MadDog49er 2018 NFL Draft Review | Page 6

MadDog49er · 2018-04-29T07:44:49-07:00

Another fun year of player evaluation. The draft has wrapped, and teams are celebrating their haul of new players. We will learn much about the new Niners over the days and weeks and years to come. So, how did the team perform when on the clock? Here is my yearly post-draft analysis Couple notes: I do not count the value of current NFL players acquired with draft selections, nor traded for draft choices. In that vein, Jimmy G and Trent Brown are not value added or lost. Nor do I attach value to UDFA added to the roster. I simply analyze the picks being chose while the team is on the clock. Pick 9- Mike McGlinchey, RT, Notre Dame- The Niners went into the draft clearly shooting for need, and the need to was replace Trent Brown at RT. Brown had outperformed his draft selection, but was out of shape, and the Niners clearly want more athleticism on the line. McGlinchey checks that box. A tall, strong, intelligent, athletic player, with a good head on his shoulders, McGlinchey checks off many of the boxes you want in a RT. There is a LOT to like. Here is my issue with the pick- The Niners were drafting in the 9th slot. Three QBs were selected above them. That means the team is picking the 6th best non-QB in this draft....and McGlinchey is not close to being the 6th best non-QB in this draft. The player selected above him, Roquan Smith, was worthy of a top 8 selection. That was a good use of draft capital. The Niners selected someone who is a better choice somewhere in the mid-late first round at best. In that the team fielded numerous phone calls about moving down and passed, that is a shame. It looks like the team would like to groom McGlinchey to move to LT as Staley's replacement. While McGlinchey was a solid run blocker, he struggled against speedy and athletic edge rushers in numerous games last year, some at critical moments. To me, he is surely not a LT. He is a good RT. The team has a huge hole to fill with a defensive leader, a captain, a signal caller, the heart and soul of the defense for the next _________ years. We didn't have that person before the draft, and we don't have it after the draft. If the team is not moving up to ensure Roquan Smith, they might as well drop down to select Leighton Vander Esch, who they could have picked up, with extra draft assets. The Niners fell into the classic draft trap. Never take need over talent. Talent and need must intersect to create value. Draft grade for McGlinchey: C- Pick 44- Dante Pettis- WR, Washington- The McGlinchey pick was only a warm-up for possibly the most boneheaded pick in the NFL draft (minus the Browns picking Antonio Callaway and the Pats selecting one of the worst college QBs in the draft). Catch this- the Niners traded UP 15 slots to select WR12 on my board. Pettis was the 4th WR selected in this draft. The team believes he is better than Anthony Miller, better than James Washington, Michael Gallup, DJ Chark, and on and on. Pettis had 63 catches in 13 games (less than 5 catches per game), and only one game over 100 yards in 2017 (105 yards against Oregon State). The line for his last 6 games: 1 catch, 12 yards; 4 catches, 87 yards; 5 catches, 41 yards; 6 catches , 94 yards; 2 catches, 15 yards; 1 catch, 40 yards. A whopping 1.5 catch average in his last 2 college games. Impressive!!! I get that Pettis is a really good return guy. Is he worth the 44th pick, sacrificing a third rounder in the process? That is insanity. This pick is insanity. So, while we watch Anthony Miller churn 7 catch, 100 yard games, let's sit back and enjoy a skinny 4th or 5th WR on our roster standing on the sidelines. This pick is going to haunt us for a LONG, LONG time. Draft grade for Pettis- F- (If there was a lower grade, I would assign it) Pick 70- Fred Warner, Will backer, BYU- Back to sanity. Warner is a nice value player in this slot. Was not at the top of my board at 70, but a really solid Will backer. He is athletic, mature, smooth on the field, Can cover a lot of ground. I think he looks better on the field than he plays (his productivity was inconsistent, especially in his final 5 college games), but he adds an ability that we need in a rangy 3 down backer who has very good coverage skills. I do not think he can play the Mike position effectively. He is built like a Will, and needs room to run. I believe the team wants him to play the Mike for some time until Foster returns (if he does return). He was a team captain, which is a big plus for him. No off the field issues- bigger plus. Draft grade for Warner- B Pick 95- Tarvarius Moore, CB, Southern Mississippi- Moore was a draft climber after a good 2017 season and exceptional offseason, where he had the chance to show off his athleticism. He played free safety at Southern