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Originally posted by Heroism:
It's really tough to say because Saleh seems to have his own archetypal Leo(stouter/bigger body). If we're talking the classic speed-demon, 6'3", 250-260 lbs Pete Carroll Leo(Cliff Aril/Chris Clemons/Bruce Irvin), then I'd say Polite and Allen fit the bill best.




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Yup, that looks like the classic leo to me.

[ Edited by Heroism on Dec 24, 2018 at 6:03 PM ]
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
I'll be surprised if Brian Burns even goes in the first. He needs to weigh 250 to even have a shot.

We can only hope to be so lucky. Give me Murphy+Burns and I don't care who else they get.

Murphy and Burns would be a nice 1-2 combo. So, you're saying the Niners take Murphy at pick 2 or 3 with Burns lasting till the top of the 2nd round?
That seems a little optimistic.
Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
Murphy and Burns would be a nice 1-2 combo. So, you're saying the Niners take Murphy at pick 2 or 3 with Burns lasting till the top of the 2nd round?
That seems a little optimistic.



Or they move up a few spots into the late 1st to take him.
Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
I'll be surprised if Brian Burns even goes in the first. He needs to weigh 250 to even have a shot.

We can only hope to be so lucky. Give me Murphy+Burns and I don't care who else they get.

Murphy and Burns would be a nice 1-2 combo. So, you're saying the Niners take Murphy at pick 2 or 3 with Burns lasting till the top of the 2nd round?
That seems a little optimistic.

A trade down would be amazing for that scenario
Is there any chance the Jets end up with a lower SOS than us? The math is too confusing to me
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Is there any chance the Jets end up with a lower SOS than us? The math is too confusing to me

Yes.
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Is there any chance the Jets end up with a lower SOS than us? The math is too confusing to me

We basically want Cowboys and Falcons to win next week just to make sure
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Is there any chance the Jets end up with a lower SOS than us? The math is too confusing to me

Yes. I'd say 50/50 at this point.
Just noticed CB Justin Layne from Michigan state had declared for the draft. Him and Bryce Hall are "my guys" for day 2 CBs
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by evil:
What does 3-5 look like if we are talking LEO's only?

It's really tough to say because Saleh seems to have his own archetypal Leo(stouter/bigger body). If we're talking the classic speed-demon, 6'3", 250-260 lbs Pete Carroll Leo(Cliff Aril/Chris Clemons/Bruce Irvin), then I'd say Polite and Allen fit the bill best.

I'm wondering if this is more of a function of available talent. It seems our D-line is like Seattle's from 2010-2012. Remember when Red Bryant was playing DE? In 2013 they added Cliff Avril + Michael Bennett and that was the end of that. I'm hoping we can make a similar move. Brandon Graham + Bosa/Polite/Burns from the right side and then Blair/Street + maybe Thomas from the left side.
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
I'm wondering if this is more of a function of available talent. It seems our D-line is like Seattle's from 2010-2012. Remember when Red Bryant was playing DE? In 2013 they added Cliff Avril + Michael Bennett and that was the end of that. I'm hoping we can make a similar move. Brandon Graham + Bosa/Polite/Burns from the right side and then Blair/Street + maybe Thomas from the left side.

You're probably right. I guess we'll find out for sure this offseason.

And I'm completely on board with your offseason edge plan. Graham, Impact rookie, Kentavius Street, and Ronald Blair should be a significantly improved edge group. Maybe a day 3 SPARQ edge with traits to develop for the practice squad.
Originally posted by Heroism:
My pre-Bowl Games/Senior Bowl/Combine top-5 edge rankings:

1 Nick Bosa

2 Brian Burns
3 Clelin Ferrell
4 Chase Winovich
5 Zach Allen


Love it! I trust Hero when it esp. comes to identifying ER talent.
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
I'm wondering if this is more of a function of available talent. It seems our D-line is like Seattle's from 2010-2012. Remember when Red Bryant was playing DE? In 2013 they added Cliff Avril + Michael Bennett and that was the end of that. I'm hoping we can make a similar move. Brandon Graham + Bosa/Polite/Burns from the right side and then Blair/Street + maybe Thomas from the left side.

You're probably right. I guess we'll find out for sure this offseason.

And I'm completely on board with your offseason edge plan. Graham, Impact rookie, Kentavius Street, and Ronald Blair should be a significantly improved edge group. Maybe a day 3 SPARQ edge with traits to develop for the practice squad.

Yeah, and Saleh likened Red to AA so he seems inline with that mold. It seems like he might be more influenced by the bigger lineup in Jacksonville over Seattle?

I guess we'll find out soon.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
I'm wondering if this is more of a function of available talent. It seems our D-line is like Seattle's from 2010-2012. Remember when Red Bryant was playing DE? In 2013 they added Cliff Avril + Michael Bennett and that was the end of that. I'm hoping we can make a similar move. Brandon Graham + Bosa/Polite/Burns from the right side and then Blair/Street + maybe Thomas from the left side.

You're probably right. I guess we'll find out for sure this offseason.

And I'm completely on board with your offseason edge plan. Graham, Impact rookie, Kentavius Street, and Ronald Blair should be a significantly improved edge group. Maybe a day 3 SPARQ edge with traits to develop for the practice squad.

Yeah, and Saleh likened Red to AA so he seems inline with that mold. It seems like he might be more influenced by the bigger lineup in Jacksonville over Seattle?

I guess we'll find out soon.

Jacksonville fell off a cliff fast though. Pete has sustained success even when experience heavy roster change. Have to give him credit for running a nice program and I'd entifying players who will fit. I'm more curious "what" he's doing right vs others etc.
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