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jersey49er · 2017-10-14T00:07:07-07:00

Personally I don't trust any of the ILBs on the roster other then Foster, I'm a big fan of Lee but he's never going to get a shot..Armstrong isn't the answer, Coyle is a ST player, so which Prospects are there..? My fav is Malik Jefferson but he's easily a top 25 pick possibly better bc he's going to kill the Combine, I also like Micah Kiser, Azeem Victor, Rashad Evans and Jewel Josey Who is your fav and you think will be great next to Foster for the future..?

Mar 5, 2018 at 2:25 PM

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Moore, Jewell and Warner definitely caught my eye as later targets.

Mar 5, 2018 at 2:26 PM

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Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Moore, Jewell and Warner definitely caught my eye as later targets.

Keep Jewell and that 4.8 40 away from my LB crew lol. Everyone else I'm good with.

Mar 5, 2018 at 2:33 PM

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Originally posted by Dillesq:
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Moore, Jewell and Warner definitely caught my eye as later targets.

Keep Jewell and that 4.8 40 away from my LB crew lol. Everyone else I'm good with.

Someone put a gif of Jewell on the back pedal lateral drill and tell me he looks slow. Hes a LB... You don't need to run a 4.5 to be good. And no I'm not backing him up cause he's a white boy lol.

Mar 7, 2018 at 7:21 AM

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sup with this kid Genard Avery

dude dominated the combine

he was in the 80+ percentile in the Broad Jump, Vert, 40, and 3-cone...at 255lbs

Here is Avery playing off ball.. Look at this range. Sideline to sideline speed and burst. That 4.59 is legit and shows on tape. pic.twitter.com/EjTMyJjlCu
— Jonah Tuls (@JonahTulsNFL) March 6, 2018

Genard Avery's click and close is real. When he sees it, he attacks as quickly as any. Just needs to trust his reads more consistently. pic.twitter.com/MLenG7BG2w
— Jonah Tuls (@JonahTulsNFL) March 6, 2018

Mar 7, 2018 at 7:22 AM

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https://www.ndtscouting.com/tuls-memphis-lb-genard-avery-is-hidden-gem-of-2018-nfl-draft/

This is not fast forwarded, folks. Avery is too quick. That versatility reminds me a ton of Haason Reddick. pic.twitter.com/3XWcfPtHGw
— Jonah Tuls (@JonahTulsNFL) March 6, 2018

Mar 7, 2018 at 7:23 AM

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Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Someone put a gif of Jewell on the back pedal lateral drill and tell me he looks slow. Hes a LB... You don't need to run a 4.5 to be good. And no I'm not backing him up cause he's a white boy lol.

All of Jewell's athletic testing was bad. He's not NFL material IMO. don't care about how smooth his back pedal is he's a LB. and he's slow as dirt. This is a sideline to sideline league. And that's not his game.

Mar 7, 2018 at 7:39 AM

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Originally posted by Dillesq:

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Someone put a gif of Jewell on the back pedal lateral drill and tell me he looks slow. Hes a LB... You don't need to run a 4.5 to be good. And no I'm not backing him up cause he's a white boy lol.

All of Jewell's athletic testing was bad. He's not NFL material IMO. don't care about how smooth his back pedal is he's a LB. and he's slow as dirt. This is a sideline to sideline league. And that's not his game.

Not really...he was 2nd in the 3-cone, 8th in the shuttle, he was also fine in the broad and vert. Honestly the only thing he was slow in was the 40

Mar 7, 2018 at 7:46 AM

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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Not really...he was 2nd in the 3-cone, 8th in the shuttle, he was also fine in the broad and vert. Honestly the only thing he was slow in was the 40

His vert was 33

Mar 7, 2018 at 7:48 AM

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Originally posted by NYniner85:
sup with this kid Genard Avery

dude dominated the combine

he was in the 80+ percentile in the Broad Jump, Vert, 40, and 3-cone...at 255lbs

Here is Avery playing off ball.. Look at this range. Sideline to sideline speed and burst. That 4.59 is legit and shows on tape. pic.twitter.com/EjTMyJjlCu
— Jonah Tuls (@JonahTulsNFL) March 6, 2018

Genard Avery's click and close is real. When he sees it, he attacks as quickly as any. Just needs to trust his reads more consistently. pic.twitter.com/MLenG7BG2w
— Jonah Tuls (@JonahTulsNFL) March 6, 2018

Very interesting player. He had an excellent combine. Dude is built like the classic Fangio ILB. Loose, springy feet with smooth change of direction for a big dude. I like it.

