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FL9er · 2017-04-07T16:09:16-07:00

I try to do this every year but haven't had any time. Here's Albert Breer confirming that the 49ers like Foster and Fournette; cue the vomiting emoticon from Heroism and a spamming of Fournette vids from Rascal. • WHO'S FALLING? From a talent standpoint, Alabama pass rusher Tim Williams is a Top 10 pick. I've heard him called a more explosive Bruce Irvin, and Irvin went 15th overall in 2013. But there's the drug issue (Williams admitted at the combine to failing tests in college), and the gun charge, and a real question as to whether or not he'll be able to grow past his problems. "He's up there with the top pure pass rushers," said one area scout assigned to the Tide. "The real question is his personality, and the trust factor with teams. The problems aren't rare, it's more whether the team can trust the person. Can he work through the problems? Is he smart enough to work through the problems?" Worth noting: Past personality issues with pass-rushers (Randy Gregory, Aldon Smith, Greg Hardy, Dion Jordan) aren't helping Williams. I'd be surprised if he goes in the first round. And he may fall further than that. • WHAT'S SAN FRANCISCO DOING? It's the most asked question I'm hearing from teams, and Stanford pass-rusher Solomon Thomas has long appeared to be the leader in the clubhouse to go No. 2 after Cleveland takes Texas A&M freak Myles Garrett off the board. But I'd be surprised if GM John Lynch doesn't make an effort to try and deal down and accumulate more draft capital. I've heard from a number of people that the Niners like Alabama LB Reuben Foster and LSU RB Leonard Fournette. • WILL THE BEARS TAKE A SAFETY? Word is the Bears like both LSU's Jamal Adams and Ohio State's Malik Hooker, who are widely considered two of the best safety prospects to come out of the college ranks in years. The problem? It's the idea of drafting a safety that high, and whether the impact will meet the price of the third pick in the draft. That would naturally make the Bears another candidate to at least explore trading down. • IS ANYONE LOOKING TO TRADE UP? As of right now, the ranks are thin, and for a couple reasons. First, the quarterbacks haven't built the momentum that Jared Goff and Carson Wentz did in 2016, and that position is usually a driver in major moves at the top of the first round. Second, as strong as this draft is, where it's strong it's also deep (receiver, tight end, corner, safety, edge rusher), so plenty of teams are thinking that the difference between, say, 5 and 15 or 10 and 20 isn't huge. • HOW WILL THE BACKS SHAKE OUT? I know a couple teams that like Dalvin Cook over Leonard Fournette, because of the 21st-century style of back Cook is. (It's similar to why the Colts took Edgerrin James over Ricky Williams a generation ago.) And there are teams that like Joe Mixon, as a player, more than Cook. Jaguars coach Doug Marrone said to me last week he wants a team that can run it when the opponent knows what's coming. So would Fournette be in play at 4? I'm hearing Mixon is likely to go in round two or three. Whenever he goes, it's a big and complex story. Add in Christian McCaffrey and Alvin Kamara, and this historic class of backs will be pretty compelling to watch when we get to Philly. • AND THE QUARTERBACKS? Remember, everyone believed the Jaguars were not taking a quarterback with the third pick in 2014. And then they did. So take that into account when I say that there's very little buzz for the quarterbacks inside the top few picks, with Buffalo at 10 (yes, even with Tyrod Taylor under contract) being the earliest selecting team being connected to the group. This one, of course, will evolve in the coming weeks. * * * ttp://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/04/06/richard-sherman-trade-talk-seattle-seahawks-nflpicks More to come. Others are free to add to the thread.

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:00 PM

#3496

Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Exactly. The owner gets his QB #1 and the money ball team tries to acquire additional picks.

Its already been announced that they are drafting Garrett #1.

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:01 PM

#3497

NYniner85
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Broncos want to move up pretty badly apparently. They all in on McCaffrey.

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:01 PM

#3498

Lobo49er
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Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
I spent a minute and a half googling Trey Downe and found nothing. What's the joke?

Trade Down.

Why are you telling him to Trade Down? He's not the GM. And I don't see what that has to do with his question? For a "HoF" Poster on this board, I'm not impressed with this quality of reply. I expect better.

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[ Edited by Lobo49er on Apr 27, 2017 at 2:06 PM ]

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:01 PM

#3499

ComeOnDeberg
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Exactly. The owner gets his QB #1 and the money ball team tries to acquire additional picks.

Its already been announced that they are drafting Garrett #1.

Officially or Mary Cabot

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:01 PM

#3500

Fanaticofnfl
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Broncos want to move up pretty badly apparently. They all in on McCaffrey.

Trade back to 6. Then trade back to 20

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:01 PM

#3501

Cisco0623
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lol

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:02 PM

#3502

gold49er2183
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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
I spent a minute and a half googling Trey Downe and found nothing. What's the joke?

Lmfao

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:02 PM

#3503

ComeOnDeberg
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Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Exactly. The owner gets his QB #1 and the money ball team tries to acquire additional picks.

Its already been announced that they are drafting Garrett #1.

Officially or Mary Cabot

http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2017/story/_/id/19257313/2017-nfl-draft-cleveland-browns-planning-select-myles-garrett-no-1

Nevermind

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:02 PM

#3504

Fanaticofnfl
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Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Exactly. The owner gets his QB #1 and the money ball team tries to acquire additional picks.

Its already been announced that they are drafting Garrett #1.

Officially or Mary Cabot

http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2017/story/_/id/19257313/2017-nfl-draft-cleveland-browns-planning-select-myles-garrett-no-1

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:02 PM

#3505

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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Trade back to 6. Then trade back to 20

and then trade back to 30.

and then to 60.

and then out of the draft entirely.

zero picks made.

[ Edited by Heroism on Apr 27, 2017 at 2:02 PM ]

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:03 PM

#3506

VaBeachNiner
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Originally posted by gold49er2183:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
I spent a minute and a half googling Trey Downe and found nothing. What's the joke?

Lmfao

Play on words.

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:03 PM

#3507

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With the trades talks in the top 5 I'm told Jax is staying put. They want to f**k this up and draft a RB who would've been good in the 80's
— Adam Schefter (@SullyFootball) April 27, 2017

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:03 PM

#3508

Cisco0623
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Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Trade back to 6. Then trade back to 20

and then trade back to 30.

and then to 60.

and then out of the draft entirely.

zero picks made.

We could accrue 32 7th rounders!

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:04 PM

#3509

49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Predator85:
My guess is Jets trade with us to grab Trubisky/Watson. They get their FQB, reshirt him for a couple years, when he's ready, Brady and maybe Bellichick is on the outs.

What do the Jets have to offer?

Hackenberg

Conklin

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:04 PM

#3510

ComeOnDeberg
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Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Trade back to 6. Then trade back to 20

and then trade back to 30.

and then to 60.

and then out of the draft entirely.

zero picks made.

We could accrue 32 7th rounders!

or all the picks in the 2019 draft