Tell me I'm crazy: Trade down to six, pick DK Metcalf, then draft Brian Burns for EDGE

Who did it. 19th vote

Brian Burns would be long gone before we drafted again.

trade down is really smart, and smart is often confused with crazy -but not for a wr. Wr is like de/olb and are positions not worth wasting a top pick for. Best scenario would be to trade out and somehow come away with devin white and byron murphy. They will be the 2 best defensive players from this draft.

I'll say you are crazy, but not because of trading down and picking Metcalf, who I'm also a big fan of. But because you think Burns is going to last to the 2nd round. I don't see it. He's going top 15 at best.

Problem with trading down for a receiver is that people want an edge player. And the idea of coming away from the draft and FA with little to no competition at that position is horrifying to people. We are most likely going to strike out in free agency, or come away with very little. Already struck out on Brandon Graham.

Also....Shanahan wants to stick with his small receivers. I don't see him targeting a guy over 6 feet. Sorry. When we are near bottom again in red zone percentage again, most people will deflect it away again by saying its not the rosters fault.

I will be preparing myself to laugh at a lot of posters here who will probably start hyping up the "Dante Pettis #1 Receiver, breakout year" over the next few months. Not because I'm not a fan of Pettis. I hope he does well. But I don't see him as a #1. Most people will be stuck on the idea that Garrapolo will make our receivers look better like a Tom Brady, so I guess we will see.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Normally I'd agree, but then I look at how ridiculously deep this draft is with pass rushers and I re-evaluate my position. You do not see 6'3 WRs with his speed, explosiveness, body control and strength. 6 is too high, but some people are thinking about giving up the No. 2, No. 36 and next year's 1st for OBJ.

He's not Kevin White. I am confident he will be productive. If we land a quality edge in free agency, I think it might be worth the risk to draft an edge player from the second tier because of how deep this draft is at the position.

No one in their right mind is actually thinking SF should give up the 2nd, 36th and next yrs 1st for OBJ if they are they need to get slapped.

How are you confident he will be productive and isn't White?? You're making an assumption with no real facts to back it up.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Normally I'd agree, but then I look at how ridiculously deep this draft is with pass rushers and I re-evaluate my position. You do not see 6'3 WRs with his speed, explosiveness, body control and strength. 6 is too high, but some people are thinking about giving up the No. 2, No. 36 and next year's 1st for OBJ.

He's not Kevin White. I am confident he will be productive. If we land a quality edge in free agency, I think it might be worth the risk to draft an edge player from the second tier because of how deep this draft is at the position.

No one in their right mind is actually thinking SF should give up the 2nd, 36th and next yrs 1st for OBJ if they are they need to get slapped.

How are you confident he will be productive and isn't White?? You're making an assumption with no real facts to back it up.

Slapped a lot.

Originally posted by Ensatsu:
I'll say you are crazy, but not because of trading down and picking Metcalf, who I'm also a big fan of. But because you think Burns is going to last to the 2nd round. I don't see it. He's going top 15 at best.

Problem with trading down for a receiver is that people want an edge player. And the idea of coming away from the draft and FA with little to no competition at that position is horrifying to people. We are most likely going to strike out in free agency, or come away with very little. Already struck out on Brandon Graham.

Also....Shanahan wants to stick with his small receivers. I don't see him targeting a guy over 6 feet. Sorry. When we are near bottom again in red zone percentage again, most people will deflect it away again by saying its not the rosters fault.

I will be preparing myself to laugh at a lot of posters here who will probably start hyping up the "Dante Pettis #1 Receiver, breakout year" over the next few months. Not because I'm not a fan of Pettis. I hope he does well. But I don't see him as a #1. Most people will be stuck on the idea that Garrapolo will make our receivers look better like a Tom Brady, so I guess we will see.

They'd have to take some of that draft capital they got in a trade down and use it to move back up for Burns. He's not lasting until the 2nd. Both are top 20 picks IMO.

I see DK Metcalf and think Breshad Perriman

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Who are these high quality FA edges of which you speak? Brandon Graham was probably the top one expected to be available and he is now off the market.

