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FL9er · 2017-04-07T16:09:16-07:00

I try to do this every year but haven't had any time. Here's Albert Breer confirming that the 49ers like Foster and Fournette; cue the vomiting emoticon from Heroism and a spamming of Fournette vids from Rascal. • WHO'S FALLING? From a talent standpoint, Alabama pass rusher Tim Williams is a Top 10 pick. I've heard him called a more explosive Bruce Irvin, and Irvin went 15th overall in 2013. But there's the drug issue (Williams admitted at the combine to failing tests in college), and the gun charge, and a real question as to whether or not he'll be able to grow past his problems. "He's up there with the top pure pass rushers," said one area scout assigned to the Tide. "The real question is his personality, and the trust factor with teams. The problems aren't rare, it's more whether the team can trust the person. Can he work through the problems? Is he smart enough to work through the problems?" Worth noting: Past personality issues with pass-rushers (Randy Gregory, Aldon Smith, Greg Hardy, Dion Jordan) aren't helping Williams. I'd be surprised if he goes in the first round. And he may fall further than that. • WHAT'S SAN FRANCISCO DOING? It's the most asked question I'm hearing from teams, and Stanford pass-rusher Solomon Thomas has long appeared to be the leader in the clubhouse to go No. 2 after Cleveland takes Texas A&M freak Myles Garrett off the board. But I'd be surprised if GM John Lynch doesn't make an effort to try and deal down and accumulate more draft capital. I've heard from a number of people that the Niners like Alabama LB Reuben Foster and LSU RB Leonard Fournette. • WILL THE BEARS TAKE A SAFETY? Word is the Bears like both LSU's Jamal Adams and Ohio State's Malik Hooker, who are widely considered two of the best safety prospects to come out of the college ranks in years. The problem? It's the idea of drafting a safety that high, and whether the impact will meet the price of the third pick in the draft. That would naturally make the Bears another candidate to at least explore trading down. • IS ANYONE LOOKING TO TRADE UP? As of right now, the ranks are thin, and for a couple reasons. First, the quarterbacks haven't built the momentum that Jared Goff and Carson Wentz did in 2016, and that position is usually a driver in major moves at the top of the first round. Second, as strong as this draft is, where it's strong it's also deep (receiver, tight end, corner, safety, edge rusher), so plenty of teams are thinking that the difference between, say, 5 and 15 or 10 and 20 isn't huge. • HOW WILL THE BACKS SHAKE OUT? I know a couple teams that like Dalvin Cook over Leonard Fournette, because of the 21st-century style of back Cook is. (It's similar to why the Colts took Edgerrin James over Ricky Williams a generation ago.) And there are teams that like Joe Mixon, as a player, more than Cook. Jaguars coach Doug Marrone said to me last week he wants a team that can run it when the opponent knows what's coming. So would Fournette be in play at 4? I'm hearing Mixon is likely to go in round two or three. Whenever he goes, it's a big and complex story. Add in Christian McCaffrey and Alvin Kamara, and this historic class of backs will be pretty compelling to watch when we get to Philly. • AND THE QUARTERBACKS? Remember, everyone believed the Jaguars were not taking a quarterback with the third pick in 2014. And then they did. So take that into account when I say that there's very little buzz for the quarterbacks inside the top few picks, with Buffalo at 10 (yes, even with Tyrod Taylor under contract) being the earliest selecting team being connected to the group. This one, of course, will evolve in the coming weeks. * * * ttp://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/04/06/richard-sherman-trade-talk-seattle-seahawks-nflpicks More to come. Others are free to add to the thread.

Apr 28, 2017 at 11:39 AM

#4006

Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Gerald Everett has been connected to the 49ers throughout this process. https://t.co/SIUQiu1rn2
— Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) April 28, 2017

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/gerald-everett?id=2557889 athletic monster

Delanie Walker 2.0

would love!

Delanie minus the blocking ability.

He is comparable to Jordan Reed in terms of how he could be used in this offense. Would love to have Engram but Everett is the next best move TE available.

Apr 28, 2017 at 11:41 AM

#4007

ChaunceyGardner
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Gerald Everett from nfl.com

"Blocks with anger and is prone to longer engagements than most blockers on perimeter."

And

"Bottom Line
It's difficult to find a good comparison for Everett because his size and toughness are similar to Marshall's coming out, but his playing style resembles Delanie Walker at times. Everett has size, speed and tremendous run-after-catch potential, but it is his willingness and ability to block that separates him from other "matchup" tight ends. Route running is below average, but he should improve with NFL coaching. Everett has the talent to become a very good NFL starter with Pro Bowl potential if he puts it all together."

Apr 28, 2017 at 11:44 AM

#4008

Wu-5Rings
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Originally posted by tankle104:
If Jake Butt can make a great recovery, I think he would be an awesome pick. His character, leadership and all around talent would be a tremendous asset to our team. He would help set the tone on offense. the leader we lack on that side of the ball.

First round talent if it wasn't for that injury to add. Good value.