Miss, and had a productive year, but it seems the team wants to move him to corner. JUCO transfer and one year starter, so he is still pretty raw. Moves really well on the field. Moore is going to be a good special teamer in Year One. I don't think he will play much in 2018, but has the chance to develop and get more time in 2019. This is a developmental pick, with some upside. This is more of a boom or bust pick. I am not sold on it being great value, even though this is about the spot where I believe he would be selected, based on his athleticism. Draft grade for Moore- C+ Pick 128- Kentavius Street- DT/DE, NC State- Street was a compact, powerful, thick-legged DE for NC State. Ultra-strong lower body, and hard worker on and off the field. Ruptured his ACL in a private workout, so he will be a redshirt this year. 38 tackles, 6.5 sacks in 2017. Really looked good in the Shrine practices this offseason, and was rising up draft boards. Is a tweener as a DE and DT. Teams will have to decide if they want him to be a strongside DE or 3 technique DT. To me, he is a rotational guy that doesn't have great burst, but someone who can hold an edge. More of a line of scrimmage player, so there is little dynamic to his game. This pick cam way too early. I thought he had a 50-50 shot of being drafted due to the ACL. The team must have some plan in mind for him, but he won't be able to do anything on the field, or with the scour team this season. The value is about right if he is healthy. With the redshirt year, this is NOT good value. Will Richardson and Josh Sweat were the two next players selected, and both have superior upside. So, if you are going to take a risk, take a risk. Draft grade for Street- D Pick 142- DJ Reed- Slot Corner, Kansas State- Reed was a very good college corner for Kansas State, even though he is barely 5'9". He is loose-hipped, has smooth change of direction skills, is fiesty, and will compete on each play. Excellent special teamer with superb kick return skills. It is clear that Lynch and Shanahan are prioritizing special teams in this draft. Athletic with a SPARQ percentile at 63 percent. Probably will get some field time as a dime corner in 2017, and maybe some nickel snaps as well. Solid, dependable, reliable. For a fifth round pick, he adds value to a team. Were there better pure corners out there? Sure. But, the team will get some use of Reed. Is he a starter? No. Draft grade for Reed- B- Pick 184- Marcell Harris, Strong safety, Florida- Did not play last year due to a torn Achilles last summer. I believe I counted 9 career starts, but a fair amount of playing time. Finished the 2016 season well with over 70 tackles. Was not able to work out this offseason, so we have no idea what his athletic profile is at right now. My guess is that the team will have to discover what they have sometime over the summer. Another head-scratcher to me. I simply don't have much to add. Nobody does. I believe he will be a special teamer who the team tries to get on the practice squad and develop. Microscopic chance of making the 53 for 2018. Draft grade for Harris- D Pick 223- Jullian Taylor, DT, Temple- One of the more intriguing guys in the NFL draft because he has very little playing experience, and limited productivity, Was a part time starter at Temple last year at DT. Collected a TON of frequent flier miles this offseason because everyone want to see this dude face to face. Two reasons why he was drafted- His final game against UCF was incredible- 10 tackles, 4.5 for loss; and his offseason workout- 4.94 at 6'4", 294 is impressive, as was his 10 yard split of 1.63. Long-armed, fluid body movements on the field. The guy is an athlete. This pick is a boom or bust pick. Zero chance he makes the 53 in 2018. Headed to the practice squad to see if he can develop over time. Draft grade for Taylor- C Pick 240- Richie James- Slot WR- Middle Tennessee St- Ultra fun-too-watch little spark plug slot receiver, James was like a video game machine the past two seasons. Giant productivity. This season was cut short by two injuries, but he is the type of slot receiver that will be a blast to watch in preseason games. Short at 5'10", but fiesty. Short area quickness is exceptional. In 2016, 7 of his last 8 games had 100+ yards receiving. So, he knows how to get it done. Will compete for a backup slot role in 2018. Draft grade for James- A In the end, I cannot be blind to my allegiance to the Niners. I have to be honest. I don't have any regrets over my analysis, nor do I revisit the players after the draft and tack on added value because they are wearing Niners' gear. If you handed me an envelop before the draft with a team in the 7-12 draft slot, and gave me these three players for four top 74 picks: McGlinchey, Pettis, Warner, I would say that draft was a total dumpster fire. So, I am saying today, this was a total dumpster fire. In the end, the Niners will pick up this in the draft: A starting RT, a possible starting Will backer, and a bunch of guys standing on the sidelines. To me, that is not good value with the draft capital we had entering the draft. None of these guys are going to be team captains who will be the face of the defense, none are going to rush the passer. We needed both of these...... and still need both of these. Let me compare with a team that got this draft right. The Cowboys, picking 10 slots lower, picked up a starting monster Mike backer, (in LVE) a starting LG that could be a RT (Connor Williams), and a starting WR.