Originally posted by MadDog49er:
I've been looking at White's film, and I think he is one of the most overrated prospects in this draft. There are parts of his game that are appealing, but he is not a top-flight prospect in this draft. My final grade on him will be as a late-second, early-third round prospect.
He is nowhere near the level of R. Smith and LVE, who I graded as the fourth and fifth best prospects last year.
Mad Dog, LB may not be the Niners top priority, but it's definitely a need. Are there any mid round LB prospects that you like yet?
I may think differently from some on this board, but see ILB as one of the key priorities for the team. I want the team to draft an anchor for the future at MLB, and have that person become the team captain and face of the defense for the next decade. I think this is a huge missing piece for the team.
I'll be honest: I am not thrilled with this crop of ILB's. Last year was the year to grab one, and we went for something else. Will continue to review (I am halfway through the top MLB prospects), but I am not seeing anything that jumps out at me so far. Maybe that will change.
What are your thoughts on Warner? What's his best fit?
He needs to run clean. I still like him as a Will on base downs.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
I've been looking at White's film, and I think he is one of the most overrated prospects in this draft. There are parts of his game that are appealing, but he is not a top-flight prospect in this draft. My final grade on him will be as a late-second, early-third round prospect.
He is nowhere near the level of R. Smith and LVE, who I graded as the fourth and fifth best prospects last year.
I agree. He is gonna go top 15 but I think he is at best a late 1st kind of guy to me.
exactly how i feel about him. Dude is a freak and has immense potential. But there are stuff that scares me like it did with Edmunds. But in his defense I never knew he was recruited as a RB so thats significant and I thought that Edmunds played a lot better as the season went on. Plus he would play as a WILL in our scheme so he wouldn't have to have the responsibility of playcalling with Warner.
Fastest 40 of the LB group. Ran a 4.42 and 4.45 versus Bush who ran 4.44 and 4.52. Simul-cam doesn't even look close - White looks 0.04-0.05 seconds faster and his 10 yard split looks better (it's possible they showed Bush's 4.52 by mistake).
[ Edited by eastcoast49ersfan on Mar 3, 2019 at 11:02 AM ]
Something I noticed about Edmunds was that Bud Foster's scheme at VT had him playing aggressively. This isn't to say that Edmunds was great at diagnosing, just that those concerns were a bit overblown. Edmunds did miss big early on as a rookie but he got better and finished strong. I see similarities with White.
The overagressiveness has been a component of Aranda's linebackers for a long time. They really try to get downhill in a hurry and sometimes that means getting within the gravitational pull of offensive linemen. As linebackers get smaller and more athletic, I'm not sure you want them taking on offensive linemen head on but that's less on White and more on Aranda's philosphy.
Weaknesses are instincts and tackling technique just started playing the position and already the best lb in the draft. Whoa. Easy fixes with experience alone.. Trade #2 for a stack of picks and get White, then we have enough ammo to trade up into back half of first for Murphy, the best corner in the draft. Whoa.
Sounds like baalke value thinking. We need to generate pass rush. What's your solution, besides adopt the entire Patriots Play Book in 2 months and other practical suggestions like that
Been re-thinking my original grade on White as a late-second rounder. If a good LB coach can help him throttle down before making tackles, I could see him cleaning this up a bit. Still not a first round grade for me, and really torn between him, Bush, Tranquil and Cashman as my top off the ball LB in this draft.