49ers Options at #13: Someone's Gotta Drop

Originally posted by Ninefan56:

I hope that we can trade back to 16, get a second and third and still get the player that shanalynch wants. Draft fantasy is always hopeful.

Trading back from 13 to16 is likely to net us something like a low 3rd rounder. Depending on who we are targeting with #13, may not be worth it.

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by ChuckLeavy32:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by All22:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Derrick Brown or Javon Kinlaw. Replace Buckner with another stud. Our defensive line got us there. And they will get us back. We are not going far with a greatly reduced defensive line IMO. We will be way less good unless we fill that hole.

Fill the hole with Armstead and draft a true edge guy.

Armstead is not going to be nearly as good without Buckner by his side next season. Watch and see.

The defense can afford to give a little, weapons on offense are needed!

Yes. But I don't think we have the QB who can hit them anyway. So defense is our best bet.

Our d will still be top 5....our passing game needs way more help than the dl.

Thank you! Even great defenses get tired or bend a little. Team needs offense. No one that's a Niners fan thought the Chiefs we're out of that game for minute and it's because of that offense. Chiefs defense was good but it wasn't great just solid when they needed to be. Speed on Offense is needed!!!

Miracle Drops:

If any of these players drop to #13 by a miracle, these are no-brainer selections in order of value:

1. Edge Chase Young (Just can't pass up #1 edge rusher under any circumstances)

2. CB Okudah, Jeff (Would completely satisfy secondary needs for now and future)

3. OL Wirfs, Tristan (Perfect OL talent who can immediately start at OG then move to OT when Staley retires)

4. WR Jeudy, Jerry (second coming of a potentialy better version of Emanuel Sanders)

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

The 49ers are in a really nice place owning the #13 overall pick, and I'm not really worried at this point due to the plethora of options that should be available. Think about the number of teams that have needs at positions we're already set at -- QB, OT to an extent, RB, LB, S. Then look at all the options at other positions and players that should be on our board and in play with a top 15 pick. Discussion starts now:

1. Henry Ruggs-WR-Alabama
Ruggs is a quick-twitch monster with huge hands and simply unfair physical advantages.

2. Jeffrey Okudah-CB-Ohio State
Consensus top CB in this class.

3. Yetur Gross-Matos-DE-Penn State
Widely considered the 2nd best DE in this class after Chase Young.

4. Jerry Jeudy-WR-Alabama
Arguably the top WR in this class.

5. Ceedee Lamb-WR-Oklahoma
Also arguably the top WR in this class, depending on who you ask.

6. Derrick Brown-DT-Auburn
Arguably the top IDL in this class.

7. Javon Kinlaw-DT-South Carolina
Also arguably the top IDL in this class.

8. CJ Henderson-CB-Florida
Considered the #2 CB in this class by many.

9. KLavon Chaisson-EDGE-LSU
LB/DE Edge hybrid player similar to Dee Ford, considered a close 2nd behind Isaiah Simmons.

10. Cesar Ruiz-OL-Michigan
Skyrocketing draft stock, considered the best IOL in this class.

So, I've just listed 10 players right there who could be in play. Now consider the plethora of others in this class who are talked up as Top 15 picks:

QBs: Joe Burrow, Tua Tagovailoa, Justin Herbert, Jordan Love
RBs: JK Dobbins, Deandre Swift, Jonathan Taylor
OTs: Tristan Wirfs, Mekhi Becton, Jedrick Willis Jr, Andrew Thomas
LBs: Kenneth Murray, Isaiah Simmons
DE: Chase Young

That's 14 other prospects who are considered by just about everyone and their mama as Top 10-20 picks in this class. Someone will fall. We just have to be sure we get the right guy.

You had el guapo at "plethora"

Originally posted by ChuckLeavy32:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by ChuckLeavy32:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by All22:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Derrick Brown or Javon Kinlaw. Replace Buckner with another stud. Our defensive line got us there. And they will get us back. We are not going far with a greatly reduced defensive line IMO. We will be way less good unless we fill that hole.

Fill the hole with Armstead and draft a true edge guy.

Armstead is not going to be nearly as good without Buckner by his side next season. Watch and see.

The defense can afford to give a little, weapons on offense are needed!

Yes. But I don't think we have the QB who can hit them anyway. So defense is our best bet.

Our d will still be top 5....our passing game needs way more help than the dl.

Thank you! Even great defenses get tired or bend a little. Team needs offense. No one that's a Niners fan thought the Chiefs we're out of that game for minute and it's because of that offense. Chiefs defense was good but it wasn't great just solid when they needed to be. Speed on Offense is needed!!!

