Justin Fields QB - Ohio State

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

I haven't seen anyone do this sort of thing so casually:

Fields was set and had a clear pocket. Perhaps you forgot to put on your boomer glasses, but the Mahomes gif has him throwing fifty yards off his back foot under pressure that hit him just after release, not from three yards away from the nearest defender with his feet set.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by WINiner:
As one of the few that was HUGE on Mahomes in his draft thread, quoted as stating "Mahomes is the only superstar QB in this draft", there were VERY few people pounding the table for him to be the pick @3 and almost universally patting each other on the back for the Thomas pick. I'd assume a Favre comp would have resulted in said pounding. The revisionist history on this forum.....

I for one watched Mahomes tape and fell in love but literally dismissed him as a candidate because he didn't fit Kyle's type. And instead was on the Peterman hype train.

I can't think of a bigger condemnation of Kyle's love for a certain type of QB than that.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
This class is certainly "generational." Lawrence can do a lot of what Fields can do, and Wilson can do some of what Mahomes can do.

But none of these guys are on the same level as the beat guy from 2017.

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

I haven't seen anyone do this sort of thing so casually:

Fields was set and had a clear pocket. Perhaps you forgot to put on your boomer glasses, but the Mahomes gif has him throwing fifty yards off his back foot under pressure that hit him just after release, not from three yards away from the nearest defender with his feet set.

No reason to embellish things. If you want to be a Mahomes homer go be a KC fan. Its not hard.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
This class is certainly "generational." Lawrence can do a lot of what Fields can do, and Wilson can do some of what Mahomes can do.

But none of these guys are on the same level as the beat guy from 2017.

Totally disagree...end of the day where this guys go will determine how high they can reach their ceiling. Same thing could have be said for Mahomes/Allen.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Why do people feel the need to compare players to greats? I'll say Fields is closer to Mahomes than Jones is to Brady.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Embellish? It's about observable reality. I'm a fan of MY EYES, which is why I argue these things.

Let me guess: you think Jimmy and Stafford are interchangeable as well, right? Who was the one saying Watson and Jimmy are about the same? Was that you?

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Fields will be fine from day 1. Mobile qb's can always fall back on their legs.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by flynhayn15:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:
That's my understanding too. The difference between 3rd, 4th, and 5th means to me that they envision any of the top 5 QBs as upgrades and worthy of the trade up. What we don't know was if the 3rd pick was specifically strategic or if it was pragmatic. At this point it doesn't matter. I honestly believe that because of the COVID restrictions, they didn't know exactly which QB they'd choose / prefer, but the initial scouting placed all 5 guys as worthy of the pick and worthy of at least next year's first round pick too. Also, part of the calculus was that next years QBs were not valued as high, so it was time to strike. And by moving up, it gave them adequate time to examine their options out in the open as opposed to in the shadows at #12.

Breer said they never offered anything for 4-5 and more or less was asking if they were willing to move down....my takeaway from that is they were seeing who wanted a QB in the top 5 and who was willing to move down for someone that may wanted a QB.

They along with Miami didn't shop their pick with any other teams...it was just a matter of Miami finding a 3rd team.

I can't wait for the draft to be done at this point lol

Or it could be that they wanted to go to 3, but Miami wasn't will to go back to 12 so they were checking with 4,5, and 6 to see who would be willing to go back to 12, and Philly was the only team. ????????‍??

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by tankle104:
but do you think Mahommes is a fair comparison for any QB prospect? Mahommes also has one of the most special passing abilities ever. He makes throws that are just unbelievable, every game. He has set records in his first few seasons etc.

My whole point is that I would take a special passing talent over a special running talent that can throw. I am not saying fields cant throw or anything like that - just making a general point. I'm going to root for and support whoever we select. The only Qb I would be disappointed in if we selected would be Lance, would still support him though.

As a prospect Fields is light years ahead of Mahomes coming out of Texas Tech. FIelds is literally a once in a generation prospect. That does not mean he is perfect & will not need to be coached in the NFL. But if he comes close to maxing out he is a top 5 QB easily.

Well if that is true, no need to worry about us signing him as the Jets will certainly take a "once in a generation " prospect.
Fields is a real talent. The "once in a generation" was taken by Andy Reid a couple yrs ago.

Talent is one thing...hyperbole another.

Originally posted by flynhayn15:

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by mayo49:
If Lance has a good second pro day, I'm might be jumping on the Trey bandwagon.

I'll be very excited with Fields. But, if Shanahan picks Lance - I'm gonna be beyond excited. Shanahan + Lance will wreck this league - in a similar way Reid and Mahomes have and will continue to do so.

What similarities do you see in Lance and Mahomes that lead you to that conclusion?

I would say Lance's college career is closer to Lamar Jackson's than it is to Mahomes. Lance looks like a better passer, but Lamar threw for more yards and more TDs against better competition on 2 different seasons, that Lance did in his 1.