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FL9er · 2017-04-07T16:09:16-07:00

I try to do this every year but haven't had any time. Here's Albert Breer confirming that the 49ers like Foster and Fournette; cue the vomiting emoticon from Heroism and a spamming of Fournette vids from Rascal. • WHO'S FALLING? From a talent standpoint, Alabama pass rusher Tim Williams is a Top 10 pick. I've heard him called a more explosive Bruce Irvin, and Irvin went 15th overall in 2013. But there's the drug issue (Williams admitted at the combine to failing tests in college), and the gun charge, and a real question as to whether or not he'll be able to grow past his problems. "He's up there with the top pure pass rushers," said one area scout assigned to the Tide. "The real question is his personality, and the trust factor with teams. The problems aren't rare, it's more whether the team can trust the person. Can he work through the problems? Is he smart enough to work through the problems?" Worth noting: Past personality issues with pass-rushers (Randy Gregory, Aldon Smith, Greg Hardy, Dion Jordan) aren't helping Williams. I'd be surprised if he goes in the first round. And he may fall further than that. • WHAT'S SAN FRANCISCO DOING? It's the most asked question I'm hearing from teams, and Stanford pass-rusher Solomon Thomas has long appeared to be the leader in the clubhouse to go No. 2 after Cleveland takes Texas A&M freak Myles Garrett off the board. But I'd be surprised if GM John Lynch doesn't make an effort to try and deal down and accumulate more draft capital. I've heard from a number of people that the Niners like Alabama LB Reuben Foster and LSU RB Leonard Fournette. • WILL THE BEARS TAKE A SAFETY? Word is the Bears like both LSU's Jamal Adams and Ohio State's Malik Hooker, who are widely considered two of the best safety prospects to come out of the college ranks in years. The problem? It's the idea of drafting a safety that high, and whether the impact will meet the price of the third pick in the draft. That would naturally make the Bears another candidate to at least explore trading down. • IS ANYONE LOOKING TO TRADE UP? As of right now, the ranks are thin, and for a couple reasons. First, the quarterbacks haven't built the momentum that Jared Goff and Carson Wentz did in 2016, and that position is usually a driver in major moves at the top of the first round. Second, as strong as this draft is, where it's strong it's also deep (receiver, tight end, corner, safety, edge rusher), so plenty of teams are thinking that the difference between, say, 5 and 15 or 10 and 20 isn't huge. • HOW WILL THE BACKS SHAKE OUT? I know a couple teams that like Dalvin Cook over Leonard Fournette, because of the 21st-century style of back Cook is. (It's similar to why the Colts took Edgerrin James over Ricky Williams a generation ago.) And there are teams that like Joe Mixon, as a player, more than Cook. Jaguars coach Doug Marrone said to me last week he wants a team that can run it when the opponent knows what's coming. So would Fournette be in play at 4? I'm hearing Mixon is likely to go in round two or three. Whenever he goes, it's a big and complex story. Add in Christian McCaffrey and Alvin Kamara, and this historic class of backs will be pretty compelling to watch when we get to Philly. • AND THE QUARTERBACKS? Remember, everyone believed the Jaguars were not taking a quarterback with the third pick in 2014. And then they did. So take that into account when I say that there's very little buzz for the quarterbacks inside the top few picks, with Buffalo at 10 (yes, even with Tyrod Taylor under contract) being the earliest selecting team being connected to the group. This one, of course, will evolve in the coming weeks. * * * ttp://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/04/06/richard-sherman-trade-talk-seattle-seahawks-nflpicks More to come. Others are free to add to the thread.

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:09 PM

#3526

mayo49
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I want Fournette now.

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:09 PM

#3527

Fanaticofnfl
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What if we trade back and then the Browns pick Trubisky #1 because it was all just a scam? lol

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:10 PM

#3528

ComeOnDeberg
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My concern is that we will be taken for bad trade.

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:10 PM

#3529

WRATHman44
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Originally posted by smithgdwg:
So if we take Trubiski at #2 will people be upset?

Of course.

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:10 PM

#3530

nj9er
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If I had to guess 6 teams- Jets, Bears, Houston, Buffalo, Browns, and Panthers

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:10 PM

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ComeOnDeberg
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Member Milestone: This is post number 1,200 for ComeOnDeberg.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
What if we trade back and then the Browns pick Trubisky #1 because it was all just a scam? lol

We won't do anything until they officially make their pick

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:11 PM

#3532

Fanaticofnfl
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Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
My concern is that we will be taken for bad trade.

Roger Goodell: "The San Francisco 49ers have traded the #2 overall pick to the New England Patriots for a box of cookies. With the second pick in the NFL draft..."

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:11 PM

#3533

9ersLiferInChicago
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Sounds like we may be trading back. Just saw on NFL Network that up to 3 teams have contacted us about a trade out. Not bad.

As long as we net a 2nd this year and a 1st next year, I'm all for it!

That will be the very least. But I think it'll be more than that.

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:12 PM

#3534

Cisco0623
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Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
My concern is that we will be taken for bad trade.

Im not worried. He has Peters and Mayhew (former GM) with him. They have their s**t in order. I don't think they make a trade until they are on the clock.

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:12 PM

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Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
My concern is that we will be taken for bad trade.

Can't really be taken for a bad trade, you get the best offer you can and go with it. With Lynch, Mayhew, Peters and Shanahan I don't see anyone putting one over on the 49ers. They'll do fine. People just need to keep their expectations realistic. The 49ers won't be getting back Eagles or Rams style compensation, that only happens when there are truly elite QB prospects, none of the guys this year qualify.

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:12 PM

#3536

ComeOnDeberg
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Originally posted by nj9er:
If I had to guess 6 teams- Jets, Bears, Houston, Buffalo, Browns, and Panthers

Good guess. II thought Arizona too

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:12 PM

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dmax
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Originally posted by smithgdwg:
So if we take Trubiski at #2 will people be upset?

Yes

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:13 PM

#3538

captveg
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Trade that MF'er for a huge draft pick payload, please.

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:14 PM

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hondakillerzx
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
My concern is that we will be taken for bad trade.

Can't really be taken for a bad trade, you get the best offer you can and go with it. With Lynch, Mayhew, Peters and Shanahan I don't see anyone putting one over on the 49ers. They'll do fine. People just need to keep their expectations realistic. The 49ers won't be getting back Eagles or Rams style compensation, that only happens when there are truly elite QB prospects, none of the guys this year qualify.

true but people might bite on trubisky if theyre desperate enough

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:14 PM

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Ninerfan84
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Originally posted by nj9er:
If I had to guess 6 teams- Jets, Bears, Houston, Buffalo, Browns, and Panthers

It would take far too much for the Texans to move up. Bears, Panthers, Cincy, Cleveland, NO, Washington