Howell at 27. They may not be on everyones radar as a first rounder because they are not every down players but they are speed rushers who wil be rotated in which is what we need. I think these two are the best pure pass rushers in the draft however they will be a bit of a liability in the run game.

One person who i think is a sneaky pick is Joshua Joesphs another pass rush specialist who may be a bit of a liability in run game although he is a bit more of a 2nd rounder

If we draft Mason Thomas at #27 I'll just about blow a gasket. If going to make a huge reach better trade down first.

I think we fall in love with players and then make them first round picks just because they are one of our favorites.

I love Ted Hurst but I ain't drafting him at #27. I love Jalon Kilgore but I ain't drafting him at #27 or #58. I love Malik Benson but I ain't drafting him until the 4th.

I can accept Howell or Lawrence at #27 if they loved them. And I can accept Mason Thomas at #58 if they loved him - but not at #27.

Will be fun to see what slots these guys end up getting drafted.

I don't have a problem if they take Howell at 27. Flawed player, but that combo of juice and bend is for real. I like him even more if the 49ers are getting more of a Raheem Morris defense from ATL.

Originally posted by Heroism:
It's a good sign that the 49ers are clearly interested in drafting an edge. But why do I feel like they will end up in a situation where they're on the clock at 27, the guy or two they want is gone, and none of the edge available are BPA ...but all of the players they (should) like in the next tier will be gone or passed on at pick 58. This is where you see them start reaching like crazy and drafting guys rounds earlier than necessary.

It feels like there will be a run on edges between picks ~20 and ~50.

Yeah hoping Jacas and/or Mason Thomas still there at #58 assuming Lawrence/Young/Mesidor/Howell are all gone.

I agree 20-50 a lot of EDGEs will go off the board.

That's why a small trade back from #27 is so nice - not only do you get additional pick(s) now you can draft Lawrence/Howell/Young at #31-35ish and it's less of a reach or arguably not a reach at all thus getting value for the pick.

Mason Thomas for example - if we drafted him at #27 we are almost 100% passing on a lot of players that are simply better than him at a lot of positions.

AJ Haulcy
McNeil Warren
Iheanachor
Lawrence
Howell
Concepcion
Cooper Jr
McDonald
C. Miller
Bisontis
Pregnon
C Johnson

Cannot take him over any of the guys above which most of them would be there at #27. Better to trade up from #58 to #52 to get him if you liked him and get better value for #27 with guys from the list above - and even a few of those guys are slight reaches at #27. Just wait until all the EDGEs are gone but one and then make the trade up from #58 wherever that is.

Once all but one of Mesidor/Howell/Young/Lawrence/Jacas/MasonThomas are off the board then trade up.

Originally posted by Heroism:
I don't have a problem if they take Howell at 27. Flawed player, but that combo of juice and bend is for real. I like him even more if the 49ers are getting more of a Raheem Morris defense from ATL.

Howell - as I've been a broken record in saying and same as Mesidor - plays like an unhinged madman when you watch him. He's a guy you forget about the arm length and just need to unleash him in odd fronts from the inside and out and let him do what he does - sack and hunt the QB.

I'd be good with him at #27

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
If we draft Mason Thomas at #27 I'll just about blow a gasket. If going to make a huge reach better trade down first.

I think we fall in love with players and then make them first round picks just because they are one of our favorites.

I love Ted Hurst but I ain't drafting him at #27. I love Jalon Kilgore but I ain't drafting him at #27 or #58. I love Malik Benson but I ain't drafting him until the 4th.

I can accept Howell or Lawrence at #27 if they loved them. And I can accept Mason Thomas at #58 if they loved him - but not at #27.

Will be fun to see what slots these guys end up getting drafted.

im not sure how you think he is a huge reach he has better measurables than Howell and has similar pass rush win rate. His tape against Goosby was far better than Howell who was shut down against him and he also had a pretty good game against Proctor as well

They both have that first step and bend that is super desirable i think the difference is R mason it more unrefined but has better measurables than Howell. He may absoutly be the best speed rusher in draft in a lot of teams eyes. I think he is comparable to a Huff or a Dee Ford. He is the most explosive of this class for sure

He recorded a 92.6 PFF Game Athleticism Score last season, powered by 22 plays where he was clocked over 15 mph. Edge rushers usually don't have the runway to get up to such a speed so often.

Originally posted by ritz126:
im not sure how you think he is a huge reach he has better measurables than Howell and has similar pass rush win rate. His tape against Goosby was far better than Howell who was shut down against him and he also had a pretty good game against Proctor as well

They both have that first step and bend that is super desirable i think the difference is R mason it more unrefined but has better measurables than Howell. He may absoutly be the best speed rusher in draft in a lot of teams eyes. I think he is comparable to a Huff or a Dee Ford. He is the most explosive of this class for sure

He recorded a 92.6 PFF Game Athleticism Score last season, powered by 22 plays where he was clocked over 15 mph. Edge rushers usually don't have the runway to get up to such a speed so often.

I like them both, but how does RMT have better measurables than Howell? RMT's arms are about an an inch longer than Howell but both guys are t-rex armed; Howell wins in the 40 and 10-yard split; Howell is a taller and heavier athlete; Howell has bigger hands.

The big difference in my eyes are the medicals. RMT has been injured a lot in college while Howell has a clean medical sheet.

Originally posted by Heroism:
I don't have a problem if they take Howell at 27. Flawed player, but that combo of juice and bend is for real. I like him even more if the 49ers are getting more of a Raheem Morris defense from ATL.

What do you think of Parker?
I know you mentioned Lawrence , but as a guy in R1?