(Michael Gallup). All were picked lower than the Niners, all are better than the Niners' players selected, and with only three picks, not four which the Niners started the weekend with, and squandered in the Pettis trade. The Bears got Roquan Smith and Anthony Miller. I would trade that in heartbeat for the four picks that we originally had, and three selections we made. Overall draft grade for the Niners in 2018: D-. The Pettis trade and selection was the breaker. Without this disaster, the grade for me would probably be a C+/ B-. I honestly hope I am horrifically off on my analysis and all the Niners pick become All Pros and future Hall of Famers. I just got to call it like it is for today My Draft- 9- Leighton Vander Esch- Boise State- Starting Mike backer, defensive team captain. The team should have accepted one of these offers to drop down (I am guessing one team was the Cardinals at 15) and made the selection there. My draft position, stated pre-draft, is to trade down if Roquan goes off the board before them, The Niners could have traded, gained assets, and still picked up a stud player, like LVE. Drafted at 19 by the Cowboys. 44- Connor Williams- Texas- Starting left guard. Connor is everything the Niners want in an interior lineman: strong, but agile, Light on his feet, Williams was a bargain at 44. Of course, the Niners did trade up from 59. losing pick 74 in the process. Drafted at 50 by the Cowboys. 70- Ogbonnia Okoronkwo- Oklahoma- Starting Sam backer/rotational pass rusher- The Niners need a pass rusher and Obo is best pushing forward. He was selected later than expected, so this pick did not have great draft value, but he will make up for it with a solid NFL career. Measurables very similar to Yannick Ngakoue. 95- Harrison Phillips- Stanford- Nose tackle- Strong as a house (42 reps at 225), and ultra productive at Stanford(100 tackles), Phillips would have been the eventual replacement at NT for Earl Mitchell. Picked in the next selection, 96, by the Bills. Crazy late third round value. 128- Tyler Conklin- Central Michigan- Tight End- Strong productivity at Central Michigan, Conklin had a solid Senior Bowl week, and an outstanding Pro Day. SPARQ score of 72 percent shows excellent athleticism. One of the better blocking TEs. Selected by the Rams with the Vikings with the 157th pick. 142- John Kelly- Tennessee- RB- Kelly is a good-sized (5'10", 216) running back that breaks tackles and falls forward. Caught 37 balls in 2017, so he can be used on all three downs. Survived the year behind an dreadful OL, but still was productive. Very good rotational back. Selected by the Rams at 176. 184- Cedrick Wilson- Boise State- WR- 1,000+ yard receiver the previous two years, Wilson is still developing as a WR, and shows big play ability. Had a solid Senior Bowl week, and has family roots with the 49ers, as his dad played with them. Selected by the Cowboys at pick 208. Cowboys looking at my board...we share three picks. 228- Akrum Wadley- Iowa- Running Back- Wadley is strictly a value pick at this point. Just like Kelly, Wadley may not be the best athlete, but teams get every ounce of energy from him. Can use him in a myriad of formations out of the backfield, Wadley is a tough football player. Was not selected in the 256 picks. 240- Trey Quinn- SMU- Slot receiver- The Niners picked James, which was solid. I went for the man who caught 114 balls for 1236 yards and 13 TDs. Quick, with great hands, Quinn is a guy seemingly always open on the football field. Was selected as Mr. Irrelevant. Final Note: One main rule I have for myself to stay honest: I have to make the pick while the team is on the clock. I post the picks on the running draft thread. This way, I can't cherry pick after the draft to maximize draft value. In some cases, my selections were right before another team's pick (Phillips at 95; he went 96). In other cases, I was way off where my player was selected (Obo at 70; he went 160). You may agree or disagree with my analysis. Let's revisit this 5 years down the road over a cold one, and get a good laugh either way. Thanks for a great draft year to all. Cheers,- MD