The ones in his imagination.

Za'darius Smith or Houston via trade.

Originally posted by domingo:

Brian Burns would be long gone before we drafted again.

The scenario involves the Giants trading up to our No. 2. Do you think we'd just swap firsts with them for free? The idea is to use some of those resources to trade back into the first and pick up Burns.

Originally posted by theninermaniac:

I see DK Metcalf and think Breshad Perriman

I see Corey Davis, Courtland Sutton and Kevin White. All great prospects but didn't play up to their size.

Height, weight & speed helped them all get drafted early but none of these guys are that kind of player. Julio, Calvin Johnson, Mike Evans all dominated with their height weight speed.

These guys are just good WRs that happens to have the coveted trifecta. That's just my opinion.

Though i will say DK does have the release and is a good enough RR to be a very good WR. But i dont think he's worth a top 10 pick.

The difference between DK and say WRs who FIT OUR SYSTEM in rounds 2-4 is smaller, ALOT smaller than the difference between any edge we like in said 2-4 rounds. While there may be a couple decent ER to be plucked in those rounds there are a plethora of WRs who can produce at DKs level to be plucked in same range.

And that to me is why your crazy. You gained a starting G, CB or SAM with the trade down. Then gave it right back. Im all for a trade down from #2 if Bosa is gone. I would LOVE a trade down from 36 regardless of what we do at #2 TBH

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

I'll say you are crazy, but not because of trading down and picking Metcalf, who I'm also a big fan of. But because you think Burns is going to last to the 2nd round. I don't see it. He's going top 15 at best.

Problem with trading down for a receiver is that people want an edge player. And the idea of coming away from the draft and FA with little to no competition at that position is horrifying to people. We are most likely going to strike out in free agency, or come away with very little. Already struck out on Brandon Graham.

Also....Shanahan wants to stick with his small receivers. I don't see him targeting a guy over 6 feet. Sorry. When we are near bottom again in red zone percentage again, most people will deflect it away again by saying its not the rosters fault.

I will be preparing myself to laugh at a lot of posters here who will probably start hyping up the "Dante Pettis #1 Receiver, breakout year" over the next few months. Not because I'm not a fan of Pettis. I hope he does well. But I don't see him as a #1. Most people will be stuck on the idea that Garrapolo will make our receivers look better like a Tom Brady, so I guess we will see.

The idea is to use some of the resources the Giants send to get back into the first round. Also, I don't see Burns going in the top 15. Too many better players at the position ahead of him. I count at least three, maybe four.

As for tall wrs, it's not that Shanahan likes small guys, it's that he likes route runners. Metcalf has what it takes to be a really good route runner.





Also for the record I voted for crazy in the poll.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

No one in their right mind is actually thinking SF should give up the 2nd, 36th and next yrs 1st for OBJ if they are they need to get slapped.

How are you confident he will be productive and isn't White?? You're making an assumption with no real facts to back it up.

A former NFL scout (John Middlekauff) said that would probably be around the price.

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/123621-former-nfl-scout-believes-beckham-despite-giants-comments/



EDIT- How am I confident he will produce and won't be White? Many reasons. Among other things, Metcalf is a much better route runner and plays to his speed. Also, his arms are two inches longer, and his wingspan is ridiculous. White just ran a good 40 time.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
No one in their right mind is actually thinking SF should give up the 2nd, 36th and next yrs 1st for OBJ if they are they need to get slapped.

How are you confident he will be productive and isn't White?? You're making an assumption with no real facts to back it up.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
A former NFL scout (John Middlekauff) said that would probably be around the price.

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/123621-former-nfl-scout-believes-beckham-despite-giants-comments/

EDIT- How am I confident he will produce and won't be White? Many reasons. Among other things, Metcalf is a much better route runner and plays to his speed. Also, his arms are two inches longer, and his wingspan is ridiculous. White just ran a good 40 time.

Let me add to this that White had a 36.5 vertical, while Metcal had one over 40. And of course Metcalf was 4.33 compared to White's 4.35.

Doesn't sound so crazy now