2025 Draft Prospect Watch List and Discussion

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Well agree to disagree man.

I think Matos is in for a big year if he stays healthy. We have always had success with these type of guys. Arden Key, Charles Omenihu etc. and I also believe Evan Anderson will be productive as a base NT in his 2nd year.

Bosa and Nolan side by side would be game wreckers.

Base D
DE- Yetur Gross Matos
NT- Evan Anderson
DT- Walter Nolan
DE- Nick Bosa

Nickle D
DE- Savion Jones
NT- Yetur Gross Matos
DT- Walter Nolan
DE- Nick Bosa

3rd unit
DE- Sam Okuayinonu
DT- Kevin Givens

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Well agree to disagree man.

I think Matos is in for a big year if he stays healthy. We have always had success with these type of guys. Arden Key, Charles Omenihu etc. and I also believe Evan Anderson will be productive as a base NT in his 2nd year.

Bosa and Nolan side by side would be game wreckers.

Base D
DE- Yetur Gross Matos
NT- Evan Anderson
DT- Walter Nolan
DE- Nick Bosa

Nickle D
DE- Savion Jones
NT- Yetur Gross Matos
DT- Walter Nolan
DE- Nick Bosa

3rd unit
DE- Sam Okuayinonu
DT- Kevin Givens

This is the worst DL in the NFL. The majority of this unit that'll make the team shouldn't make the final 53. At some point, you're forced to play Kalia Davis, Jordan Elliott, Kevin Givens, etc because the wide 9 is absolutely punishing and demanding on the DL due to the nature of how offenses attack it. Absolutely nothing was done to address the run with Miller's mock. Zero improvement against duo and inside zone with this roster. IDL would get mauled and worn down AGAIN next season. In fact, the run defense may have gotten worse than last year with this group because you've got a 290-pound rookie in the middle that won't be ready to physically endure the onslaught on duo blocks and combo blocks coming right at him for 17 games.

and keeping it real—if I'm Bosa, I'm asking for a trade next offseason. Enough with every OL sliding protection his way and being chipped every week with zero help.

Imagine trying to matchup with the Eagles and Lions' OL+running game with that small, weak DL. Offenses have been attacking the wide 9 with the same f**king plays for years now because the 49ers have completely neglected to beef up the interior DL. That draft would assure everyone's ass gets fired next offseason.

The Lions running the Duo run concept three times in a row behind Penei Sewell. pic.twitter.com/czSlSAVlWg

— Nate Tice (@Nate_Tice) January 29, 2024

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
and what do you suggest we do about it?

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Ya, I agree man. I mentioned that is why we cut Hargrave, Collins and Floyd.

But I'm not sure what we can do about it. Relying on a bunch of rookies isn't the best strategy. But it seems to be our only solution.

I'd love for us to sign Calais Campbell after the draft. He would immediately shore up our run D.

And for the record, this is the mock draft I posted in the sub forum

1.11- Derrick Harmon, DL- Oregon
6'4, 315

-Explosive 3T. Destroys double teams and wrecks one on ones. 39 pressures this last year. Instant starter who team will have to scheme away from. Put him next to Bosa to take on double teams freeing up Bosa with 1 on 1's. Let him attack gaps on passing downs and create pressures all game long.

2.43- Landon Jackson, DE- Arkansas
6'6, 265

-Elite run defender. Rangy and nonstop motor. He has improved every year. Day 1 starter and elite edge setter. The pass rush plan will come by year 2 and he will be a force.

3.75- Demetrius Knight, LB- South Carolina
6'2, 235

-Instinctive, sideline to sideline range. Big, tough and physical. Character, field dementor, leader.

3.100- Alfred Collins, DT- Texas
6'6, 330

-Best run defending DT in the class. 6'5, 330 pound immovable object who will demand a double teams. Instantly upgrades our brutal run D. Offers nothing as a pass rusher but that's not why I want him on this team.

4.113- Jordan Phillips, DT- Maryland
6'2, 315

-20 year old with arguably the most potential among the DT class. Elite explosion and dominant run defender. Not much of a pass rusher yet but when he puts it together he could be a game wrecker.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
You think so? I guess I need to watch more. Doesn't come off as very athletic on film (great RAS score) and his arm length for his size is underwhelming.

We need to come away with more than Nolen as a true DT (and he's a bit undersized).

Originally posted by NYniner85:
IMO Harmon is gonna be the pick, possible move down depending on who's will do come up and who else is available.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by genus49:

49ers haul

Will Johnson CB
Walter Nolen DT
Aireontae Ersery OT
Cameron Williams OT
Sai'vion Jones Edge
RJ Harvey RB
Thomas Fidone II TE
Cody Simon LB
Riley Leonard QB
Willie Lampkin C
Hunter Wohler S

Imagine going into the season with this current DL+ just Walter Nolen/Sai'vion Jones. Everyone is getting fired next offseason after fielding the worst run stopping DL in the NFL as well as Walter Nolen being looked as a bust after being underwhelming from getting few opportunities to rush the passer due to the pathetic run defense as well as being worn down from taking on an avalanche of double teams next to Jordan Elliot, Evan Anderson and Kalia Davis.

Originally posted by Since07:
That would be pretty underwhelming, he has good hand work with block shedding and awareness keeping track of the ball. He looks like a good run stopping DT but he's slow and lacks pass rush even power moves don't really see him pushing the pocket back. If I'm taking a DT at #11 I want him to be able to rush the passer or push the pocket

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Since07:
That would be pretty underwhelming, he has good hand work with block shedding and awareness keeping track of the ball. He looks like a good run stopping DT but he's slow and lacks pass rush even power moves don't really see him pushing the pocket back. If I'm taking a DT at #11 I want him to be able to rush the passer or push the pocket

Boy I don't thought he was a pretty disruptive as a pass rusher this yr. PFF has him top 3 in PRUSH grades. He had a 17.6%PRWR.

I'm not taking him at 11, trade down and I wouldn't be upset.

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Since07:
That would be pretty underwhelming, he has good hand work with block shedding and awareness keeping track of the ball. He looks like a good run stopping DT but he's slow and lacks pass rush even power moves don't really see him pushing the pocket back. If I'm taking a DT at #11 I want him to be able to rush the passer or push the pocket

Boy I don't thought he was a pretty disruptive as a pass rusher this yr. PFF has him top 3 in PRUSH grades. He had a 17.6%PRWR.

I'm not taking him at 11, trade down and I wouldn't be upset.

? Trade down and picking him up as a run stopper wouldn't upset me. Not at #11 though, you can say "pressure" but he lacks the acceleration to finish the job as a pass rushing DT. Especially in the nfl when QBs can get the ball out in half a second.

Originally posted by Since07:
? Trade down and picking him up as a run stopper wouldn't upset me. Not at #11 though, you can say "pressure" but he lacks the acceleration to finish the job as a pass rushing DT. Especially in the nfl when QBs can get the ball out in half a second.

• Derrick Harmon at 1.11 and move up to the end of round 1 with our 2 and 3 for Nic Scourton.
  
  

Originally posted by genus49:
I really hope we stay away from this guy.

No surprise to me but Tyler Warren did no testing or position drills at Penn State pro day this morning. I'll have the full story later.

— Tony Pauline (@TonyPauline) March 28, 2025

I know testing numbers don't change the player or what the put on tape but I really dislike this trend of players electing to avoid testing that's been done for years.