What are the players you absolutely DO NOT want?

Jachai Polite... huge bust potential unless he slides to the 4th

Josh Allen in the top 4. There's no way I'd pick him ahead of Bosa or QW and Burns (and Sweat if his heart checks out) has a lot more potential as a pass rusher. Allen is the single most overhyped player in this draft class in my opinion ahead of Metcalf and Gary.

Rashan Gary, DK Metcalf, Nasir Adderley, Trey Downe,

Gary, Polite, Sweat

I'm pretty worried about how much attention the 49ers have shown to Gary and Sweat.

Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:

Josh Allen in the top 4. There's no way I'd pick him ahead of Bosa or QW and Burns (and Sweat if his heart checks out) has a lot more potential as a pass rusher. Allen is the single most overhyped player in this draft class in my opinion ahead of Metcalf and Gary.

I would argue sweat is far more overhyped due to his combine numbers than Allen.
Are you one of those guys who thinks Allen just relies on his athleticism and has no technique?

Originally posted by Quest4six:

I would argue sweat is far more overhyped due to his combine numbers than Allen.
Are you one of those guys who thinks Allen just relies on his athleticism and has no technique?

For me it was White, but we signed Kwon thank god
At this point I think Sweat-Gary-Burns

I meant to edit my old post^
Too lazy to fix this. You're all welcome

In the right spot i'd take about anybody.

My DO NOTS are...

DO NOT draft a WR in the 1st.
DO NOT draft a RB period.
DO NOT trade UP at any point of this draft, (unless you acquire some 6ths and 7ths and want to move up in say the 5th 6th for a particular player)
DO NOT take a DB anywhere before round 4. (unless 1st round talent falls for whatever reason. Then 3rd round is fine. ) At some point we need to see what we have in the secondary. That being said, if you decide to draft a FS (to actually play FS) then by all means.
DO NOT draft a kicker or punter

Originally posted by Quest4six:

Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:

Josh Allen in the top 4. There's no way I'd pick him ahead of Bosa or QW and Burns (and Sweat if his heart checks out) has a lot more potential as a pass rusher. Allen is the single most overhyped player in this draft class in my opinion ahead of Metcalf and Gary.

I would argue sweat is far more overhyped due to his combine numbers than Allen.
Are you one of those guys who thinks Allen just relies on his athleticism and has no technique?

No, I'm one who thinks he got a lot of low quality sacks. He has a good motor, is a good athlete, and beat slow offensive linemen off the edge in college. He's extremely versatile and can hold up in coverage, but a SAM isn't worth that much. I just don't see why anyone thinks Allen has a high ceiling as a pass rusher. He's not an elite athlete, he doesn't have great length for his height, and he has tiny hands.

Sweat killed the 40 and the agility drills at the combine and has a high ceiling by virtue of his length/strength even if he's more of a straight line athlete like Clowney (the combine doesn't suggest that, but tape does).

Allen is overhyped because people kept saying he had all this untapped potential going into the combine because he was an elite athlete. He's not. He's worth a top 15 pick because he's ready to play immediately, but he has the lowest ceiling as a pass rusher of the top edge prospects (Bosa, Burns, Sweat, Gary).

Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:

No, I'm one who thinks he got a lot of low quality sacks. He has a good motor, is a good athlete, and beat slow offensive linemen off the edge in college. He's extremely versatile and can hold up in coverage, but a SAM isn't worth that much. I just don't see why anyone thinks Allen has a high ceiling as a pass rusher. He's not an elite athlete, he doesn't have great length for his height, and he has tiny hands.

Sweat killed the 40 and the agility drills at the combine and has a high ceiling by virtue of his length/strength even if he's more of a straight line athlete like Clowney (the combine doesn't suggest that, but tape does).

Allen is overhyped because people kept saying he had all this untapped potential going into the combine because he was an elite athlete. He's not. He's worth a top 15 pick because he's ready to play immediately, but he has the lowest ceiling as a pass rusher of the top edge prospects (Bosa, Burns, Sweat, Gary).

Another measurables maniac.

He finished #2 behind bosa in upper body strength. And he plays linebacker. He ran a great shuttle too and very good 40. Bulked out At 263.He has elite footwork and drive for his size. Very smooth. And you are calling him a bust? Many more options for a dc with allen on the field than ANY other edge player including burns and bosa. You think gary and sweat are better prospects? Come on.

Originally posted by Quest4six:
I would argue sweat is far more overhyped due to his combine numbers than Allen.
Are you one of those guys who thinks Allen just relies on his athleticism and has no technique?

I'd rather have Allen then Sweat....just watching Sweats' film and doing bag drills you can see how stiff he is. He doesn't have "oily hips" that's for sure. Stupid athlete no doubt.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Quest4six:

I would argue sweat is far more overhyped due to his combine numbers than Allen.
Are you one of those guys who thinks Allen just relies on his athleticism and has no technique?

I'd rather have Allen then Sweat....just watching Sweats' film and doing bag drills you can see how stiff he is. He doesn't have "oily hips" that's for sure. Stupid athlete no doubt.

agree didnt look good at all.

Originally posted by krizay:
In the right spot i'd take about anybody.

My DO NOTS are...

DO NOT draft a WR in the 1st.
DO NOT draft a RB period.
DO NOT trade UP at any point of this draft, (unless you acquire some 6ths and 7ths and want to move up in say the 5th 6th for a particular player)
DO NOT take a DB anywhere before round 4. (unless 1st round talent falls for whatever reason. Then 3rd round is fine. ) At some point we need to see what we have in the secondary. That being said, if you decide to draft a FS (to actually play FS) then by all means.
DO NOT draft a kicker or punter

Those are pretty good. I wouldn't mind a FS pick in the 3rd round assuming it's Thornhill or Savage.

Definitely don't want to see Gary.

Sweat would be only an option for me if we trade down and end up outside the top 10. Love the size but the tape doesn't speak to me and I'm scared of guys who have to develop much in the NFL. Plus his heart scares me.

Josh Allen at #2 overall. Would rather get him on a trade down.

Rashan Gary, after trading back or at #2 overall would be a nightmare.

Isabella in the 2nd. Would rather take him in the 4th round.

Drafting any RB at all, when we already have a lot of them. Waste. And the RB class aint even good

Drafting a punter, or backup QB in the later rounds. Kicker is okay, since Gould is leaving next year. Deal won't get done.

As long as we go Bosa or QW, I'll be a happy camper. Anyone else will make me rage.

Round 2, if we take a safety I will throw the remote at my TV.

I'm ok with anything other than this.