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FL9er · 2017-04-07T16:09:16-07:00

I try to do this every year but haven't had any time. Here's Albert Breer confirming that the 49ers like Foster and Fournette; cue the vomiting emoticon from Heroism and a spamming of Fournette vids from Rascal. • WHO'S FALLING? From a talent standpoint, Alabama pass rusher Tim Williams is a Top 10 pick. I've heard him called a more explosive Bruce Irvin, and Irvin went 15th overall in 2013. But there's the drug issue (Williams admitted at the combine to failing tests in college), and the gun charge, and a real question as to whether or not he'll be able to grow past his problems. "He's up there with the top pure pass rushers," said one area scout assigned to the Tide. "The real question is his personality, and the trust factor with teams. The problems aren't rare, it's more whether the team can trust the person. Can he work through the problems? Is he smart enough to work through the problems?" Worth noting: Past personality issues with pass-rushers (Randy Gregory, Aldon Smith, Greg Hardy, Dion Jordan) aren't helping Williams. I'd be surprised if he goes in the first round. And he may fall further than that. • WHAT'S SAN FRANCISCO DOING? It's the most asked question I'm hearing from teams, and Stanford pass-rusher Solomon Thomas has long appeared to be the leader in the clubhouse to go No. 2 after Cleveland takes Texas A&M freak Myles Garrett off the board. But I'd be surprised if GM John Lynch doesn't make an effort to try and deal down and accumulate more draft capital. I've heard from a number of people that the Niners like Alabama LB Reuben Foster and LSU RB Leonard Fournette. • WILL THE BEARS TAKE A SAFETY? Word is the Bears like both LSU's Jamal Adams and Ohio State's Malik Hooker, who are widely considered two of the best safety prospects to come out of the college ranks in years. The problem? It's the idea of drafting a safety that high, and whether the impact will meet the price of the third pick in the draft. That would naturally make the Bears another candidate to at least explore trading down. • IS ANYONE LOOKING TO TRADE UP? As of right now, the ranks are thin, and for a couple reasons. First, the quarterbacks haven't built the momentum that Jared Goff and Carson Wentz did in 2016, and that position is usually a driver in major moves at the top of the first round. Second, as strong as this draft is, where it's strong it's also deep (receiver, tight end, corner, safety, edge rusher), so plenty of teams are thinking that the difference between, say, 5 and 15 or 10 and 20 isn't huge. • HOW WILL THE BACKS SHAKE OUT? I know a couple teams that like Dalvin Cook over Leonard Fournette, because of the 21st-century style of back Cook is. (It's similar to why the Colts took Edgerrin James over Ricky Williams a generation ago.) And there are teams that like Joe Mixon, as a player, more than Cook. Jaguars coach Doug Marrone said to me last week he wants a team that can run it when the opponent knows what's coming. So would Fournette be in play at 4? I'm hearing Mixon is likely to go in round two or three. Whenever he goes, it's a big and complex story. Add in Christian McCaffrey and Alvin Kamara, and this historic class of backs will be pretty compelling to watch when we get to Philly. • AND THE QUARTERBACKS? Remember, everyone believed the Jaguars were not taking a quarterback with the third pick in 2014. And then they did. So take that into account when I say that there's very little buzz for the quarterbacks inside the top few picks, with Buffalo at 10 (yes, even with Tyrod Taylor under contract) being the earliest selecting team being connected to the group. This one, of course, will evolve in the coming weeks. * * * ttp://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/04/06/richard-sherman-trade-talk-seattle-seahawks-nflpicks More to come. Others are free to add to the thread.

Apr 28, 2017 at 11:51 AM

#4021

VDSF
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Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
You guys are forgetting!!!

Kyle likes his tight ends... Austin Hooper Helloooooo

What happened to Blake Bell?

Apr 28, 2017 at 11:54 AM

#4022

Wu-5Rings
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Originally posted by VDSF:
Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
You guys are forgetting!!!

Kyle likes his tight ends... Austin Hooper Helloooooo

What happened to Blake Bell?

The Qb? I think you answered your own question, Kyle needs a te with natural hands.

Kyle needs TD's from his te.

[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Apr 28, 2017 at 11:57 AM ]

Apr 28, 2017 at 11:56 AM

#4023

ChaunceyGardner
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Originally posted by fropwns:

Gotta have Sprinkles with your Froster

Apr 28, 2017 at 12:06 PM

#4024

Wu-5Rings
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"In Shanahan's offense, the tight end is often lined up off the ball. He can be a more dangerous asset there because he can go in any direction: He can release for a pass attempt, he can be a front-side or backside blocker as if he were on the line of scrimmage, and most importantly, he can cross the formation at the snap and either seal the backside or release and be a weapon in the pass game.

This article will show you how using the tight end like this in the run game opens up their play-action passing game by giving Ryan the windows to hit his deep crossing routes."

