Who would you take if you were the 49ers GM? | Page 3

jacklegniner · 2021-02-17T12:27:47-08:00

I'm just curious because this is where my thoughts are going. I would first be ecstatic to add Zach Wilson, but I believe it's only a dream. Other teams love him just as much and I think the cost to get him is too much. I would also love Trey Lance but he also might be out of reach. For this poll let's says the QB's went too early and the trade up was too costly. And let's also say that no other team is offering us anything worthwhile to trade back so you have to make the pick. These are the players I'm debating on right now as of February 17th. Help me out with your thoughts and here are some of mine: Farley as of now is the better DB. I don't think we go DB with the pick but we will need a new crop of db's if FA doesn't go our way. Slater is versatile on the online and can take over tackle eventually and can plug in at guard right away. I'm never going to complain about upgrading the Oline or DLine and the 49ers are still very much a run first offense and we need to keep Jimmy or whomever upright. Waddle seems like a luxury pick but we have been drafting weapons like crazy lately. Speed kills and Waddle has plenty. With our Rb's and Kittle, Deebo and Aiyuk, our offense would be insane. Kind of out of the box but Shanny is looking to draft mismatches and scheme guys open. Ojulari is the edge rusher I am leaning towards but it's hard even for the experts to land on a overall consensus at edge this year. That's why I put an other option at Edge. I like Azeez because he has that explosion off the edge and seems like a Dee Ford type. putting him on our Dline makes a lot of sense. So what are your thoughts on these players?

Feb 18, 2021 at 8:49 AM

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Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Fair enough, I don't think so either, but the Panthers just might have fallen for him at the Senior bowl, and if they didn't should we really be drafting him 4 spots later?

I personally don't like the Mac Jones fit with Carolina. But obviously love his fit here.

Feb 18, 2021 at 9:43 AM

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I see this scenario playing out, except I can see Trey Lance being available at our pick and Kyle just not liking what he's seeing

. He wants a polished passer and probably won't have the patience for a raw toolsy prospect

I think Slater is the guy and he will kick inside to RG for now. After seeing the Salary Cap getting up to 180 million minimum and maybe more, I can see them resigning Trent Williams and Verrett so corner won't be as big of a need. Then go for Alex Mack.

Basically with a revamped OL, it will buy Garappolo another year of excuses. Is that the right move? I don't know. But if it isn't, they'll essentially be kicking the QB problem down another year

Feb 18, 2021 at 9:44 AM

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Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Fair enough, I don't think so either, but the Panthers just might have fallen for him at the Senior bowl, and if they didn't should we really be drafting him 4 spots later?

I personally don't like the Mac Jones fit with Carolina. But obviously love his fit here.

That's strange, Joe Brady using spread concepts and Teddy's skillset look like a fit to me.

8 is just far too high for me, but 12 is too rich as well.

Feb 18, 2021 at 11:04 AM

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Originally posted by Bitplayer:
At 12? I wanna say Waddle. He can stretch the field and we can get oline help in the second.

Free 6 points on a punt return- every now and again- wouldnt bother me all that much either

I normally play it safe with a first round pick but waddle is tempting. Would make a lot of mismatches on our offense if we have a QB that can stay healthy or get them the ball.

Feb 18, 2021 at 11:06 AM

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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
We have excellent starting WRs, talented RBs, and an All Pro TE . What we dont have is a dependable OL that can be consistent pass protectors and give Jimmy G the time he needs to be successful. If Williams leaves we are screwed if we dont take an OT early. Slater makes way too much sense to pass on him if he is available. He either starts at LT if Williams leaves or at RG if Williams stays.

If Williams leaves I would feel the same. I'm assuming the Niners find a way to keep him. Sounds insane to let one of the best leave especially when you gave up draft capital to trade for him.

If Williams stays I feel the interior could be upgraded later.

Feb 18, 2021 at 11:13 AM

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Originally posted by BOI49er:
How can a quarterback not be on this list? Even if we keep JG, we've proven we need a better bench.

And I think we either don't keep Trent William's or Jimmy Garoppolo, and Jimmy's the one we want to upgrade, so why lose so many long term players over a short term solution.

