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Apr 7, 2021 at 2:53 PM


but yes let's get a system QB
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Apr 7, 2021 at 2:57 PM ]
Apr 7, 2021 at 2:55 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:


Only 2 of these teams had real talent on them.
Apr 7, 2021 at 2:59 PM
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by NYniner85:


Only 2 of these teams had real talent on them.

If he didn't have a limited QB in those cases, he probably wins a lot more on a subpar roster.

how about we get a uber talent QB and throw him on a great roster that sounds like fun
Apr 7, 2021 at 3:23 PM
Originally posted by Joecool:
It's funny because all these analysts basing their opinion from watching film whereas all these NFL teams have scouts who actually go the games and follow these players for multiple years for a full and thorough evaluation.

This is one of the issues with one year QB's. Especially this year when they haven't been allowed to go to practices (which can be a great place to obtain information) I'm surprised that's not being mentioned regarding Mac Jones.
Apr 7, 2021 at 3:24 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
If he didn't have a limited QB in those cases, he probably wins a lot more on a subpar roster.

how about we get a uber talent QB and throw him on a great roster that sounds like fun

Like Houston did with Watson last season? 4-12?

A great QB on a really bad team still means you have a really bad team and Shanahan has been part of some really bad teams.
Apr 7, 2021 at 3:41 PM
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If you have Matt Ryan as your quarterback and you're still picking top 5, your team sucks.

He led the NFL in completions, pass attempts, threw for over 4500 yds and MORE TDs than ALL 49er QBs last year and the 49ers still won more games. The idea that a great QB can elevate a bad team is a myth.
Apr 7, 2021 at 3:42 PM
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Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
This is one of the issues with one year QB's. Especially this year when they haven't been allowed to go to practices (which can be a great place to obtain information) I'm surprised that's not being mentioned regarding Mac Jones.

He only threw like 72 less passes than Fields. That's like what a game and a half?
Apr 7, 2021 at 3:42 PM
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Originally posted by FL9er:
If you have Matt Ryan as your quarterback and you're still picking top 5, your team sucks.

He led the NFL in completions, pass attempts, threw for over 4500 yds and MORE TDs than ALL 49er QBs last year and the 49ers still won more games. The idea that a great QB can elevate a bad team is a myth.

Apr 7, 2021 at 4:57 PM
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by FL9er:
If you have Matt Ryan as your quarterback and you're still picking top 5, your team sucks.

He led the NFL in completions, pass attempts, threw for over 4500 yds and MORE TDs than ALL 49er QBs last year and the 49ers still won more games. The idea that a great QB can elevate a bad team is a myth.


Guess people that call it the most important position in all of sports are all just wrong then? Guess we traded 3 first round picks for just a guy who doesn't matter?

The potential for your team goes up exponentially the better your QB is.

If you're a 0-16 roster with a stud QB you'll probably end up looking like the Texans and being 4-12.

The Seahawks are an 8 or 9 win roster at best and Russell gets them into double digits.

We've got a very good roster with an even better coach, let's get the right QB and there's no stopping us.
Apr 7, 2021 at 5:06 PM
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Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Guess people that call it the most important position in all of sports are all just wrong then? Guess we traded 3 first round picks for just a guy who doesn't matter?

The potential for your team goes up exponentially the better your QB is.

If you're a 0-16 roster with a stud QB you'll probably end up looking like the Texans and being 4-12.

The Seahawks are an 8 or 9 win roster at best and Russell gets them into double digits.

We've got a very good roster with an even better coach, let's get the right QB and there's no stopping us.

It is the most important position in sports. That doesn't mean they elevate a bad team.

If Jameis Winston or Nick Mullens didn't turn the ball over their team wins more games. Doesn't mean they elevated anyone.

Apr 7, 2021 at 5:20 PM
Originally posted by FL9er:
If you have Matt Ryan as your quarterback and you're still picking top 5, your team sucks.

He led the NFL in completions, pass attempts, threw for over 4500 yds and MORE TDs than ALL 49er QBs last year and the 49ers still won more games. The idea that a great QB can elevate a bad team is a myth.

Fail to see how this means anything. What about a great QB on a good team? A bad QB on a great team? Why bother trying to get a great QB at all?
Apr 7, 2021 at 5:31 PM
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Like Houston did with Watson last season? 4-12?

A great QB on a really bad team still means you have a really bad team and Shanahan has been part of some really bad teams.

Wait was kyle coaching Watson?
Apr 7, 2021 at 5:32 PM
Apr 7, 2021 at 5:38 PM
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Originally posted by NYniner85:

Who's Kyle Wilson?
Apr 7, 2021 at 5:39 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:

Makes sense. Half the GM's are fired every year. Those 4 are going to the playoffs.
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