Apr 28, 2017 at 11:45 AM

#4009

jreff22
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Probably a smoke screen lol

Apr 28, 2017 at 11:46 AM

#4010

saniner
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Gerald Everett has been connected to the 49ers throughout this process. https://t.co/SIUQiu1rn2
— Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) April 28, 2017

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/gerald-everett?id=2557889 athletic monster

Delanie Walker 2.0

would love!

Delanie minus the blocking ability.

He is comparable to Jordan Reed in terms of how he could be used in this offense. Would love to have Engram but Everett is the next best move TE available.

If it isn't Everett my money is on Adam Shaheen. Lynch talked about how fun it was to watch 'that tight end from Ashland' a few days ago in an interview. He would give the team some great size on offense

[ Edited by saniner on Apr 28, 2017 at 11:50 AM ]

Apr 28, 2017 at 11:46 AM

#4011

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Delanie minus the blocking ability.

He is comparable to Jordan Reed in terms of how he could be used in this offense. Would love to have Engram but Everett is the next best move TE available.

"Everett has size, speed and tremendous run-after-catch potential, but it is his willingness and ability to block that separates him from other "matchup" tight ends"

Yeah I like engram a lot...my buddy is friends with the Giant's TE coach and he said they weren't gonna draft a TE unless OJ fell....lies

Apr 28, 2017 at 11:47 AM

#4012

GhostOfBaalke
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Heard Kyle wants a play along tight end. Doesn't Bucky hodges fit that?

Apr 28, 2017 at 11:47 AM

#4013

DonnieDarko
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f*%*& a tight end...we need wrs

Apr 28, 2017 at 11:47 AM

#4014

pd24
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Do we have 2 4ths? I would take Butt with one of those

Apr 28, 2017 at 11:47 AM

#4015

a49erfan77
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Name: Gerald Everett

School: South Alabama

Position: Tight end

Stat to know: Led all tight ends with 24 forced missed tackles in 2016, nine more than any other tight end. Also led in 2015 with 22.

Apr 28, 2017 at 11:48 AM

#4016

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"Jake Butt is also from Michigan. You know why this name is on here. Butt had surgery for an ACL injury in January playing in the Orange Bowl. Even if he doesn't play this year, Butt looks to make a full recovery and play in the near future. Butt was easily in the top three for tight ends, along with O.J. Howard from Alabama and David Njoku out of Miami, and arguably the number one for his respective position."

http://ndsuspectrum.com/2017-nfl-draft-preview/

Apr 28, 2017 at 11:48 AM

#4017

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Just saw Ian's tweet about Browns/Bengals attempting to work a trade for McCarron.

The Browns had a dang good first round but man they are doing everything to try to pull a QB out of a hat. Cousins, Jimmy G, McCarron... who else?

[ Edited by Fanaticofnfl on Apr 28, 2017 at 11:48 AM ]

Apr 28, 2017 at 11:48 AM

#4018

Wu-5Rings
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You guys are forgetting!!!

Kyle likes his tight ends... Austin Hooper Helloooooo

[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Apr 28, 2017 at 11:49 AM ]

Apr 28, 2017 at 11:50 AM

#4019

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Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
"Jake Butt is also from Michigan. You know why this name is on here. Butt had surgery for an ACL injury in January playing in the Orange Bowl. Even if he doesn't play this year, Butt looks to make a full recovery and play in the near future. Butt was easily in the top three for tight ends, along with O.J. Howard from Alabama and David Njoku out of Miami, and arguably the number one for his respective position."

http://ndsuspectrum.com/2017-nfl-draft-preview/

Baalke is salivating over this

Apr 28, 2017 at 11:50 AM

#4020

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Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

The 49ers are thinking hard about drafting a TE today. Kyle Shanahan picked Jordan Reed with the Redskins in round 3. SF needs a playmaker
— Kevin Jones (@Mr_KevinJones) April 28, 2017

1. O. J. Howard, Alabama: Can start day 1 and make a huge impact in all areas.

2. David Njoku, Miami: The only other tight end in this class with a shot at being a 1st round pick. He's a stud receiver but a decent blocker in his own right too.

3. Adam Shaheen, Ashland: He comes from a small school but his hands, speed and size are all fantastic. He has the skillset to become an elite tight end.

4. Bucky Hodges, Virginia Tech: At 6'7″ he has tremendous size but he also made a lot of big plays for the Hokies. He can make a tremendous impact in the passing game.

5. Evan Engram, Ole Miss: Definitely more of a receiver but his speed makes him dangerous down the seam.

6. Gerald Everett, South Alabama: Similar to Engram as a prospect. Tremendous potential but maybe more question marks and a non factor blocking.

7. Jake Butt, Michigan: He would likely be higher on this list if he wasn't recovering from an ACL tear. He's not an exceptional speed receiving tight end but he's solid in all areas.

8. Eric Saubert, Drake: Potential is off the charts but he's inconsistent and raw.

9. Jeremy Sprinkle, Arkansas: A very solid and safe pick that should do well in the NFL. Good in all areas, but not elite at anything.

10. Jordan Leggett, Clemson: A big time receiver for Watson with nice size.

http://thecomeback.com/thisgivensunday/2017-articles/the-top-10-players-on-offense-at-every-position-in-the-2017-nfl-draft.html