Trade up for a quarterback, or if we won't/can't, just take Jones.

I just didn't put QB on the list because I honestly believe that 3 Qb's are going in the top 4 pick's. Lance or Fields probably will be gone around 7 or 8. There's plenty of debate on the zone about trading tons of picks for a QB. If the Niners want to do that, that's fine with me but I knew if I put a QB or Kyle Pitts in the options, they would probably dominate the options.

I was just trying to see what the zone would do if all those options are off the table.

A lot of people will say trade back but you typically need a team wanting to come up and most of the time it's for a QB. The next QB is Mac Jones.

I like MAC but don't know if i'm sold on him at 12.

Feb 18, 2021 at 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by Ensatsu:
I see this scenario playing out, except I can see Trey Lance being available at our pick and Kyle just not liking what he's seeing . He wants a polished passer and probably won't have the patience for a raw toolsy prospect

I think Slater is the guy and he will kick inside to RG for now. After seeing the Salary Cap getting up to 180 million minimum and maybe more, I can see them resigning Trent Williams and Verrett so corner won't be as big of a need. Then go for Alex Mack.

Basically with a revamped OL, it will buy Garappolo another year of excuses. Is that the right move? I don't know. But if it isn't, they'll essentially be kicking the QB problem down another year

This is literally the scenario I see playing out which is why I did the poll.

What sucks is that if Jimmy doesn't stay healthy or improve... and we just kick the QB problem for another year... it just wastes the talent that you currently have and eventually can't afford. Bosa, Warner, Trent, Verrett, Aiyuk, deebo, etc...

They all get a year older and closer to bigger contracts. The following year you draft a QB and they are raw and have a ton of learning so probably no Superbowl there either. Now you've wasted 2 or 3 years and maybe by that time Shanny and Lynch are on the hot seat.

We need a QB that can run Shanny's system. I'm fine with Jimmy and think he can get it done. He's not elite like Mahomes but those Qb's are hard to find. My biggest frustration is Jimmy's health. If Lynch and Shannahan are wanting to run with Jimmy then they better have a real plan to get a legit backup QB.

Feb 18, 2021 at 11:35 AM

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Farley then slater

Mar 12, 2021 at 3:41 PM

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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2934865-2021-nfl-draft-ranking-the-top-future-franchise-cornerstones?ref=upstract.com&curator=upstract.com&utm_source=upstract.com

Pretty nice article on who they think are the cornerstone players in the draft.

Mar 12, 2021 at 3:48 PM

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If those were my only real choices, Slater or Ojulari. Both would be potentially high impact players as rookies. Slater could start at guard or tackle and has everything you need to excel in this blocking scheme. Ojulari is a great fit for a Wide 9 defense. He'd provided much needed speed off the edge across from Bosa. The combination of those two plus Kinlaw and Armstead would make life difficult for opposing OL's once more.

Mar 12, 2021 at 4:08 PM

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Slater. Don't see anyone else close in regards to speed rusher to compliment Bosa - which woulda been my top choice, but....

Slater it is.

[ Edited by RickyRoma on Mar 12, 2021 at 4:10 PM ]

Mar 12, 2021 at 6:45 PM

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It all depends on what we do in free agency and who we sign. I would probably take either slater or azeez ojulari or jaelan phillips. You build your team inside out and focus on the trenches. Defense line or offensive linemen.

Mar 12, 2021 at 7:42 PM

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I'm on Slater too. Not sure McGlinchy is getting that 5th year picked up. Slater plays inside for a season then takes over RT for as long as Trent is around. Or he stays inside. That's the versatility this guy brings.

[ Edited by kansasninerfan on Mar 12, 2021 at 7:42 PM ]

Mar 12, 2021 at 7:53 PM

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It's fine to pick Slater if you've graded him out at the same level as the others. If you're just doing it because we need OL help that's not cool.

I have Farley graded clearly above, so you take the best player, he has clear shutdown potential for me.

Mar 12, 2021 at 8:09 PM

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With these options? Slater. I love Farley but I'd be really nervous drafting CB in the first round. So many top drafted corners bust IMO.