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Heroism · 2018-03-04T08:59:01-08:00

Dude is killing the combine 6'4" 251 lbs, 34 5/8" Arms 10 1/4" hands 4.53 40 1.55 10-yard split There were a few things I liked about him. I saved the following clips. That stab move is his money move. Stab to lure the hands and then club-rip. Love the balance to flatten. Using those 34 5/8" arms to stab while his eyes stay on the QB. Looked like he tried a little forklift with his off hand. Great leverage. When he gets off the ball with consistency, he's mighty impressive. The problem is his first step is egregiously inconsistent.

Mar 21, 2018 at 9:09 PM

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Originally posted by pd24:
This dude is probably a 4 year NFL player. Horrific knee injury in high school and then had part of meniscus removed from same knee in 2016. Probably a microfracture knee surgery candidate down the line. Probably pushing bone on bone.

You don't think teams will evaluate him before using a draft pick on him?

Mar 21, 2018 at 9:10 PM

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Originally posted by Dillesq:
Originally posted by pd24:
This dude is probably a 4 year NFL player. Horrific knee injury in high school and then had part of meniscus removed from same knee in 2016. Probably a microfracture knee surgery candidate down the line. Probably pushing bone on bone.

Thank your Dr. pd24, for the astute medical opinion. We will be seeking a 2nd opinion.

Read up on him and his knee. 2 operations in 2 years. Missing part of is meniscus. He is a 1st round talent but will be a 2nd or 3rd round pick because of his knee. He almost lost his leg and has nerve damage in his knee

Mar 21, 2018 at 9:12 PM

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Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by pd24:
This dude is probably a 4 year NFL player. Horrific knee injury in high school and then had part of meniscus removed from same knee in 2016. Probably a microfracture knee surgery candidate down the line. Probably pushing bone on bone.

You don't think teams will evaluate him before using a draft pick on him?

Like we did with Lattimore? His knee has nerve damage and a missing meniscus.

Mar 21, 2018 at 9:43 PM

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Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by pd24:
This dude is probably a 4 year NFL player. Horrific knee injury in high school and then had part of meniscus removed from same knee in 2016. Probably a microfracture knee surgery candidate down the line. Probably pushing bone on bone.

You don't think teams will evaluate him before using a draft pick on him?
Like we did with Lattimore? His knee has nerve damage and a missing meniscus.

Without getting in medical jargon - it depends where the meniscus is damaged - if it's peripheral then it can be cleaned out and not significant afterwards. If it's more central then it can get caught up, cause more pain and linger around. All nerve damage isn't equal either.

Speaking from personal experience (torn meniscus/acl) and as an MD.

Mar 21, 2018 at 9:46 PM

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Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
Without getting in medical jargon - it depends where the meniscus is damaged - if it's peripheral then it can be cleaned out and not significant afterwards. If it's more central then it can get caught up, cause more pain and linger around. All nerve damage isn't equal either.

Speaking from personal experience (torn meniscus/acl) and as an MD.

That's good info. Thanks. He did show explosion at the combine. Hope he has a long career. I would still be nervous if we drafted him. I'm a Laker fan and lived through Andrew Bynums knees. Lol

Mar 22, 2018 at 6:22 AM

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Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by pd24:
This dude is probably a 4 year NFL player. Horrific knee injury in high school and then had part of meniscus removed from same knee in 2016. Probably a microfracture knee surgery candidate down the line. Probably pushing bone on bone.

You don't think teams will evaluate him before using a draft pick on him?
Like we did with Lattimore? His knee has nerve damage and a missing meniscus.

Without getting in medical jargon - it depends where the meniscus is damaged - if it's peripheral then it can be cleaned out and not significant afterwards. If it's more central then it can get caught up, cause more pain and linger around. All nerve damage isn't equal either.

Speaking from personal experience (torn meniscus/acl) and as an MD.

I remember him saying he almost lost his leg, no wonder SF is really looking into him.

Mar 22, 2018 at 7:05 AM

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Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by pd24:
This dude is probably a 4 year NFL player. Horrific knee injury in high school and then had part of meniscus removed from same knee in 2016. Probably a microfracture knee surgery candidate down the line. Probably pushing bone on bone.

You don't think teams will evaluate him before using a draft pick on him?
Like we did with Lattimore? His knee has nerve damage and a missing meniscus.

That was more baalke doing his acl pick and we were such a stacked team at the time we could risk it. Plus I bet it was more of he's a good kid let's just draft him

Mar 22, 2018 at 8:16 AM

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Sending our DL coach to privately work him out.

Mar 22, 2018 at 8:25 AM

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Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Sending our DL coach to privately work him out.

Looks like they're really interested in this guy.

Have a feeling might trade up in 2nd round

So does that mean they go different defensive position in round 1? Roquan Smith and Sweat (if team signs off on him)!

Mar 22, 2018 at 8:36 AM

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Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Sending our DL coach to privately work him out.

Looks like they're really interested in this guy.

Have a feeling might trade up in 2nd round

So does that mean they go different defensive position in round 1? Roquan Smith and Sweat (if team signs off on him)!

I couldn't help but think of the same lol. Roquan and Sweat , sounds pretty wet

Mar 23, 2018 at 2:20 PM

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I'm really curious about this guy because of the way he was used by Florida State. In a traditional pass rushing position he might be better than all the rest but I have a feeling he'll be way over drafted.

Mar 24, 2018 at 4:23 PM

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I'm not a fan at all, I know he's had his injury problems but I saw a lack of burst, moves and a plan when attacking the QB.

It's like he was trying to be Landry without the athleticism.

I think he's a guy who lived off being the quickest and biggest guy around. Got injured, lost that edge and hasn't recovered. Can't see him doing well against NFL lineman.

Mar 24, 2018 at 5:11 PM

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Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
I'm not a fan at all, I know he's had his injury problems but I saw a lack of burst, moves and a plan when attacking the QB.

It's like he was trying to be Landry without the athleticism.

I think he's a guy who lived off being the quickest and biggest guy around. Got injured, lost that edge and hasn't recovered. Can't see him doing well against NFL lineman.

Sparq would disagree with you

https://3sigmaathlete.com/rankings/edge/

Mar 24, 2018 at 5:42 PM

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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
I'm not a fan at all, I know he's had his injury problems but I saw a lack of burst, moves and a plan when attacking the QB.

It's like he was trying to be Landry without the athleticism.

I think he's a guy who lived off being the quickest and biggest guy around. Got injured, lost that edge and hasn't recovered. Can't see him doing well against NFL lineman.

Sparq would disagree with you

https://3sigmaathlete.com/rankings/edge/

Sparq is great and all but that athletic ability doesn't always translate to the field back in 2015 Davis Tull was the top sparq score among all edge (higher than Beasley) dude was playing for the Saskatchewan Roughriders last yr.

I agree with BigMac sweat's get off isn't great at all. I'm glad SF is doing their homework on the kid, he had a horrific knee injury...craxy upside no doubt, gonna need the doctors to check that s**t out and he's gonna need coaching imo.

Mar 24, 2018 at 6:02 PM

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I don't think Sweats plays to his athleticism either. That's why those numbers caught me off guard.

Who knows? FSU scheme didn't do him any favors, and maybe that knee brace hindered his athleticism. It sounds like he doesn't plan on using it moving forward.