Apr 29, 2018 at 2:44 PM

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Originally posted by LottOfDefense:

Originally posted by 21SandersMoss84:
It shows just how much Shanny was lusting after Pettis, to secure the pick with such a bold trade. Hopefully the fans will get to find out why he was sought after by the HC.

Let's hope because we are still waiting on Joe Williams who Shanahan had to trade up for.

Guys are going to hit and miss all the time in the draft. That is why all GMs eventually get dumped. The best ones simply hit more than others. It is witchcraft!

Apr 29, 2018 at 2:47 PM

#77

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Originally posted by JamesGatz83:
We would've been in bad shape at RT with your draft. McGlinchey at 9 isn't really a reach when you consider the Raiders were almost guaranteed to grab him at 10.

It was not a reach, but not good value. If the Raiders are dumb enough to pick him at 10, then it doesn't make it automatically a good pick.

Case in point: The Browns picked Antonio Callaway in the fourth round. Kid is always smoking weed, getting into trouble. If the team behind him is ready to pull the trigger, it doesn't mean the Browns are let off the hook. It is not good value to toss a 4th rounder on a guy who will never play.

My argument is about value, not reach. McGlinchey was simply not the 6th best non-QB in this draft. Not close.

[ Edited by MadDog49er on Apr 29, 2018 at 2:48 PM ]

Apr 29, 2018 at 2:49 PM

#78

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Originally posted by mayo49:
Way too early to grade until they've played a couple of years. Even, the great MadDog must be patient.

It is all fun and games. And, you are right. Nobody knows until then. Still ok to have an opinion.

Apr 29, 2018 at 2:50 PM

#79

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Originally posted by Oilcan:
Originally posted by CRABTREE:
So if we didn't trade and the Packers took Pettis with the next pick and he's what Shanahan thinks he is, then what would everybody say? Packers were ready to go get him.

No Packers where NOT going to take him. They said he was #2 on there board at that time and they took there #1 guy Jackson. Now if we took Jackson they very well could have taken Pettis.

Maybe I misread it, but it sounded like a reporter asked if the 9ers moved ahead of them to get Pettis before they could and Guhk-whatever said that wasn't the case, and that they had an A grade on Jackson, implying they didn't have an A on Pettis, but still thought Pettis was a good player.

My takeaway from that comment is that it was all mealy-mouthed GM speak: we got the guy we wanted, but don't want to offend by making anything but a milquetoast statement about the guy someone else jumped ahead of us to pick.

FWIW I also think the "jump ahead of" narratives in the draft — particularly after the 1st round — are a little over-cooked. A lot of times teams are trying to trade with a whole bunch of teams in the general area they have a guy valued in, not just trying to jump in front of the next team all the time. We saw a glimpse of this last year with Foster when Lynch said he started in the late teens offering the same deal to everyone to move back up for him if he was there. He just didn't get a yes until he got to the Seahawks, who by chance happened to be the team to finally say yes right before Foster was going to go to the Saints (Which Payton is now trying to backtrack on given Foster's troubles and that they nailed they're pick with Foster gone).

[ Edited by PopeyeJonesing on Apr 29, 2018 at 2:52 PM ]

Apr 29, 2018 at 2:51 PM

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Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:
LVE had neck fusion surgery. Lets see how long he lasts in the NFL. He could have a short career if you ask me because linebackers take a lot of beating game in and game out.

We will see. 5 teams flagged him, which means they dropped him down their boards. 27 teams did not flag it, which means no concern. The combine medical gave him a 4 out of 5 score for health, which is solid. Medicals did not impact him. I think some teams are more worried about him being a 1 year wonder, and others simply had different draft needs (like the Niners). Need over value is a slippery slope when bypassing better talent.

Apr 29, 2018 at 2:52 PM

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Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by PopeyeJonesing:
Not sure where you saw MD claiming to have a crystal ball, nor claiming that his post-draft thoughts will reflect reality multiple years out — instead he goes out of his way to make clear this isn't the case. How are we to trust you that he is "blind" and "stupid" when by your own claims we definitely shouldn't be listening to you and your opinions?

If grading a draft on Sunday is "irrelevant" just skip the thread.

If you are grading a player before a player even has his jersey number that would be predicting the future. Again, your personal mock draft is not an accurate way to assess a teams actual draft. Its biased from the beginning and lack all of the factual information that would be needed to properly assess this draft class early. The only to do that would be gather all of NFL teams data (not possible) or wait......most accurate.

i think more importantly would be to assess how they may fit into the teams scheme and do they seem like good character guys willing to focus and work hard. ie Mc. Glinchey.

Some players motivations stops at the NFL and some are just starting.

Can you build me a time machine so I can get this 100% right?

Apr 29, 2018 at 2:53 PM

#82

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Originally posted by dj43:
MD, as always, thanks for your sterling work. Having your list available during this time adds a good deal of value (value pick ) to the forum.

