Quinnen Williams, DT Alabama

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Still think a trade down is the best scenario (outside of Bosa) if Williams is the pick so be it

I dont see how the 49ers can draft Williams without moving Solly back outside, unless they move Buck outside. Which obviously would be a shame.

PHX already answered that awhile back. Paraphrasing , he said, don't worry about Solly or AA. Worry about obtaining a rare pass rusher, one of a kind. Let the rest take care of itself.

Also as an aside, collegians still ahve until Jan 15th to declare....so Herbert and Haskins are still in it. Grier too.

You'd have to understand most fans don't want to hear we'd draft another DT. People want an ER and have been tempted by Bosa all year. Williams isn't just any DT. He's a dominant prize like Bosa in the draft. You have to take him and make it work. We were interested in Foster and he should be available. Street and Taylor will be the big end. You trade Armstead and Thomas. Use those picks to move up for Polite or Bush. The main point where fans will be pissed is if ER is ignored. If we add Williams and ER talent, people will be happy and our line will be sick. I just focused on Williams in the first half of last night's game that I saw. He was in the backfield constantly. Gotta get puck no 2

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

PHX already answered that awhile back. Paraphrasing , he said, don't worry about Solly or AA. Worry about obtaining a rare pass rusher, one of a kind. Let the rest take care of itself.

Also as an aside, collegians still ahve until Jan 15th to declare....so Herbert and Haskins are still in it. Grier too.

Thats how you end up like Matt Millen, you cant draft the same position in the 1st round every year while rebuilding.

Unless they admit now that Solly is a bust and trade him I dont see the 49ers drafting Williams. Theres already a log jam on the DL Day, Taylor and Jones can all play. Street could be a beast at big end.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by Stanley:
This makes no sense at all lol. Who's double teaming Buckner in this case? It's not difficult to find a big body who can set the edge either.

Newsflash, bunch of edge rushers in free agency too. Imagine that

There's no one worth a d in fa and you know it. We'll end up with Graham who is a good compliment but as a premiere guy has flopped. If you're scared of a Graham, Buckner, Q, Solly line I don't know what to tell you other than be prepared to be disapointed.

Your mind is severely limited as to what a dominant DLINE looks like. To say that there is no one in free agency that is far superior to what we have now is proof of that.

What is your motive to deny something so apparent??? Bosa? Allen?

Originally posted by Stanley:

Your mind is severely limited as to what a dominant DLINE looks like. To say that there is no one in free agency that is far superior to what we have now is proof of that.

What is your motive to deny something so apparent??? Bosa? Allen?

You don't find Mack in free agency. The best you're going to get is someone like Graham who is alright pending how he's used. Maybe you get Fowler and his questionable personality.

My motive starts at not drafting 4 dt's in 5 years as that's laughable bad draft history and it ends with wanting an edge.

Originally posted by GMniner805:

I dont see how the 49ers can draft Williams without moving Solly back outside, unless they move Buck outside. Which obviously would be a shame.

You don't base your draft plans around thomas, especially since he hasn't proven anything.

Move him outside because who cares. He will probably compete with Kentavius Street and AA for snaps at big end.

If Solly was Aaron Donald type player, then yea this pick would suck. But as far as Im concerned we still have a soft d line, even with a lot of resources on the interior

The way things are looking, this thread might become irrelevant in under 2 hours.

Originally posted by Heroism:

The way things are looking, this thread might become irrelevant in under 2 hours.

Yea he's probably going to the Jets.

Originally posted by Heroism:
The way things are looking, this thread might become irrelevant in under 2 hours.

Yup. I didnt like our chances going into todays games. Dallas will be sitting their starters in the 2nd half, Atlanta has quit, and those were the Niners best chance.

Josh Allen come on down.

Originally posted by Heroism:

The way things are looking, this thread might become irrelevant in under 2 hours.

Depends. If Arz trades that pick, Bosa goes 2, we're still here.

This might happen:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
No way we're addressing the interior D-line in the 1st round of the 2019 draft. We're more likely to ransom it for picks or pick Bosa if he's available.

And if you can't get either?

Do you then reach for a player or take the guy with All Pro upside?

Then we trade down for more picks. And I don't advocating for reaching, upside be damned. And I certainly won't advocate for 49ers losses either (but that's a different discussion). For the first time I am hoping hard that we trade out of our first pick (if Bosa isn't there).

But spending on the interior of our D-line in hopes of attracting a two doubles, hoping that our meager edge rushers can get 1-on-1 with a RB or TE because they routinely cannot get around OT's is, IMHO, a terrible misuse of draft resources. Our defense wasn't suffering due to lack of of interior play. Plus, Lynch and Shanny & Co. aren't gonna just give up on Solomon Thomas after spending a 1st on the guy last year, #3 overall no less. They made the mistake of drafting him with an eye on making him an edge rusher. That has really stunted his production. However, as of late they seem to have abandoned that experiment and have been using him in his more natural position - on the interior - and he's been shinning there. I think they recognize that error and will seek to let him develop at the position he dominated in at Stanford.

So for me, drafting at the DT position really makes no sense. I understand that Quinnen Williams is a new draft crush for many here due to his performance last night against Oklahoma (who BTW really had no earthly business in that game except to serve it up for Alabama, but I digress). But we still have to draft sensibly. And addressing the DT position with our 1st pick of the 2019 draft, when we've done so in 2017, isn't sensible drafting, especially when that 2017 #3 overall pick hasn't been put in the best position to succeed.

Did you say Soloman Thomas is shining?

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Originally posted by GMniner805:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

PHX already answered that awhile back. Paraphrasing , he said, don't worry about Solly or AA. Worry about obtaining a rare pass rusher, one of a kind. Let the rest take care of itself.

Also as an aside, collegians still ahve until Jan 15th to declare....so Herbert and Haskins are still in it. Grier too.

Thats how you end up like Matt Millen, you cant draft the same position in the 1st round every year while rebuilding.

Unless they admit now that Solly is a bust and trade him I dont see the 49ers drafting Williams. Theres already a log jam on the DL Day, Taylor and Jones can all play. Street could be a beast at big end.

It's out there, and PHX added move Solly to Big end.

I'll also add that many have posted that AA works better in 3-4