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Realistic Trade-Up Ceiling?

Realistic Trade-Up Ceiling?

Realistically how far up can the Niners trade up? Which teams do you predict as willing trade partners?
With 2 third rounders they can go to the mid third round. With all 3 third rounders they can go late second round.
Trade a 3rd, 5th, 7th and 3rd next year to move up to a mid 2nd, for who ? Best RT or S to challenge and groom. I like Darnell Wright from Tennessee or Antonio Johnson from Texas A&M, both might slip but drafting 1 of them would be a steal in the middle of round 2.
  • The proposals are worth it but is the value there? You aren't trading up for Pro Bowl caliber just to get higher in the 3rd or even into the 2nd.

It really boils down to are we better off with less picks or more after pick 98? Our track record says we'd be better off with more picks.

I think ultimately they will trade up if the right prospect falls.
There isn't a whole lot of difference between late 2nd and early 3rd as far as the quality of the player goes. It really comes down to how bad does the team want a certain player. Teams drafting at the end of the round are better and might be more willing to get some extra picks since they are probably looking more for depth.
If Sam La Porta or a starting caliber RT is available around pick 65-70 I'd trade two thirds and maybe a future third to go up and get him.
Originally posted by btthepunk:
If Sam La Porta or a starting caliber RT is available around pick 65-70 I'd trade two thirds and maybe a future third to go up and get him.

I'd rather give up a day 3 pick this yr and a future 3rd. We're gonna have a f**k ton of picks next yr too.
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Realistically the 70's is as high as we can get with just 2 3rds this year. Based off of recent trade history.

Only person I'd be willing to trade up to the 70's for would be Matthew BergeronOT | Syracuse.
[ Edited by krizay on Mar 18, 2023 at 10:12 AM ]
I don't see the value of going up to 2nd or early third unless there is a projected starter for our roster. The late thirds are valuable enough to find 3 players to make the roster on key units.

If anything, there is more value in trading for picks in following drafts when we will definitely need to infuse young contracts to offset losses and salary cap.

there will be project tackles, Starting caliber Centers, and good safeties and corners right at the end of the round, as well as TE's and d lineman. There is nothing and the end of the second or early third that makes me want to give getting 2 options at those positions for 1.
Originally posted by leonbanton:
I don't see the value of going up to 2nd or early third unless there is a projected starter for our roster. The late thirds are valuable enough to find 3 players to make the roster on key units.

If anything, there is more value in trading for picks in following drafts when we will definitely need to infuse young contracts to offset losses and salary cap.

there will be project tackles, Starting caliber Centers, and good safeties and corners right at the end of the round, as well as TE's and d lineman. There is nothing and the end of the second or early third that makes me want to give getting 2 options at those positions for 1.

We aren't gonna keep 11 rookies on this roster. We're gonna have a s**t ton of picks next yr as well between lost players and coach/GM comps.

I'd much rather move up for better players….doesn't have to be in the 2nd or anything. I'd give up a 3rd this yr and next to go get a guy we think will be a starting OT/CB or EDGE talent.

Originally posted by btthepunk:
If Sam La Porta or a starting caliber RT is available around pick 65-70 I'd trade two thirds and maybe a future third to go up and get him.
That sounds about right, 74th looks like a reasonable area we could get to and above that probably need to use a 2024 2nd rounder (which should be at the end of the round) and they probably go for RT
[ Edited by ChaunceyGardner on Mar 18, 2023 at 2:37 PM ]
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by leonbanton:
I don't see the value of going up to 2nd or early third unless there is a projected starter for our roster. The late thirds are valuable enough to find 3 players to make the roster on key units.

If anything, there is more value in trading for picks in following drafts when we will definitely need to infuse young contracts to offset losses and salary cap.

there will be project tackles, Starting caliber Centers, and good safeties and corners right at the end of the round, as well as TE's and d lineman. There is nothing and the end of the second or early third that makes me want to give getting 2 options at those positions for 1.

