2024 Draft Class: IDL

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Byron Murphy, DT, Texas, is consistently the highest graded player that's available at 31 during my mock drafts.

Just curious, what would be the feeling around here if we drafted him with our first?

Byron Murphy leverage god pic.twitter.com/fEmcyMplzc

— Mike Golic Jr (@mikegolicjr) March 3, 2024

Byron Murphy literally won this game for Texas with his play down the stretch.

Here are 3 of his 4 final rushes on the afternoon. He hit a different gear and Kansas State just couldn't block him.

Explosive. Flexible. Powerful. pic.twitter.com/eGyitf0v5C

— Derrick (@Steelers_DB) February 28, 2024

Me too, wasn't sure if there were issues I was unaware of. went with him this morning then Van Pran in 2nd and Foster in 4/5. He is compared to ed Oliver so wouldn't hate it.

I don't think he will be there. Usually, at least one or two interior guys come off the board in the 20s. I'd be indifferent about the pick if that's how it shook out. Can never be mad at taking a supremely talented player, but redundancy would prevent him from being the largest net upgrade to the roster as a whole.

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
I don't think he will be there. Usually, at least one or two interior guys come off the board in the 20s. I'd be indifferent about the pick if that's how it shook out. Can never be mad at taking a supremely talented player, but redundancy would prevent him from being the largest net upgrade to the roster as a whole.

I mean, one of our biggest problems on the team besides pass blocking was stopping the run. Murphy can play 2I or 3tech.

I would hate to draft someone like Guyton over a player multiple tiers higher in Murphy.

Murphy would give us flexibility with AA and Hargrave too.

I feel like the more we reach for need the more we waste our picks. BPA as much as possible.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
I don't think he will be there. Usually, at least one or two interior guys come off the board in the 20s. I'd be indifferent about the pick if that's how it shook out. Can never be mad at taking a supremely talented player, but redundancy would prevent him from being the largest net upgrade to the roster as a whole.

I mean, one of our biggest problems on the team besides pass blocking was stopping the run. Murphy can play 2I or 3tech.

I would hate to draft someone like Guyton over a player multiple tiers higher in Murphy.

Murphy would give us flexibility with AA and Hargrave too.

I feel like the more we reach for need the more we waste our picks. BPA as much as possible.

I probably pigeonhole him as more of a one gap penetrating type than you do. I find his skill set in line with what Hargrave does for us.

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
I don't think he will be there. Usually, at least one or two interior guys come off the board in the 20s. I'd be indifferent about the pick if that's how it shook out. Can never be mad at taking a supremely talented player, but redundancy would prevent him from being the largest net upgrade to the roster as a whole.

I mean, one of our biggest problems on the team besides pass blocking was stopping the run. Murphy can play 2I or 3tech.

I would hate to draft someone like Guyton over a player multiple tiers higher in Murphy.

Murphy would give us flexibility with AA and Hargrave too.

I feel like the more we reach for need the more we waste our picks. BPA as much as possible.

I probably pigeonhole him as more of a one gap penetrating type than you do. I find his skill set in line with what Hargrave does for us.

He's really good at dropping his knee to split double teams… but to your point, he is undersized like Hargrave and how consistently can he use that technique in the pros? It is a concern for sure.

Weak class IMO for what we need. Need some different chess pieces. A big guy that just eats up blocks and can keep the linebackers flying. We arent going to find a better pass rusher then Hargraves and Armstead from the middle, so might as well plug in some beef on run downs and give those guys a spell. Perhaps better addressed in free agency or a mid/late round guy like Tyler Davis, Fabien Lovett, Jaden Crumedy.

Now I am re-checking this thread just in case we go DL in the first 2 rounds.

Could another Oregon defense lineman be taken in Brandon DURLUS to replace Armstead ?

Originally posted by jersey49er:
Could another Oregon defense lineman be taken in Brandon DURLUS to replace Armstead ?

He is a poor man's version of AA after all....

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:

Originally posted by jersey49er:
Could another Oregon defense lineman be taken in Brandon DURLUS to replace Armstead ?

He is a poor man's version of AA after all....

Can't really tell until he's actually on an NFL field

Originally posted by jersey49er:
Could another Oregon defense lineman be taken in Brandon DURLUS to replace Armstead ?

They should definitely look to infuse the DL with talent since there's literally nobody behind Hargrave at IDL except Kalia Davis.

But as for the starting 3tech spot, Armstead's spot is replaced by Hargrave sliding over. 49ers were playing their base defense with two guys that are natural 3 techniques. It was a one of the reasons the run defense stunk. Now, Hargrave can slide into the 3technique spot and the 49ers can finally find a true nose to play next to him.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by jersey49er:
Could another Oregon defense lineman be taken in Brandon DURLUS to replace Armstead ?

They should definitely look to infuse the DL with talent since there's literally nobody behind Hargrave at IDL except Kalia Davis.

But as for the starting 3tech spot, Armstead's spot is replaced by Hargrave sliding over. 49ers were playing their base defense with two guys that are natural 3 techniques. It was a one of the reasons the run defense stunk. Now, Hargrave can slide into the 3technique spot and the 49ers can finally find a true nose to play next to him.

Agree that's why I am very high up on McKinley Jackson or Dwayne Carter to

T'vondre Sweat out of Texas is a wide body that demands double teams and eats up the run. Our 1st might be too early for him and our second might be too late.

The more I watch Sweat, the more curious I become about him. I read a lot of criticism about him being late off the ball, but I wonder how much that is attributed to the scheme he's in. Texas is clearly running some type of read/react techniques with their front, and a lot of Sweat's stances are what we used to call balanced stances. This type of stance caters to run defense, moving laterally and isn't conducive to firing off the ball and generate get off.



This is a passing down, but he's still using a balanced stance.



He'd do the opposite here. Kocurek would stagger his stance, change his weight distribution and tell him to fire off the ball and get in that damn backfield. I wish we could run a simulator, change his stance/technique/eyes and see what he could do in an attacking 1-gap scheme like the wide 9 because I'm starting to think he could be leaving production on the field due to his scheme.

Oh yeah, if I was a GM and drafted this dude, I would have him drop at least 20 pounds. Dude looks like Gilbert Brown out there. There's no need to be 366.

Originally posted by Heroism:
They should definitely look to infuse the DL with talent since there's literally nobody behind Hargrave at IDL except Kalia Davis.

But as for the starting 3tech spot, Armstead's spot is replaced by Hargrave sliding over. 49ers were playing their base defense with two guys that are natural 3 techniques. It was a one of the reasons the run defense stunk. Now, Hargrave can slide into the 3technique spot and the 49ers can finally find a true nose to play next to him.

Completely agree. Hargrave goes back to his original position.