"How the Falcons made the tight end the key to their offense"

http://www.sbnation.com/2017/2/1/14459148/atlanta-falcons-offense-tight-end-matt-ryan-julio-jones-super-bowl-2017

They don't have to be elite but these blocking te or a Qb playing te is not going to cut it. He loves using multiple tight end formations.

[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Apr 28, 2017 at 12:10 PM ]

Apr 28, 2017 at 12:13 PM

#4025

VDSF
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Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Originally posted by VDSF:

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
You guys are forgetting!!!

Kyle likes his tight ends... Austin Hooper Helloooooo

What happened to Blake Bell?

The Qb? I think you answered your own question, Kyle needs a te with natural hands.

Kyle needs TD's from his te.

I think you need Kyle more than Kyle needs his TE..

Apr 28, 2017 at 12:14 PM

#4026

Wu-5Rings
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Originally posted by VDSF:
I think you need Kyle more than Kyle needs his TE..

Read!

Do I need to repost the article

[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Apr 28, 2017 at 12:20 PM ]

Apr 28, 2017 at 12:17 PM

#4027

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Originally posted by NYniner85:
The 49ers are thinking hard about drafting a TE today. Kyle Shanahan picked Jordan Reed with the Redskins in round 3. SF needs a playmaker
— Kevin Jones (@Mr_KevinJones) April 28, 2017

I'm hoping a late round pick for Phazahn Odom.

Apr 28, 2017 at 12:20 PM

#4028

Wu-5Rings
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"Without any history from Kyle Shanahan or John Lynch from previous drafts, ... Garcon and Marquise Goodwin in free agency to help install Shanahan's offense, ... his production, but Shanahan likes to use multiple tight ends."

Looks like he uses tight ends to me? All you have to have is basic reading skills. (For the smart asses)

[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Apr 28, 2017 at 12:24 PM ]

Apr 28, 2017 at 12:27 PM

#4029

btthepunk
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Browns just cut Barnidge. Rather get him then draft one in the 3rd.

Apr 28, 2017 at 12:35 PM

#4030

NYniner85
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
f*%*& a tight end...we need wrs

Half these TEs are basically big WRs lol

Apr 28, 2017 at 12:39 PM

#4031

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Would they consider Peterman in the 3rd round?

Apr 28, 2017 at 12:41 PM

#4032

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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Just saw Ian's tweet about Browns/Bengals attempting to work a trade for McCarron.

The Browns had a dang good first round but man they are doing everything to try to pull a QB out of a hat. Cousins, Jimmy G, McCarron... who else?

Honestly I don't think they had a amazing 1st rd with all that draft capital...no brainer at one, had Watson right there but traded down, got peppers who really doesn't have a positon, and got a TE which means nothing without a QB.

Seems like they just like picks rather than the right players...they're getting ripped a part on NFL radio right now lol.

We will see what that do tonight I could see Webb as the qb but I'm not really that impressed with all the picks they had.

Apr 28, 2017 at 12:43 PM

#4033

NYniner85
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Originally posted by mayo49:
Would they consider Peterman in the 3rd round?

Hope so

Apr 28, 2017 at 12:43 PM

#4034

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Originally posted by saniner:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Browns inquired last night about trading for Patriots' QB Jimmy Garappolo and were told, once again, NE not interested, per sources.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) April 28, 2017

I'm beginning to think Pats are in win now mode so Brady can finish this season with another SB and retire, allowing Jimmy G to take over. Could be why they're so adamant about not trading him.

I'm having a really hard time reading the Pats too. I've assumed that the "no, we're not trading him" responses where just posturing from New England to try to get someone to overpay. I really thought that they'd move him before the draft.

They can still franchise him next year and then work out a trade (that's what they did with Matt Cassel). I'm guessing that's their plan?

It's confusing, because we keep hearing reports that Brady will play for 5+ more years (as recently as last month he said that again). Maybe New England really will move on from him. Jerry didn't finish his career with us, Favre jumped aren't at the end of his career, Manning left the Colts... nobody -- not even the all-time greats -- is a lock to stay with on team.

Apr 28, 2017 at 12:45 PM

#4035

Wu-5Rings
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Just saw Ian's tweet about Browns/Bengals attempting to work a trade for McCarron.

The Browns had a dang good first round but man they are doing everything to try to pull a QB out of a hat. Cousins, Jimmy G, McCarron... who else?

Honestly I don't think they had a amazing 1st rd with all that draft capital...no brainer at one, had Watson right there but traded down, got peppers who really doesn't have a positon, and got a TE which means nothing without a QB.

Seems like they just like picks rather than the right players...they're getting ripped a part on NFL radio right now lol.

We will see what that do tonight I could see Webb as the qb but I'm not really that impressed with all the picks they had.

I'm reading they were smart not reaching for a Qb, with that Peppers pick they got a baller and a 1st round next year? That's a win to me.

"BEREA (92.3 The Fan) – The Cleveland Browns now own the Houston Texans' first and second round picks in 2018"

[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Apr 28, 2017 at 12:51 PM ]