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FL9er · 2017-04-07T16:09:16-07:00

I try to do this every year but haven't had any time. Here's Albert Breer confirming that the 49ers like Foster and Fournette; cue the vomiting emoticon from Heroism and a spamming of Fournette vids from Rascal. • WHO'S FALLING? From a talent standpoint, Alabama pass rusher Tim Williams is a Top 10 pick. I've heard him called a more explosive Bruce Irvin, and Irvin went 15th overall in 2013. But there's the drug issue (Williams admitted at the combine to failing tests in college), and the gun charge, and a real question as to whether or not he'll be able to grow past his problems. "He's up there with the top pure pass rushers," said one area scout assigned to the Tide. "The real question is his personality, and the trust factor with teams. The problems aren't rare, it's more whether the team can trust the person. Can he work through the problems? Is he smart enough to work through the problems?" Worth noting: Past personality issues with pass-rushers (Randy Gregory, Aldon Smith, Greg Hardy, Dion Jordan) aren't helping Williams. I'd be surprised if he goes in the first round. And he may fall further than that. • WHAT'S SAN FRANCISCO DOING? It's the most asked question I'm hearing from teams, and Stanford pass-rusher Solomon Thomas has long appeared to be the leader in the clubhouse to go No. 2 after Cleveland takes Texas A&M freak Myles Garrett off the board. But I'd be surprised if GM John Lynch doesn't make an effort to try and deal down and accumulate more draft capital. I've heard from a number of people that the Niners like Alabama LB Reuben Foster and LSU RB Leonard Fournette. • WILL THE BEARS TAKE A SAFETY? Word is the Bears like both LSU's Jamal Adams and Ohio State's Malik Hooker, who are widely considered two of the best safety prospects to come out of the college ranks in years. The problem? It's the idea of drafting a safety that high, and whether the impact will meet the price of the third pick in the draft. That would naturally make the Bears another candidate to at least explore trading down. • IS ANYONE LOOKING TO TRADE UP? As of right now, the ranks are thin, and for a couple reasons. First, the quarterbacks haven't built the momentum that Jared Goff and Carson Wentz did in 2016, and that position is usually a driver in major moves at the top of the first round. Second, as strong as this draft is, where it's strong it's also deep (receiver, tight end, corner, safety, edge rusher), so plenty of teams are thinking that the difference between, say, 5 and 15 or 10 and 20 isn't huge. • HOW WILL THE BACKS SHAKE OUT? I know a couple teams that like Dalvin Cook over Leonard Fournette, because of the 21st-century style of back Cook is. (It's similar to why the Colts took Edgerrin James over Ricky Williams a generation ago.) And there are teams that like Joe Mixon, as a player, more than Cook. Jaguars coach Doug Marrone said to me last week he wants a team that can run it when the opponent knows what's coming. So would Fournette be in play at 4? I'm hearing Mixon is likely to go in round two or three. Whenever he goes, it's a big and complex story. Add in Christian McCaffrey and Alvin Kamara, and this historic class of backs will be pretty compelling to watch when we get to Philly. • AND THE QUARTERBACKS? Remember, everyone believed the Jaguars were not taking a quarterback with the third pick in 2014. And then they did. So take that into account when I say that there's very little buzz for the quarterbacks inside the top few picks, with Buffalo at 10 (yes, even with Tyrod Taylor under contract) being the earliest selecting team being connected to the group. This one, of course, will evolve in the coming weeks. * * * ttp://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/04/06/richard-sherman-trade-talk-seattle-seahawks-nflpicks More to come. Others are free to add to the thread.

Apr 28, 2017 at 1:27 PM

#4051

Wu-5Rings
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"After losing Peppers, almost a total reboot for U-M's No. 1 defense"

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wolverines/2017/01/11/michigan-wolverines-football-defense/96462842/

I didn't imagine them being the #1 defense over Alabama???

Naturally every year the top defenses get picked apart by the nfl draft...

Bias? Or Reality?

As long as everyone knows they are the #1 defense overall whether you hate Michigan or not??

Fact, Its not Wu campaigning for Michigan

They were the #1 defense. Im sorry they were if some wanted another college to be #1, Im sorry

[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Apr 28, 2017 at 1:32 PM ]

Apr 28, 2017 at 1:30 PM

#4052

NYniner85
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Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Name: Gerald Everett

School: South Alabama

Position: Tight end

Stat to know: Led all tight ends with 24 forced missed tackles in 2016, nine more than any other tight end. Also led in 2015 with 22.

Bacially a big WR

Got those tiny Alex Smiff hands...

Apr 28, 2017 at 1:33 PM

#4053

Wu-5Rings
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Posts: 12,083

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
"After losing Peppers, almost a total reboot for U-M's No. 1 defense"

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wolverines/2017/01/11/michigan-wolverines-football-defense/96462842/

I didn't imagine them being the #1 defense over Alabama???

Naturally every year the top defenses get picked apart by the nfl draft...

Bias? Or Reality?

As long as everyone knows they are the #1 defense overall whether you hate Michigan or not??

