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Apr 5, 2019 at 7:43 AM

KamLeon
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
ESPN's ⁦@JordanRaanan⁩ confirms Giants are "not in love" with Josh Rosen and will only take a shot if "price is right" (3rd-round pick). Would mean G-Men have little interest in Kyler Murray (too short), Dwayne Haskins (immobile), and now Rosen. https://t.co/snOoDWVJwv
— John Daigle (@notJDaigle) April 4, 2019

So they're targeting Drew Lock, I see. Ok cool, just need a 1st, 2nd and 3rd next year on top of #6 this year to move up to #2 to get him

Apr 5, 2019 at 7:45 AM

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NYniner85
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Originally posted by KamLeon:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
ESPN's ⁦@JordanRaanan⁩ confirms Giants are "not in love" with Josh Rosen and will only take a shot if "price is right" (3rd-round pick). Would mean G-Men have little interest in Kyler Murray (too short), Dwayne Haskins (immobile), and now Rosen. https://t.co/snOoDWVJwv
— John Daigle (@notJDaigle) April 4, 2019

So they're targeting Drew Lock, I see. Ok cool, just need a 1st, 2nd and 3rd next year on top of #6 this year to move up to #2 to get him

Lol I love the hope

....go look at gettleman and his past, dude isn't moving up never has.

Apr 5, 2019 at 7:47 AM

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NYniner85
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Originally posted by genus49:
Giants are either really trying to push the leverage thing or they're really that clueless.

And lol at Haskins being immobile but apparently Eli Manning is?

It's all a game right now, gettleman is a moron and I don't expect him to make the right choice.

If they draft Daniel jones at 17 I'm gonna 😂

Apr 5, 2019 at 7:55 AM

#1504

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Originally posted by KamLeon:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
ESPN's ⁦@JordanRaanan⁩ confirms Giants are "not in love" with Josh Rosen and will only take a shot if "price is right" (3rd-round pick). Would mean G-Men have little interest in Kyler Murray (too short), Dwayne Haskins (immobile), and now Rosen. https://t.co/snOoDWVJwv
— John Daigle (@notJDaigle) April 4, 2019

So they're targeting Drew Lock, I see. Ok cool, just need a 1st, 2nd and 3rd next year on top of #6 this year to move up to #2 to get him

For the Redskins, pursuing Josh Rosen presents the rare intersection of talent, need and value. That doesn't happen often.
https://t.co/okB7Jn5M8k

Per Todd McShay on the First Draft Podcast today, the Redskins are the team most interested in Cardinals QB Josh Rosen.

And that if they trade for him, the deal would be this:

Redskins get: Josh Rosen
Cardinals get: Pick #15

[ Edited by 49er_Rider on Apr 5, 2019 at 7:56 AM ]

Apr 5, 2019 at 8:54 AM

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I don't think the Cards pass up a chance to pair Johnson with Murray. They have some decent talent at WR to really take the chains off that offense.

Apr 5, 2019 at 9:24 AM

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genus49
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Originally posted by 49er_Rider:

Originally posted by KamLeon:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

ESPN's ⁦@JordanRaanan⁩ confirms Giants are "not in love" with Josh Rosen and will only take a shot if "price is right" (3rd-round pick). Would mean G-Men have little interest in Kyler Murray (too short), Dwayne Haskins (immobile), and now Rosen. https://t.co/snOoDWVJwv
— John Daigle (@notJDaigle) April 4, 2019

So they're targeting Drew Lock, I see. Ok cool, just need a 1st, 2nd and 3rd next year on top of #6 this year to move up to #2 to get him

For the Redskins, pursuing Josh Rosen presents the rare intersection of talent, need and value. That doesn't happen often.
https://t.co/okB7Jn5M8k

Per Todd McShay on the First Draft Podcast today, the Redskins are the team most interested in Cardinals QB Josh Rosen.

And that if they trade for him, the deal would be this:

Redskins get: Josh Rosen
Cardinals get: Pick #15

If the Cards can pull that off then kudos to them. I'd hope Washington isn't stupid enough but who knows.

Murray and whoever Cards get at 15 will be a great way to recover from moving away your QB you just traded up for to take at 10 last year.