Personally, I think Pettis' performance in two years will soften the blow of the price paid. We shall see.

Thanks, my friend. Hope Pettis is a 10 time All-Pro.

Apr 29, 2018 at 2:53 PM

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Originally posted by MadDog49er:
It was not a reach, but not good value. If the Raiders are dumb enough to pick him at 10, then it doesn't make it automatically a good pick.

Case in point: The Browns picked Antonio Callaway in the fourth round. Kid is always smoking weed, getting into trouble. If the team behind him is ready to pull the trigger, it doesn't mean the Browns are let off the hook. It is not good value to toss a 4th rounder on a guy who will never play.

My argument is about value, not reach. McGlinchey was simply not the 6th best non-QB in this draft. Not close.

For most teams he may not have been. However, for the 49ers, given Staley's age and Brown's weight, contract and inability to pass block in our system, McGlinchey probably was the 6th most important player for them to select. Much more important, I would argue, than taking Fitzpatrick or James as an example.

Apr 29, 2018 at 2:54 PM

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Originally posted by CRABTREE:
Dante Pettis with Shanahan and Jimmy G will crush the nfl. He'll be the #1 Wr in this class.... Get your popcorn 🍿 ready

I am ready.

Apr 29, 2018 at 2:55 PM

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Originally posted by 49ERGLENN:
And the majority of the so called experts, Kiper and Co. all give the Niners a solid B for this draft! I'll take that any day of the week! But none of these players have strapped on a helmet or put on pads in the NFL yet, so we'll see! As they say they all have potential! Which means no one on any team has done anything yet! Again we'll see, and I actually like this draft the more I read about the players! We disagree MD and that's okay because it's okay to disagree in life!

Yes it is.

Of course, Kiper has the worst grade inflation in the world. I want to sit in his class.

Apr 29, 2018 at 2:57 PM

#86

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Originally posted by MadDog49er:

Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:
LVE had neck fusion surgery. Lets see how long he lasts in the NFL. He could have a short career if you ask me because linebackers take a lot of beating game in and game out.

We will see. 5 teams flagged him, which means they dropped him down their boards. 27 teams did not flag it, which means no concern. The combine medical gave him a 4 out of 5 score for health, which is solid. Medicals did not impact him. I think some teams are more worried about him being a 1 year wonder, and others simply had different draft needs (like the Niners). Need over value is a slippery slope when bypassing better talent.

Just curious. How do we know that 27 teams had no concerns while 5 teams flagged him? Is there some report they have to file that I missed? Or is this merely conjecture?

I think it is very fair to be concerned about a middle linebacker that has had neck infusion surgery and will be taking tons of hits.

Apr 29, 2018 at 2:58 PM

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Originally posted by SammyFrancisco:
I see MadDog catching a lot of flak for being critical of this year's draft. The reality is, no one is actually good at drafting players. Not fans, not NFL teams, though some tend to be better than others. There are simply too many variables and too much dumb luck. But we all have to appreciate fans like MD who put in their time studying and and sharing their opinions with other fans.
Out of curiosity, I looked back at MD's 2016 and 2017 Reviews to see how they've aged (granted, it's still early for these players, especially last year's class). I compiled my findings below.

2016 (MD's overall grade: B-/C+)
1. Niners: DeForest Buckner. MD's grade: A+
MD's pick: DeForest Buckner
1. Niners: Joshua Garnett . MD's grade: B-
MD's pick: WR Sterling Shepard (missed games in 2017 but looks like one of the better WRs in the league)
3. Niners: CB Will Redmond. MD's grade: C+
MD's pick: CB KeiVarae Russell (Chiefs--Released and picked up by Bengals. Has seen the field but zero production)
4. Niners: CB Rashard Robinson. MD's grade: D
MD's pick: RB Kenneth Dixon (Bills--made an impact as a rookie but missed all of 2017 due to injury)
5. Niners: Ronald Blair. MD's grade: A
MD's pick: TE Jerell Adams (Giants--backup and minimal contributor)
5. Niners: OT John Theus. MD's grade: C+
MD's pick: G/C Christian Westerman (Bengals--backup. Started two games for awful Bengals OLine last year)
5. Niners: G Fahn Cooper. MD's grade: B-
MD's pick: LB Jatavis Brown (Chargers--has started 12 games in 2 years. More productive as a rookie than in 2017)
6. Niners: QB Jeff Driskel. MD's grade: A
MD's pick: WR Keyarris Garrett (Panthers--hasn't played a down)
6. Niners: RB Kelvin Taylor. MD's grade: D
MD's pick: CB Jonathan Jones (Patriots--has started 5 games in 2 years. 8 PBUs and 1 INT in 2017)
6. Niners: WR Aaron Burbridge. MD's grade: C
MD's pick: S Jalen Mills (Eagles--started 15 games this year for the Super Bowl champs! 64 Tackles 3 INTs 14 PBUs)
7. Niners: CB Prince Charles Iworah. MD's grade: B-
MD's pick: C Jack Allen (Saints--hasn't played a down)