So true. Upgrading our passing game is priority number 1

The biggest question for me, is: What do we do if Kinlaw and Ruggs are both on the board at #13? Trade down and pick the one left over? Or take one and grab the other position at #31 with no trade. I think if there's 3 players we want at #13, we do trade down a little if we can.

Would we prefer Ruggs + Blacklock?

OR Kinlaw + Reagor?

Originally posted by Rathof44:
Never happens anymore, Barkley was the exception not norm.

Except for 5 RB's taken in the top 10 over the last 5 drafts.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

The biggest question for me, is: What do we do if Kinlaw and Ruggs are both on the board at #13? Trade down and pick the one left over? Or take one and grab the other position at #31 with no trade. I think if there's 3 players we want at #13, we do trade down a little if we can.

Would we prefer Ruggs + Blacklock?

OR Kinlaw + Reagor?

Option A

I wouldn't get emotionally attached to a specific player (too late), as you're just setting yourself up for disappointment.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
The biggest question for me, is: What do we do if Kinlaw and Ruggs are both on the board at #13? Trade down and pick the one left over? Or take one and grab the other position at #31 with no trade. I think if there's 3 players we want at #13, we do trade down a little if we can.

Would we prefer Ruggs + Blacklock?

OR Kinlaw + Reagor?

Option A

Easily A. Give Kyle some elite weapons. Heck, if we went Ruggs/Ruiz, they could use the remaining draft picks on defense for all I care.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

The biggest question for me, is: What do we do if Kinlaw and Ruggs are both on the board at #13? Trade down and pick the one left over? Or take one and grab the other position at #31 with no trade. I think if there's 3 players we want at #13, we do trade down a little if we can.

Would we prefer Ruggs + Blacklock?

OR Kinlaw + Reagor?

Option A

Easily A. Give Kyle some elite weapons. Heck, if we went Ruggs/Ruiz, they could use the remaining draft picks on defense for all I care.

Ruiz falling to 31 would be wishful thinking sadly, but if by some miracle he was there. A Ruggs + Ruiz combo and then all defense the rest of the way, say.. Murchison or Agim at DT with Robinson or Gipson at DE, I'd love that draft.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Ruiz falling to 31 would be wishful thinking sadly, but if by some miracle he was there. A Ruggs + Ruiz combo and then all defense the rest of the way, say.. Murchison or Agim at DT with Robinson or Gipson at DE, I'd love that draft.

This. Agim, Gipson, and a nickel CB in the late rounds, with Ruggs and Ruiz to start. Can push outside CB to the first pick next year, hopefully Brunskill looks like the LT of the future but can use 2nd round pick on a OT of not. Then get someone like Lawson in FA ideally to replace Ford

If all three top WR are gone at 13, I think they have to consider a developmental OT that can play a year or two at OG. Especially with the depth at WR this year. They could set up the Oline short term/ long term and still upgrade the WR spot.

I wonder if part of the reason Kitrle wasn't catching more passes in in the SB was because he HAD to help block?

Originally posted by Butter:
If all three top WR are gone at 13, I think they have to consider a developmental OT that can play a year or two at OG. Especially with the depth at WR this year. They could set up the Oline short term/ long term and still upgrade the WR spot.

I wonder if part of the reason Kitrle wasn't catching more passes in in the SB was because he HAD to help block?

That's a really valid point, the right OT prospect could add a boost to the offense getting one of the best threats at TE back to the job of threatening the defense.

I don't think they got rid of one of the better DTs in the league tho, to draft an OT at 13 and play him out of position while he waits to start. But they might very well might have wanted the freedom an extra pick gives them to target a tackle or guard at 31.

I personally still hope they package 13 and 31 with picks next year to get Young, baring that I really hope for Ruggs or Jeudy. There is a at least one mock i saw (CBS sports) that was showing Jeudy's stock dropping, they had him in the 20s.

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by Butter:
If all three top WR are gone at 13, I think they have to consider a developmental OT that can play a year or two at OG. Especially with the depth at WR this year. They could set up the Oline short term/ long term and still upgrade the WR spot.

I wonder if part of the reason Kitrle wasn't catching more passes in in the SB was because he HAD to help block?

That's a really valid point, the right OT prospect could add a boost to the offense getting one of the best threats at TE back to the job of threatening the defense.

I don't think they got rid of one of the better DTs in the league tho, to draft an OT at 13 and play him out of position while he waits to start. But they might very well might have wanted the freedom an extra pick gives them to target a tackle or guard at 31.

I personally still hope they package 13 and 31 with picks next year to get Young, baring that I really hope for Ruggs or Jeudy. There is a at least one mock i saw (CBS sports) that was showing Jeudy's stock dropping, they had him in the 20s.

I like the idea of trading for YOUNG,... but if you have the 2nd overall pick, would 13 and 31 be enough ???