Apr 5, 2019 at 9:32 AM

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Originally posted by genus49:
If the Cards can pull that off then kudos to them. I'd hope Washington isn't stupid enough but who knows.

Murray and whoever Cards get at 15 will be a great way to recover from moving away your QB you just traded up for to take at 10 last year.

I don't see Rosen for the 15th overall pick as stupid for DC at all. He's better than jones, lock, and jones imo.

Outside of WR that roster is actually pretty solid. Alex smith isn't coming back and they'd be even dumber rolling with Keenum all yr imo. Rosen's salary fits perfect with Washington having to still pay Smith as well.

Would be a great move for AZ.

the whole they moved up for Rosen stuff is a bit overblown...they gave up two day 3 picks last yr. not a ton of high end future picks.

[ Edited by NYniner85 on Apr 5, 2019 at 9:35 AM ]

Apr 5, 2019 at 9:32 AM

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So much smoke being blown around these QBs!

Apr 5, 2019 at 9:36 AM

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Originally posted by Joecool:
I don't think the Cards pass up a chance to pair Johnson with Murray. They have some decent talent at WR to really take the chains off that offense.

Like who? Fitz is ancient, a good slot receiver at this point and Kirk looks like a potential #2 WR. Beyond that.......

Apr 5, 2019 at 9:41 AM

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I cannot imagine the Redskins giving up the 15th pick for Rosen. I can see a team giving up a high second at most.

Apr 5, 2019 at 9:53 AM

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Originally posted by Cisco0623:
I cannot imagine the Redskins giving up the 15th pick for Rosen. I can see a team giving up a high second at most.

It's such a unique scenario that I wouldn't be surprised to see conditional picks involved.

Apr 5, 2019 at 9:55 AM

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Joecool:
I don't think the Cards pass up a chance to pair Johnson with Murray. They have some decent talent at WR to really take the chains off that offense.

Like who? Fitz is ancient, a good slot receiver at this point and Kirk looks like a potential #2 WR. Beyond that.......

That's why they're gonna draft your boy Isabella at 33

Apr 5, 2019 at 10:01 AM

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Originally posted by Cisco0623:
I cannot imagine the Redskins giving up the 15th pick for Rosen. I can see a team giving up a high second at most.

Why not? I think you could easily argue Rosen is better than any qb not named Murray in this draft. They have nothing a QB outside of Keenum who should be a backup. If their plan is to draft a qb at 15 why not just take Rosen?

They have like 11 picks this yr and without question their biggest need is QB. Throw in Rosen's contract is cheap as hell for the next 3 yrs, it makes perfect sense imo. I'd do that in a heartbeat if I was DC. Maybe I'd try to ask for a 4th or something back just to spice it up

Apr 5, 2019 at 10:05 AM

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Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by genus49:
If the Cards can pull that off then kudos to them. I'd hope Washington isn't stupid enough but who knows.

Murray and whoever Cards get at 15 will be a great way to recover from moving away your QB you just traded up for to take at 10 last year.

I don't see Rosen for the 15th overall pick as stupid for DC at all. He's better than jones, lock, and jones imo.

Outside of WR that roster is actually pretty solid. Alex smith isn't coming back and they'd be even dumber rolling with Keenum all yr imo. Rosen's salary fits perfect with Washington having to still pay Smith as well.

Would be a great move for AZ.

the whole they moved up for Rosen stuff is a bit overblown...they gave up two day 3 picks last yr. not a ton of high end future picks.

Stupid in a sense of leverage. Giving up #15 overall for a QB a team clearly doesn't want even if it's a smart move seems like a bad move.

I'd think their 2nd round pick and a conditional pick next year can get it done.

Apr 5, 2019 at 10:10 AM

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Originally posted by NYniner85:
I don't see Rosen for the 15th overall pick as stupid for DC at all. He's better than jones, lock, and jones imo.

If he can have the crap season he just had and still be worthy of the next year's #15 pick -- given the highly-regarded talent that will still be there @ #15 in this year's draft -- then hell, they should keep him.

[ Edited by random49er on Apr 5, 2019 at 10:11 AM ]