Fact, Its not Wu campaigning for Michigan

They were the #1 defense. Im sorry they were if some wanted another college to be #1, Im sorry

Im sorry I want the best for the niners

Apr 28, 2017 at 1:39 PM

#4054

SmokeCrabtrees
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Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
"After losing Peppers, almost a total reboot for U-M's No. 1 defense"

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wolverines/2017/01/11/michigan-wolverines-football-defense/96462842/

I didn't imagine them being the #1 defense over Alabama???

Naturally every year the top defenses get picked apart by the nfl draft...

Bias? Or Reality?

As long as everyone knows they are the #1 defense overall whether you hate Michigan or not??

Fact, Its not Wu campaigning for Michigan

They were the #1 defense. Im sorry they were if some wanted another college to be #1, Im sorry

Im sorry I want the best for the niners

Then let's take Tim Williams in the third...maybe a lil trade down? Move back up to have 3 3rds?

Apr 28, 2017 at 1:44 PM

#4055

Wu-5Rings
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Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
"After losing Peppers, almost a total reboot for U-M's No. 1 defense"

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wolverines/2017/01/11/michigan-wolverines-football-defense/96462842/

I didn't imagine them being the #1 defense over Alabama???

Naturally every year the top defenses get picked apart by the nfl draft...

Bias? Or Reality?

As long as everyone knows they are the #1 defense overall whether you hate Michigan or not??

Fact, Its not Wu campaigning for Michigan

They were the #1 defense. Im sorry they were if some wanted another college to be #1, Im sorry

Im sorry I want the best for the niners

Then let's take Tim Williams in the third...maybe a lil trade down? Move back up to have 3 3rds?

I'm down, secure that linebacker crew, pass rush will be legit. Get some corners.

[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Apr 28, 2017 at 1:46 PM ]

Apr 28, 2017 at 1:48 PM

#4056

NYniner85
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#Jets aren't just shopping Sheldon Richardson (as @RapSheet said). Also making calls on trading former 1st-rd pick Calvin Pryor, per sources
— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) April 28, 2017

Apr 28, 2017 at 1:50 PM

#4057

Fanaticofnfl
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Originally posted by NYniner85:

#Jets aren't just shopping Sheldon Richardson (as @RapSheet said). Also making calls on trading former 1st-rd pick Calvin Pryor, per sources
— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) April 28, 2017

According to PFF, he was very good in 2014. Has he done anything since, and would he be a better pickup than Baker?

Apr 28, 2017 at 1:56 PM

#4058

NYniner85
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Originally posted by pahlerbj:
I'm thinking we are going to trade into the 2nd round with all the picks we have.

Round 3: Pick 2 (No. 66 overall)
Round 3: Pick 3 (No. 67 overall)
Round 4: Pick 2 (No. 109 overall)
Round 4: Pick 37 (No. 143 overall)
Round 5: Pick 2 (No. 146 overall)
Round 5: Pick 17 (No. 161 overall)
Round 6: Pick 2 (No. 186 overall)
Round 6: Pick 18 (No. 202 overall)
Round 7: Pick 1 (No. 219 overall)

66 and 146 can get us back into the bottom of the 2nd. 66 and 109 can get us back into top 50...honestly I think our 3rd and 4th rd picks are worth more than the regular draft chart because of how deep this draft is....

[ Edited by NYniner85 on Apr 28, 2017 at 1:56 PM ]

Apr 28, 2017 at 1:57 PM

#4059

theduke85
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Originally posted by pahlerbj:
I'm thinking we are going to trade into the 2nd round with all the picks we have.

Round 3: Pick 2 (No. 66 overall)
Round 3: Pick 3 (No. 67 overall)
Round 4: Pick 2 (No. 109 overall)
Round 4: Pick 37 (No. 143 overall)
Round 5: Pick 2 (No. 146 overall)
Round 5: Pick 17 (No. 161 overall)
Round 6: Pick 2 (No. 186 overall)
Round 6: Pick 18 (No. 202 overall)
Round 7: Pick 1 (No. 219 overall)

Wow, I didn't realize we had so many picks left.

Apr 28, 2017 at 1:59 PM

#4060

NYniner85
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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
According to PFF, he was very good in 2014. Has he done anything since, and would he be a better pickup than Baker?

Baker is a single high FS Pryor is a SS....different guys IMO. wouldn't give up much for Pryor honestly, dude might get cut.

Apr 28, 2017 at 1:59 PM

#4061

mayo49
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Originally posted by pahlerbj:
I'm thinking we are going to trade into the 2nd round with all the picks we have.

Round 3: Pick 2 (No. 66 overall)
Round 3: Pick 3 (No. 67 overall)
Round 4: Pick 2 (No. 109 overall)
Round 4: Pick 37 (No. 143 overall)
Round 5: Pick 2 (No. 146 overall)
Round 5: Pick 17 (No. 161 overall)
Round 6: Pick 2 (No. 186 overall)
Round 6: Pick 18 (No. 202 overall)
Round 7: Pick 1 (No. 219 overall)

You got the wrong overall pick in Round 6: Pick 2, should be 198 overall.

Apr 28, 2017 at 2:08 PM

#4062