2017 (MD's overall grade: B-)
1. Niners: DE Solomon Thomas. MD's grade: very favorable
MD's pick: DE Solomon Thomas
1. Niners: LB Reuben Foster. MD's grade: unfavorable. love the talent but very skeptical of the person
MD's pick: G Forrest Lamp (Chargers--missed entire rookie year due to injury)
3. Niners: Akhello Witherspoon. MD's grade: favorable
MD's pick: WR Cooper Kupp (Rams--very productive as a rookie. Rams are counting on him as a contributor)
3. Niners: CJ Beathard. MD's grade: very unfavorable
MD's pick: LB Blair Brown (Jaguars--backup with minimal production)
4. Niners: Joe Williams. MD's grade: unfavorable
MD's pick: TE Jake Butt (Broncos--yet to play a down)
5. Niners: George Kittle. MD's grade: favorable
MD's pick: CB Damontae Kazee (Falcons--backup with minimal production but did have 2 FFs as a rookie)
5. Niners: Trent Taylor. MD's grade: neutral
MD's pick: FS Xavier Woods (Cowboys--started 4 games and played in all 16 for a sketchy secondary. Had 4 PBUs and 1 INT)
6. Niners: DJ Jones. MD's grade: neutral
MD's pick: TE Bucky Hodges (Jets--yet to play a down)
6. Niners: Pita Taumoepenu. MD's grade: unfavorable
MD's pick: LB Keion Adams (Steelers--yet to play a down)
7. Niners: Adrian Colbert. MD's grade: unfavorable
MD's pick: C Cameron Tom (Saints--yet to play a down)

There you have it. None of this proves anything, but it's interesting to go back and compare past predictions with reality when it comes to something as unpredictable as the draft. MD's 2016 picks were pretty clearly better than Baalke's. While Lynch&co's 2017 class has, so far, looked aberrantly good. Year in year out, talent evaluators make mistakes and try to learn from them, but that's all you can do. Imo, MD's opinions are just about as valid as anyone else's outside the '9ers building. And the guys inside the '9ers building aren't infallible.

Thanks for pointing out all my flaws. You are worst than my wife.

Look for Blair Brown to take over for Paul Pusluzny for the Jags, and Butt to make an impact. Lamp is going to be a monster

Apr 29, 2018 at 3:00 PM

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As always, thanks again MD for your work and review this year. May not be what we expected but hope a couple if not a few can contribute on the upcoming season.

Apr 29, 2018 at 3:02 PM

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Originally posted by PopeyeJonesing:
Kewl.

As fun as your opinion is, it doesn't really entertain OR inform (as it's already acknowledged in the original post).

If your contribution is that people are "blind" and "stupid" because it takes years to know how a draft will pan out, that's a mundane observation and not really a contribution. Rather than spamming the obvious just go back to the last sentence of my post you quoted and skip the thread— there's no point in sullying yourself down in the muck of an irrelevant conversation with the rest of us.

If its so obvious than why entertain grades. So posting completely arbitrary grades with pretty much little or no real information other than google is informative . How many interview did you have with these players? Did you go to there games and scout them? Talk to coaches? Meet the parents?

A productive exercise is stating how they will fit into our system and who we think will be a true pro at there craft. Not whether we reached for player and the value of the draft slot because after Saturday, its meaningless.

Blind and stupid was harsh on my part and was not necessary.

Apr 29, 2018 at 3:06 PM

#90

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I always respect you take on things and I know you put a lot of time into your evals and I can't be honest and say I was thrilled with the picks and I certainly wouldn't have done the same.

Having said that I think you're overreacting to some of the picks and come off a bit arrogant assuming guys like Pettis can't somehow be better players than you ranked him as.

It's all personal opinion so don't take it the wrong way but I would trust Kyle on the offensive picks. He's proven to know that side of the ball very well. doesn't mean this time he's right and you're wrong but we'll see.