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FL9er · 2017-04-07T16:09:16-07:00

I try to do this every year but haven't had any time. Here's Albert Breer confirming that the 49ers like Foster and Fournette; cue the vomiting emoticon from Heroism and a spamming of Fournette vids from Rascal. • WHO'S FALLING? From a talent standpoint, Alabama pass rusher Tim Williams is a Top 10 pick. I've heard him called a more explosive Bruce Irvin, and Irvin went 15th overall in 2013. But there's the drug issue (Williams admitted at the combine to failing tests in college), and the gun charge, and a real question as to whether or not he'll be able to grow past his problems. "He's up there with the top pure pass rushers," said one area scout assigned to the Tide. "The real question is his personality, and the trust factor with teams. The problems aren't rare, it's more whether the team can trust the person. Can he work through the problems? Is he smart enough to work through the problems?" Worth noting: Past personality issues with pass-rushers (Randy Gregory, Aldon Smith, Greg Hardy, Dion Jordan) aren't helping Williams. I'd be surprised if he goes in the first round. And he may fall further than that. • WHAT'S SAN FRANCISCO DOING? It's the most asked question I'm hearing from teams, and Stanford pass-rusher Solomon Thomas has long appeared to be the leader in the clubhouse to go No. 2 after Cleveland takes Texas A&M freak Myles Garrett off the board. But I'd be surprised if GM John Lynch doesn't make an effort to try and deal down and accumulate more draft capital. I've heard from a number of people that the Niners like Alabama LB Reuben Foster and LSU RB Leonard Fournette. • WILL THE BEARS TAKE A SAFETY? Word is the Bears like both LSU's Jamal Adams and Ohio State's Malik Hooker, who are widely considered two of the best safety prospects to come out of the college ranks in years. The problem? It's the idea of drafting a safety that high, and whether the impact will meet the price of the third pick in the draft. That would naturally make the Bears another candidate to at least explore trading down. • IS ANYONE LOOKING TO TRADE UP? As of right now, the ranks are thin, and for a couple reasons. First, the quarterbacks haven't built the momentum that Jared Goff and Carson Wentz did in 2016, and that position is usually a driver in major moves at the top of the first round. Second, as strong as this draft is, where it's strong it's also deep (receiver, tight end, corner, safety, edge rusher), so plenty of teams are thinking that the difference between, say, 5 and 15 or 10 and 20 isn't huge. • HOW WILL THE BACKS SHAKE OUT? I know a couple teams that like Dalvin Cook over Leonard Fournette, because of the 21st-century style of back Cook is. (It's similar to why the Colts took Edgerrin James over Ricky Williams a generation ago.) And there are teams that like Joe Mixon, as a player, more than Cook. Jaguars coach Doug Marrone said to me last week he wants a team that can run it when the opponent knows what's coming. So would Fournette be in play at 4? I'm hearing Mixon is likely to go in round two or three. Whenever he goes, it's a big and complex story. Add in Christian McCaffrey and Alvin Kamara, and this historic class of backs will be pretty compelling to watch when we get to Philly. • AND THE QUARTERBACKS? Remember, everyone believed the Jaguars were not taking a quarterback with the third pick in 2014. And then they did. So take that into account when I say that there's very little buzz for the quarterbacks inside the top few picks, with Buffalo at 10 (yes, even with Tyrod Taylor under contract) being the earliest selecting team being connected to the group. This one, of course, will evolve in the coming weeks. * * * ttp://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/04/06/richard-sherman-trade-talk-seattle-seahawks-nflpicks More to come. Others are free to add to the thread.

Apr 28, 2017 at 12:50 PM

#4036

9NERNATE
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Need to get back to the top 10 of the second! Lots is talent there.

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Apr 28, 2017 at 12:51 PM

#4037

9NERNATE
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Originally posted by 9NERNATE:
Need to get back to the top 10 of the second! Lots is talent there.

I want Buddah on this team and then go offense the rest of the draft.

Apr 28, 2017 at 12:52 PM

#4038

ChaunceyGardner
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Just saw Ian's tweet about Browns/Bengals attempting to work a trade for McCarron.

The Browns had a dang good first round but man they are doing everything to try to pull a QB out of a hat. Cousins, Jimmy G, McCarron... who else?

Honestly I don't think they had a amazing 1st rd with all that draft capital...no brainer at one, had Watson right there but traded down, got peppers who really doesn't have a positon, and got a TE which means nothing without a QB.

Seems like they just like picks rather than the right players...they're getting ripped a part on NFL radio right now lol.

We will see what that do tonight I could see Webb as the qb but I'm not really that impressed with all the picks they had.

Analytics picks all the way. Peppers must make the spreadsheets explode, his salary spread over the 15 positions he plays makes him virtually free.

Apr 28, 2017 at 12:58 PM

#4039

Wu-5Rings
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Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
Analytics picks all the way. Peppers must make the spreadsheets explode, his salary spread over the 15 positions he plays makes him virtually free.

You called it.

"Jabrill Peppers ready to focus on safety but Browns plan to use him on offense too"

Updated on Apr 28, 2017 at 11:58 AM EDT
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.mlive.com/v1/articles/20563532/jabrill_peppers_ready_to_focus.amp

"Hue Jackson: We'll find a role on offense for Jabrill Peppers"

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.mlive.com/v1/articles/20563532/jabrill_peppers_ready_to_focus.amp

[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Apr 28, 2017 at 12:59 PM ]

Apr 28, 2017 at 12:59 PM

#4040

NYniner85
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Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Name: Gerald Everett

School: South Alabama

Position: Tight end

Stat to know: Led all tight ends with 24 forced missed tackles in 2016, nine more than any other tight end. Also led in 2015 with 22.

