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FL9er · 2017-04-07T16:09:16-07:00

I try to do this every year but haven't had any time. Here's Albert Breer confirming that the 49ers like Foster and Fournette; cue the vomiting emoticon from Heroism and a spamming of Fournette vids from Rascal. • WHO'S FALLING? From a talent standpoint, Alabama pass rusher Tim Williams is a Top 10 pick. I've heard him called a more explosive Bruce Irvin, and Irvin went 15th overall in 2013. But there's the drug issue (Williams admitted at the combine to failing tests in college), and the gun charge, and a real question as to whether or not he'll be able to grow past his problems. "He's up there with the top pure pass rushers," said one area scout assigned to the Tide. "The real question is his personality, and the trust factor with teams. The problems aren't rare, it's more whether the team can trust the person. Can he work through the problems? Is he smart enough to work through the problems?" Worth noting: Past personality issues with pass-rushers (Randy Gregory, Aldon Smith, Greg Hardy, Dion Jordan) aren't helping Williams. I'd be surprised if he goes in the first round. And he may fall further than that. • WHAT'S SAN FRANCISCO DOING? It's the most asked question I'm hearing from teams, and Stanford pass-rusher Solomon Thomas has long appeared to be the leader in the clubhouse to go No. 2 after Cleveland takes Texas A&M freak Myles Garrett off the board. But I'd be surprised if GM John Lynch doesn't make an effort to try and deal down and accumulate more draft capital. I've heard from a number of people that the Niners like Alabama LB Reuben Foster and LSU RB Leonard Fournette. • WILL THE BEARS TAKE A SAFETY? Word is the Bears like both LSU's Jamal Adams and Ohio State's Malik Hooker, who are widely considered two of the best safety prospects to come out of the college ranks in years. The problem? It's the idea of drafting a safety that high, and whether the impact will meet the price of the third pick in the draft. That would naturally make the Bears another candidate to at least explore trading down. • IS ANYONE LOOKING TO TRADE UP? As of right now, the ranks are thin, and for a couple reasons. First, the quarterbacks haven't built the momentum that Jared Goff and Carson Wentz did in 2016, and that position is usually a driver in major moves at the top of the first round. Second, as strong as this draft is, where it's strong it's also deep (receiver, tight end, corner, safety, edge rusher), so plenty of teams are thinking that the difference between, say, 5 and 15 or 10 and 20 isn't huge. • HOW WILL THE BACKS SHAKE OUT? I know a couple teams that like Dalvin Cook over Leonard Fournette, because of the 21st-century style of back Cook is. (It's similar to why the Colts took Edgerrin James over Ricky Williams a generation ago.) And there are teams that like Joe Mixon, as a player, more than Cook. Jaguars coach Doug Marrone said to me last week he wants a team that can run it when the opponent knows what's coming. So would Fournette be in play at 4? I'm hearing Mixon is likely to go in round two or three. Whenever he goes, it's a big and complex story. Add in Christian McCaffrey and Alvin Kamara, and this historic class of backs will be pretty compelling to watch when we get to Philly. • AND THE QUARTERBACKS? Remember, everyone believed the Jaguars were not taking a quarterback with the third pick in 2014. And then they did. So take that into account when I say that there's very little buzz for the quarterbacks inside the top few picks, with Buffalo at 10 (yes, even with Tyrod Taylor under contract) being the earliest selecting team being connected to the group. This one, of course, will evolve in the coming weeks. * * * ttp://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/04/06/richard-sherman-trade-talk-seattle-seahawks-nflpicks More to come. Others are free to add to the thread.

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:54 PM

#3481

rathman4481
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We are targeting Trey Downe at number 2. I about went into a fit of rage until I realized something

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:55 PM

#3482

NYniner85
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Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Maiocco is now saying we've discussed trading with six teams.

Lynch is a rookie GM and other teams are trying take advantage of that

He's not doing this by himself...He's got a form GM and Peters who both have been doing this for a long time.

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:56 PM

#3483

Fanaticofnfl
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I spent a minute and a half googling Trey Downe and found nothing. What's the joke?

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:56 PM

#3484

Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by rathman4481:
We are targeting Trey Downe at number 2. I about went into a fit of rage until I realized something

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:56 PM

#3485

ComeOnDeberg
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Originally posted by rathman4481:
We are targeting Trey Downe at number 2. I about went into a fit of rage until I realized something

What did I miss.

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:56 PM

#3486

NCommand
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Originally posted by VDSF:

Matt Barrows‏ @mattbarrows

Sources: #49ers targeting Trey Downe with the No, 2 overall pick. Most prospects have detractors; everyone loves Trey.

I love MB!

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:56 PM

#3487

NYniner85
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
There have been reports that the Browns are looking to trade BACK from #12. You're dealing with Moneyball Inc. More picks is never enough.

I saw that they wanted to move back up....

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:56 PM

#3488

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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
I spent a minute and a half googling Trey Downe and found nothing. What's the joke?

Trey Downe.....................Treeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy-------Ddddddddddddddd-------ownnnnnnnnnnnneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:57 PM

#3489

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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
I spent a minute and a half googling Trey Downe and found nothing. What's the joke?

Trade Down.

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:57 PM

#3490

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Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
Originally posted by rathman4481:
We are targeting Trey Downe at number 2. I about went into a fit of rage until I realized something

What did I miss.

Was going to say WTF is Trey Downe then it hit me lmao! Good one

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:58 PM

#3491

ComeOnDeberg
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Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
I spent a minute and a half googling Trey Downe and found nothing. What's the joke?

Trade Down.

I'm really laughing

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:58 PM

#3492

Fanaticofnfl
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Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
I spent a minute and a half googling Trey Downe and found nothing. What's the joke?

Trade Down.

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:59 PM

#3493

NCommand
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
There have been reports that the Browns are looking to trade BACK from #12. You're dealing with Moneyball Inc. More picks is never enough.

Exactly. The owner gets his QB #1 and the money ball team tries to acquire additional picks.

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:59 PM

#3494

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Broncos want to move up pretty badly apparently. They all in on McCaffrey.

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:00 PM

#3495

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Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
They have 1st, 2nd, two 3rds, 5th, 6th, 7th.

I'd take their 1st, 2nd, and late 3rd and something next yr

If it the trade down happened it would likely be for their 2nd and a future 5th or 6th, something like that.

From 2 to 6??

Originally posted by NYniner85:
With Myles Garrett reportedly set to go No. 1, source says #49ers have discussed trade for No. 2 with six teams.https://t.co/C8FjfpkyC8
— Matt Maiocco (@MaioccoNBCS) April 27, 2017

6 teams now

Man oh man. Getting my hopes up for a HUGE trade now.