Kyler Murray, QB OU

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
lol if az wants murray, there is no way in hell they drop a few spots to take him later

Especially with the Raiders lurking lol

Regarding the report that two teams have traded offers for Rosen...who do you think leaked that out 🤔AZ is trying like crazy to get as much as they can for him.

Originally posted by smithgdwg:

I think Arizona wants to trade the #1 pick to someone that wants Bosa so they can drop a few spots and pickup Murray.

The problem is that they are worried the 49ers are going to trade their spot to someone else that wants Murray.

I think they stay put and draft Murray.

Teams don't move up to #1 for anything other than a QB.

I just read that the Arizona line was rated dead last in pass blocking last year. We'll see how fast Murray is by the end of the year after being chased and hit by NFL players over 16 games. Good luck little fella.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I just read that the Arizona line was rated dead last in pass blocking last year. We'll see how fast Murray is by the end of the year after being chased and hit by NFL players over 16 games. Good luck little fella.

Even more reason to draft him. Would you rather have immobile Rosen behind a horrible offensive line or a guy who can do this?

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

I just read that the Arizona line was rated dead last in pass blocking last year. We'll see how fast Murray is by the end of the year after being chased and hit by NFL players over 16 games. Good luck little fella.

Hopefully bosa is doing a lot of the chasing and catching.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

The #AZCardinals offseason conditioning program begins today, and not only is QB Josh Rosen in the building… he was the first guy in the building for new coach Kliff Kingsbury.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 8, 2019

Wow so he's doing what he should be doing anyway

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

The #AZCardinals offseason conditioning program begins today, and not only is QB Josh Rosen in the building… he was the first guy in the building for new coach Kliff Kingsbury.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 8, 2019

Wow so he's doing what he should be doing anyway

No better than 6 wins with Rosen @ the helm again this year.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

I just read that the Arizona line was rated dead last in pass blocking last year. We'll see how fast Murray is by the end of the year after being chased and hit by NFL players over 16 games. Good luck little fella.

Even more reason to draft him. Would you rather have immobile Rosen behind a horrible offensive line or a guy who can do this?

This, Murray's ability to move around and scramble helps that s**tty OL. Also they can take that extra pick they'll get for trading Rosen to upgrade the OL

I will say it sucks, I don't want them to get Murray but there's nothing we can do about it end of the day. Would love Oakland to move up for Murray and AZ takes Allen at 4 haha

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

I just read that the Arizona line was rated dead last in pass blocking last year. We'll see how fast Murray is by the end of the year after being chased and hit by NFL players over 16 games. Good luck little fella.

Even more reason to draft him. Would you rather have immobile Rosen behind a horrible offensive line or a guy who can do this?

Rated dead last because the entire line was injured. If it was me I'd improve the line through the draft and obviously hope the entire line isn't injured again. But I'm in the minority and actually like Rosen as a prospect.

Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:

Rated dead last because the entire line was injured. If it was me I'd improve the line through the draft and obviously hope the entire line isn't injured again. But I'm in the minority and actually like Rosen as a prospect.

OL was piss poor no doubt.

Sam Darnold had a horrible offense and a s**tty OL...he played awful, but you could see glimpses of what makes him good especially the last couple games. Didn't see any of that with Rosen. Same s**t with josh Allen his stats were awful, so was his offense and OL BUT you saw glimpses of him being good.

Murray fits Kliff's scheme like a glove, he can mask some of the s**ttness of that OL.

I liked Rosen for Kyle's scheme not so much for KK. If I'm AZ I'm taking Murray and trading Rosen for 2nd & conditional pick in 2020. Build up the trenches on both sides with my 2nd rd picks. Then going for Emanuel Hall or Isabella in the 3rd for some serious speed.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

OL was piss poor no doubt.

Sam Darnold had a horrible offense and a s**tty OL...he played awful, but you could see glimpses of what makes him good especially the last couple games. Didn't see any of that with Rosen. Same s**t with josh Allen his stats were awful, so was his offense and OL BUT you saw glimpses of him being good.

Murray fits Kliff's scheme like a glove, he can mask some of the s**ttness of that OL.

I liked Rosen for Kyle's scheme not so much for KK. If I'm AZ I'm taking Murray and trading Rosen for 2nd & conditional pick in 2020. Build up the trenches on both sides with my 2nd rd picks. Then going for Emanuel Hall or Isabella in the 3rd for some serious speed.

I didn't watch enough or darnold or Allen to make the comp. So I can't say. Rosen looked lost at times last year. But i saw some good ball placement at times, just like in college. That team and play calling was a total mess . Even wasted a year of DJ who's a total stud.

Why wouldn't rosen be good for KK? Shotgun snaps and short slants all day? Perfect for Rosen.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
OL was piss poor no doubt.

Sam Darnold had a horrible offense and a s**tty OL...he played awful, but you could see glimpses of what makes him good especially the last couple games. Didn't see any of that with Rosen. Same s**t with josh Allen his stats were awful, so was his offense and OL BUT you saw glimpses of him being good.

Murray fits Kliff's scheme like a glove, he can mask some of the s**ttness of that OL.

I liked Rosen for Kyle's scheme not so much for KK. If I'm AZ I'm taking Murray and trading Rosen for 2nd & conditional pick in 2020. Build up the trenches on both sides with my 2nd rd picks. Then going for Emanuel Hall or Isabella in the 3rd for some serious speed.

Did either of them have their OC fired after six games?

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

The #AZCardinals offseason conditioning program begins today, and not only is QB Josh Rosen in the building… he was the first guy in the building for new coach Kliff Kingsbury.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 8, 2019

The Murray to the Cards dream is basically dead at this point. They're committed to Rosen.