Chase Winovich - DE Michigan

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

I'm talking about context your favorite subject in Gary's forum but here you wanna ignore context and just point out better numbers. Winovich is a good player but he isn't in the same league as Bosa.

I am not saying he is as polished. All I'm asking for is to compare them. I just want to see how far is Winovich from the best player projected a #1 pick.

They're both white and play DE.

Originally posted by Alfienator:

They're both white and play DE.

I wana see the snap count... There's a point I am making.. Bosa wasn't even the best player on his team. I don't even think was an every down player.

I want to see their snap count because body of work does matter, No?

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

I'm talking about context your favorite subject in Gary's forum but here you wanna ignore context and just point out better numbers. Winovich is a good player but he isn't in the same league as Bosa.

I am not saying he is as polished. All I'm asking for is to compare them. I just want to see how far is Winovich from the best player projected a #1 pick.

How many downs does Bosa plays? What's his snap count compared to Winovich. To be honest Bosa isn't even the best player on that defense.

I think Chase will be a 2nd round pick depending on the combine. If he has an impressive combine I could see him going in the first. But Bosa is a special kinda player. If you wanna argue Chase is potentially better than Ferrell I would absolutely be on your side.

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Originally posted by Alfienator:

They're both white and play DE.

I wana see the snap count... There's a point I am making.. Bosa wasn't even the best player on his team. I don't even think was an every down player.

I want to see their snap count because body of work does matter, No?

I agree body of work does matter. I guess the bigger question is why is Bosa the consensus #1 player in the draft and Chase isn't. Million dollar question right there.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

I think Chase will be a 2nd round pick depending on the combine. If he has an impressive combine I could see him going in the first. But Bosa is a special kinda player. If you wanna argue Chase is potentially better than Ferrell I would absolutely be on your side.

I just want to see their body of work or snap count. Bosa isn't even the best player on that defense and I think he wasn't an every down player for that school.

I maybe wrong but I would like to see the snap count.

Originally posted by Alfienator:

I agree body of work does matter. I guess the bigger question is why is Bosa the consensus #1 player in the draft and Chase isn't. Million dollar question right there.

Draft busts do happen... I would take a every down player vs a situational player? I am not saying he is as polished.

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

I think Chase will be a 2nd round pick depending on the combine. If he has an impressive combine I could see him going in the first. But Bosa is a special kinda player. If you wanna argue Chase is potentially better than Ferrell I would absolutely be on your side.

I just want to see their body of work or snap count. Bosa isn't even the best player on defense and I think he wasn't an every down player for that school.

I maybe wrong but I would like to see the snap count.

I can't find a snap count currently.

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Originally posted by Alfienator:

I agree body of work does matter. I guess the bigger question is why is Bosa the consensus #1 player in the draft and Chase isn't. Million dollar question right there.

Draft busts do happen... I would take a every down player vs a situational player? I am not saying he is as polished.

So you're saying you would take Chase instead of Bosa?

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

I can't find a snap count currently.

I would appreciate that. Thanks I really am curious.

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

I'm more concerned with the fact that in 2017... Chase Winovich has better numbers than Bosa.

Is he lying? Chase doubles Bosa in tackles.. Is he lying or are those numbers a lie. To be honest that's all I am concerned with as should everyone else?

I care more about the film, then I do about looking at stats alone. I care how guys get those sacks/pressures. Like I said if you're going down that road to pump up someone else (or deflate someone else) why isn't Sutton Smith looked at as the overall top prospect? His numbers indicate he must be?

I like chase, I prefer him over Gary based on value but he's not on the level as Bosa. Imo he's overachieved based off some of his limitations (athleticism/length/not very flexible etc).

His ceiling isn't to the level as Bosa, just isn't. That doesn't mean I wouldn't love to have him in SF because overall I like him a lot.

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Originally posted by Alfienator:

I agree body of work does matter. I guess the bigger question is why is Bosa the consensus #1 player in the draft and Chase isn't. Million dollar question right there.

Draft busts do happen... I would take a every down player vs a situational player? I am not saying he is as polished.

Well I would take an impact player vs an every down player.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

I care more about the film, then I do about looking at stats alone. I care how guys get those sacks/pressures. Like I said if you're going down that road to pump up someone else (or deflate someone else) why isn't Sutton Smith looked at as the overall top prospect? His number indicate he must be?

I like chase, I prefer him over Gary based on value but he's not on the level as Bosa. Imo he's overachieved based on some of his limitations (athleticism/length/not very flexible etc).

His ceiling isn't to the level as Bosa, just isn't. That doesn't mean I wouldn't love to have him in SF because overall I like him a lot.

I hear ya but body of work does count, durability does count.

I never said they had the same ceiling but I am interested in their body of work.

Rashan Gary and Chase Winovich are every down players. Bosa isn't.

I agree chase doesn't have a higher ceiling but I think Rashan Gary has a higher ceiling than Bosa. He has allthe physical attributes to be a star.

Rashan is going to turn heads at the combine.

Who is better that Bosa on that team?

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
I just want to see their body of work or snap count. Bosa isn't even the best player on that defense and I think he wasn't an every down player for that school.

I maybe wrong but I would like to see the snap count.

How about you do the research and bring it here. It would be interesting to see.

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:

Who is better that Bosa on that team?

I think Chase Young. Dude is going to be a beast. Look at the numbers when Bosa was out. He dominated at times.