Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, DE/OLB, Oklahoma

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Originally posted by Rathof44:

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WRONG!

I decided to go back and watch some cut ups of OO & Harold Landry, let me start by saying that I actually think Landry was a better pass rusher this year than last, even though the production says otherwise, seemed to have more of a plan.

That said, and I think I may be the only person with this opinion, I actually think OO is the better player.

He has more moves, and sets up OL better, his hands are better, and though he doesn't quite have Landry's bend, it's pretty damn good.

OO seems to play off balance a little more which I'd like him to work on. Although it's low on my list OO is also IMO the better run defender, they both have their moments making nice plays, but OO is washed out less frequently and sets a better edge.

Landry will go a full round higher due to a couple of inches of height, but I think if they have similar team situations OO will be the better pro.

how old is this guy?

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I like him a lot better in the 2nd then I do Landry in the first.

That's fair. I'd have to agree with that, but I'm a greedy b@stard when it comes to Edge rushers, and I want both . If we get one or the other, I'll be pretty excited. If we get neither, I'll probably drink gasoline and light my pee to burn Levis down.

Or, you know, I'll just yell at the TV.

I agree, just yell at your TV, less painful!

But I wouldn't mind two edge rushers in the draft. If we can nail that position down for a couple of years, this team will be going deep in the playoffs as long as JImmy and Edge rusher are on the team.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

I like him a lot better in the 2nd then I do Landry in the first.

Exactly

Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
how old is this guy?

23

So the way I'm seeing this in my head (lol), Roquon Smith at 9, then package 59 and 74 (maybe receive a 4th in return) to get higher up in the 2nd an ensure we can draft OO. Hoping that Teller is still there at pick 70. I'd also double dip at pass rusher and would still take Jeff Holland. Between Attachou, Okoronkwo, Holland, and Marsh, someone should emerge.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

So the way I'm seeing this in my head (lol), Roquon Smith at 9, then package 59 and 74 (maybe receive a 4th in return) to get higher up in the 2nd an ensure we can draft OO. Hoping that Teller is still there at pick 70. I'd also double dip at pass rusher and would still take Jeff Holland. Between Attachou, Okoronkwo, Holland, and Marsh, someone should emerge.

That's the hope, but odds are you will wind up with an all pro edge rusher if you move up to the higher picks in the first round 5-7th pick range. Then again a guy like Charles Haley was a 4rth rounder, so who knows. I like the idea of double dipping for an edge rusher. It's a bit of an overkill, but I think that position deserves that kind of draft capital. Jimmy gives us the dimension where we can get ahead and teams have to pass to catch up.

Agreed similar to how we double dipped w/ TO and JJ stokes when our WR was getting old (albeit one year apart) - we need to double dip w/ pass rushers. It's a premium position that is hard to fill in FA.

I'm all for Landry/Davenport + OBO/Sweat/Nwosu (whoever the team signs off on)

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

So the way I'm seeing this in my head (lol), Roquon Smith at 9, then package 59 and 74 (maybe receive a 4th in return) to get higher up in the 2nd an ensure we can draft OO. Hoping that Teller is still there at pick 70. I'd also double dip at pass rusher and would still take Jeff Holland. Between Attachou, Okoronkwo, Holland, and Marsh, someone should emerge.

That's the hope, but odds are you will wind up with an all pro edge rusher if you move up to the higher picks in the first round 5-7th pick range. Then again a guy like Charles Haley was a 4rth rounder, so who knows. I like the idea of double dipping for an edge rusher. It's a bit of an overkill, but I think that position deserves that kind of draft capital. Jimmy gives us the dimension where we can get ahead and teams have to pass to catch up.

Very true, but that argument holds for most positions (moving up). From a talent perspective for both the short and longterm, the team looks better to me with Smith, OO, Teller, and Holland (in the 3rd or 4th), than with the edge rushers projected to go in the first + any day 2 or 3 linebacker and the other players mentioned. I only wish we could move down and still pick up Smith.

Hey horse face Elway,

Originally posted by Heroism:

This is sick. Ogbonnia uses an outside jab step and head nod to stop the tackle's feet and subtle swipes to cross the tackle's face.

This. Freaking. Play.

Originally posted by 49erInTheMidwest:

This. Freaking. Play.

Yup, he's class, he has a great burst and get off, and so much pass rush acumen. His bend is very good but unlike Landry he loses balance when turning the corner, if he got that down he'd be immense.

Originally posted by 49erInTheMidwest:

Originally posted by Heroism:

This is sick. Ogbonnia uses an outside jab step and head nod to stop the tackle's feet and subtle swipes to cross the tackle's face.

This. Freaking. Play.

Very Nice, I'm on the OO bandwagon if Landry or Davenport isn't there.