Bacially a big WR

Apr 28, 2017 at 1:00 PM

#4041

NYniner85
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Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
Analytics picks all the way. Peppers must make the spreadsheets explode, his salary spread over the 15 positions he plays makes him virtually free.

Peppers imo is a luxury pick not a foundation player ya know? Best of luck in Cleveland

Apr 28, 2017 at 1:02 PM

#4042

Wu-5Rings
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
Analytics picks all the way. Peppers must make the spreadsheets explode, his salary spread over the 15 positions he plays makes him virtually free.

Peppers imo is a luxury pick not a foundation player ya know? Best of luck in Cleveland

He is going to be a star NY, watch. Thats why I wanted him here.

Apr 28, 2017 at 1:05 PM

#4043

49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
Analytics picks all the way. Peppers must make the spreadsheets explode, his salary spread over the 15 positions he plays makes him virtually free.

You called it.

"Jabrill Peppers ready to focus on safety but Browns plan to use him on offense too"

Updated on Apr 28, 2017 at 11:58 AM EDT
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.mlive.com/v1/articles/20563532/jabrill_peppers_ready_to_focus.amp

"Hue Jackson: We'll find a role on offense for Jabrill Peppers"

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.mlive.com/v1/articles/20563532/jabrill_peppers_ready_to_focus.amp

Free or a liability ?

Apr 28, 2017 at 1:09 PM

#4044

Wu-5Rings
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
Analytics picks all the way. Peppers must make the spreadsheets explode, his salary spread over the 15 positions he plays makes him virtually free.

You called it.

"Jabrill Peppers ready to focus on safety but Browns plan to use him on offense too"

Updated on Apr 28, 2017 at 11:58 AM EDT
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.mlive.com/v1/articles/20563532/jabrill_peppers_ready_to_focus.amp

"Hue Jackson: We'll find a role on offense for Jabrill Peppers"

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.mlive.com/v1/articles/20563532/jabrill_peppers_ready_to_focus.amp
Free or a liability ?

We shall see,

Just remember. Your going to hear this.. Oh thats why Wu wanted him on the squad.

[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Apr 28, 2017 at 1:09 PM ]

Apr 28, 2017 at 1:10 PM

#4045

NYniner85
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Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
I'm reading they were smart not reaching for a Qb, with that Peppers pick they got a baller and a 1st round next year? That's a win to me.

"BEREA (92.3 The Fan) – The Cleveland Browns now own the Houston Texans' first and second round picks in 2018"

Love ya man...but you're soooooooo bias when it comes to Michigan players.

Right and if Watson turned into a player who cares about a late rd 1st? They aren't gonna be good without a QB. Peppers in my opinion isn't a foundation player, he's a luxury that a team that's already good could benefit more from him.

I get the no QB last yr from them , but two yrs in a row with an even worse qb group?...and with all those picks. At some point you got to give Hue a chance.

Peppers isn't gonna save his job

Apr 28, 2017 at 1:12 PM

#4046

LottDMontanaO
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Originally posted by 9NERNATE:
I want Buddah on this team and then go offense the rest of the draft.

I like it, but how about Budda, a CB (since Brock's gone), and then O the rest of the draft?

Apr 28, 2017 at 1:20 PM

#4047

WRATHman44
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Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Name: Gerald Everett

School: South Alabama

Position: Tight end

Stat to know: Led all tight ends with 24 forced missed tackles in 2016, nine more than any other tight end. Also led in 2015 with 22.

Bacially a big WR

Got those tiny Alex Smiff hands...

Apr 28, 2017 at 1:20 PM

#4048

Wu-5Rings
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
I'm reading they were smart not reaching for a Qb, with that Peppers pick they got a baller and a 1st round next year? That's a win to me.

"BEREA (92.3 The Fan) – The Cleveland Browns now own the Houston Texans' first and second round picks in 2018"

Love ya man...but you're soooooooo bias when it comes to Michigan players.

Right and if Watson turned into a player who cares about a late rd 1st? They aren't gonna be good without a QB. Peppers in my opinion isn't a foundation player, he's a luxury that a team that's already good could benefit more from him.

I get the no QB last yr from them , but two yrs in a row with an even worse qb group?...and with all those picks. At some point you got to give Hue a chance.

Peppers isn't gonna save his job

Nah theres just some that like him and others that dont. Others that refuse being out of position and All-American.

He is not their savior but Myles Garrett and Jabrill Peppers is going to improve that defense immediately, if some choose to disregard, thats fine but remember when he balls out, dont say I didnt warn ya.

They were the #1 defense in the nation for a reason over Alabama and he was a huge factor whether some wana sit here and lie to themselves, thats fine.

I wouldnt say bias, I would say more realistic.

Got love for you too bro.

[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Apr 28, 2017 at 1:21 PM ]

Apr 28, 2017 at 1:25 PM

#4049

WRATHman44
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Originally posted by mayo49:
Would they consider Peterman in the 3rd round?

As a TE?

Apr 28, 2017 at 1:26 PM

#4050

NYniner85
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Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Nah theres just some that like him and others that dont. Others that refuse being out of position and All-American.

He is not their savior but Myles Garrett and Jabrill Peppers is going to improve that defense immediately, if some choose to disregard, thats fine but remember when he balls out, dont say I didnt warn ya.

They were the #1 defense in the nation for a reason over Alabama and he was a huge factor whether some wana sit here and lie to themselves, thats fine.

I wouldnt say bias, I would say more realistic.

Got love for you too bro.

We will see