We aren't gonna keep 11 rookies on this roster. We're gonna have a s**t ton of picks next yr as well between lost players and coach/GM comps.

I'd much rather move up for better players….doesn't have to be in the 2nd or anything. I'd give up a 3rd this yr and next to go get a guy we think will be a starting OT/CB or EDGE talent.

I don't think they were coming from the perspective of we keep all 11. I think they would rather have multiple shots. It would take A LOT of picks just to move up to middle or top of the third, let alone 2nd. Given how well we do late in the draft, I think we'd be better off with the 11 picks than trading up unless some RT, FS, CB, or edge rusher is taking a major fall. As it stands right now, how many guys on the roster do you have as locks to make the team? It can't be over 42, which means a large portion of the rookie class has a chance.

Now if we are talking about your suggestion- a 3rd this year and next, that's reasonable provided an OT/CB/edge/or safety is available far later than expected. But I can't get behind packing multiple picks to move up to the top of the third or late second. There's so much talent available later in the draft and given the number of picks we have, I could see us hitting on 5 or 6 guys. If we are lucky 2 of those guys becomes the next Greenlaw/Kittle/Hufanga/Jones.

I'd also be willing to roll picks into next year because getting more and more talented guys on rookie deals will give us more and more flexibility with being able to extend our own guys or being free to let guys walk without wondering who is the next guy.
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Saints receive:

  • 2021 third-round pick (No. 76 DB Paulson Adebo)
Broncos receive: 2021 third-round pick (No. 98 OL Quinn Meinerz) 2021 third-round pick (No. 105 LB Baron Browning)


Saints receive:

» 2020 third-round pick (No. 74; Wisconsin LB Zack Baun)
» 2020 seventh-round pick (No. 244; later traded to Vikings)

Browns receive:
» 2020 third-round pick (No. 88; Mississippi State DT Jordan Elliott)
» 2021 third-round pick

Rams receive:

» 2019 third-round pick (No. 70; select RB Darrell Henderson)

Buccaneers receive:
» 2019 third-round pick (No. 94; select DB Jamel Dean)
» 2019 third-round pick (No. 99; select S Mike Edwards)

I seen no recent trades that allowed 2 3rds for a 2nd. Especially nit as far back as us
[ Edited by krizay on Mar 18, 2023 at 6:28 PM ]
Originally posted by leonbanton:
I don't see the value of going up to 2nd or early third unless there is a projected starter for our roster. The late thirds are valuable enough to find 3 players to make the roster on key units.

If anything, there is more value in trading for picks in following drafts when we will definitely need to infuse young contracts to offset losses and salary cap.

there will be project tackles, Starting caliber Centers, and good safeties and corners right at the end of the round, as well as TE's and d lineman. There is nothing and the end of the second or early third that makes me want to give getting 2 options at those positions for 1.

I see where you're coming from, and I was thinking the same thing. The problem is two fold:

1) Colton McKivitz is an unknown, and has almost no depth behind him at RT

2) The FO has consistently drafted "redshirt" players to groom future starters

Lacking a 1st or 2nd, I think Lynch is likely to grab the best possible RT, even if it's just for depth this year.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
There isn't a whole lot of difference between late 2nd and early 3rd as far as the quality of the player goes. It really comes down to how bad does the team want a certain player. Teams drafting at the end of the round are better and might be more willing to get some extra picks since they are probably looking more for depth.

This is accurate. Teams tend to want to trade into the first down mostly cuz you get the 5th year option. After that it's just about where you have guys graded.

I don't see the 49ers getting too nervous and making a huge move up but I guess it's possible if they have a guy ranked very high on their board and far above anyone else they have graded they make a serious move up.

If I'm putting money on it I think we move up into early/mid 3rd round for OL prospect. I can also just as easily see them trading down from 101/102 picks if they still have both by the time we get to 99 since our picks are so close together.

Hard to see us having a group of 3 guys we love there so a move up or down makes sense.
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