[ Edited by Heroism on Mar 7, 2018 at 8:39 AM ]

Mar 7, 2018 at 8:22 AM

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Originally posted by Dillesq:

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Someone put a gif of Jewell on the back pedal lateral drill and tell me he looks slow. Hes a LB... You don't need to run a 4.5 to be good. And no I'm not backing him up cause he's a white boy lol.

All of Jewell's athletic testing was bad. He's not NFL material IMO. don't care about how smooth his back pedal is he's a LB. and he's slow as dirt. This is a sideline to sideline league. And that's not his game.

Originally posted by Dillesq:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Not really...he was 2nd in the 3-cone, 8th in the shuttle, he was also fine in the broad and vert. Honestly the only thing he was slow in was the 40
His vert was 33

His vert was middle of the pack amongst the linebackers.

Mar 7, 2018 at 8:24 AM

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Originally posted by Dillesq:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Not really...he was 2nd in the 3-cone, 8th in the shuttle, he was also fine in the broad and vert. Honestly the only thing he was slow in was the 40
His vert was 33

Rashann Evans had a 30 inch vert...33 inch is not awful for a ILB man.

Mar 7, 2018 at 8:32 AM

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Originally posted by Dillesq:

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Someone put a gif of Jewell on the back pedal lateral drill and tell me he looks slow. Hes a LB... You don't need to run a 4.5 to be good. And no I'm not backing him up cause he's a white boy lol.

All of Jewell's athletic testing was bad. He's not NFL material IMO. don't care about how smooth his back pedal is he's a LB. and he's slow as dirt. This is a sideline to sideline league. And that's not his game.

Preston Brown ran a 4.89 with a 33 vert
Chris Borland ran a 4.83 with a 31 vert
Vontiz Burfict ran a 5.0 with a 31 vert
Manti Teo ran a 4.82 with a 33 vert
Brandon Spikes ran a 5.09 with a 29 bvert

I fail to see why the 40 and vertical is the end all stat for inside backers.

Last time I checked, when running sideline to sideline you are dodging and disengaging blockers and not running in your underwear.

Mar 7, 2018 at 8:35 AM

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Originally posted by miked1978:
Preston Brown ran a 4.89 with a 33 vert
Chris Borland ran a 4.83 with a 31 vert
Vontiz Burfict ran a 5.0 with a 31 vert
Manti Teo ran a 4.82 with a 33 vert
Brandon Spikes ran a 5.09 with a 29 bvert

I fail to see why the 40 and vertical is the end all stat for inside backers.

Last time I checked, when running sideline to sideline you are dodging and disengaging blockers and not running in your underwear.

I don't see any top tier guys

Mar 7, 2018 at 9:06 AM

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Originally posted by Dillesq:

Originally posted by miked1978:
Preston Brown ran a 4.89 with a 33 vert
Chris Borland ran a 4.83 with a 31 vert
Vontiz Burfict ran a 5.0 with a 31 vert
Manti Teo ran a 4.82 with a 33 vert
Brandon Spikes ran a 5.09 with a 29 bvert

I fail to see why the 40 and vertical is the end all stat for inside backers.

Last time I checked, when running sideline to sideline you are dodging and disengaging blockers and not running in your underwear.

I don't see any top tier guys

All of those guys are good to decent linebackers and we are talking about a mid round prospect here.

Mar 7, 2018 at 9:16 AM

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Speed matters a lot in this scheme. Those two inside LB have to defend a lot of grass in coverage. Offenses attack this style of defense with dink-and-dunk strategies that focus on quick-rhythm throws to WR+RBs in the short and intermediate areas. That's the area Saleh refers to as the "kill zone."

Some of the 40 times of LBs teams have drafted for this scheme: Duke Riley (4.58), Deion Jones(4.59), De'Vondre Campbell (4.58), Telvin Smith (4.52)