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Solomon Thomas--Stanford

Originally posted by Lobo49er:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Lobo49er:
Here's the link to AA grade 2015:


I don't think our DL woes are solved by losing Dorsey and adding Mitchell. I think our Dline can be really good with the addition of some Fat 2gapping 1Tech Nosetackles who can stay healthy for the whole darn year (please, Lynch, sign a fatty in FA, and draft Vanderdoes/Tui'akldoraakkUSC/Qualls, etc.). AND we need a Leo. This, in combination with, hopefully!, a scheme that is clear and concise to the DLineman, should allow our front to be really good. Something like this:

Buckner- FAT NT - Armstead - 2nd rd Leo pick

Dial, Mitchell, Blair, Jones can each backup 3t or 5t (obviously some would be better at one more so than the other). We need another Fat NT to backup the Fat NT, and then we cross our fingers that Lynch and/or Tank and/or Eli turn it on to backup our Leo.

I do agree with you (I think) that Leo isn't a huge need at this stage in the rebuild. We couldn't stop the run worth s**t last year, and we have to get that under control. I see that best happening with NTs and scheme, and health.

Thanks for that...I still didn't see him in the article I posted among the top 10 in PRP? Anyway, so he's a 3rd down pass rusher in certain packages? That's not stopping me from drafting the best run stopper in the country who happens to be a top end pass rusher as well.

I'll add the other names you mentioned are all back end depth nothing more. If you have a chance at taking someone who's got justin smith or aaron Donald talent you do it.

If Thomas is drafted, I will homer it up big time. I'm just not on his bandwagon at this point, nor do I see it likely to happen unless he actually does get drafted.

And if he does get drafted, and is Aaron Donald for us, I'll look forward to the "I told u so"'s

I don't think you will receive them from ppl on here, more like I'm glad we hit on a great player and things are looking bright, we all share the same goal and that's for the niners to get this pick right and continue to get better and get where this franchise belongs..
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by jersey49er:
I'll agree with this, honestly Even in college he didn't jump off the tape, Buckner was always the guy..

Yup I remember watch AA during the draft process and was like who the hell is 44 it was clear as day who was the more polished prospect.

Very Glad 44 is a niner now, he's a star in the making..still waiting to buy his jersey tho lol
Originally posted by jersey49er:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by jersey49er:
I'll agree with this, honestly Even in college he didn't jump off the tape, Buckner was always the guy..

Yup I remember watch AA during the draft process and was like who the hell is 44 it was clear as day who was the more polished prospect.

Very Glad 44 is a niner now, he's a star in the making..still waiting to buy his jersey tho lol

Yeah I'm holding out on all new niner jerseys
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by jersey49er:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by jersey49er:
I'll agree with this, honestly Even in college he didn't jump off the tape, Buckner was always the guy..

Yup I remember watch AA during the draft process and was like who the hell is 44 it was clear as day who was the more polished prospect.

Very Glad 44 is a niner now, he's a star in the making..still waiting to buy his jersey tho lol

Yeah I'm holding out on all new niner jerseys

Ever since I bought a Kap jersey, I've been gun shy
The back and forth on Thomas is off base IMO. He and AA wouldn't even play the same position in base. Whether it's with his hand in the dirt or up Thomas would be on the edge.

AA would be the 3 or 4 tech. Thomas may slide inside on nickel but could stay outside on a percentage of snaps as well. It's quite likely that Thomas, Buckner, and AA would be on the field all at the same time on a high percentage of the snaps. The talk about AA vs Thomas is irrelevant.
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Ever since I bought a Kap jersey, I've been gun shy

Lol same here
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by SteveYoung:
I love Soloman Thomas.

He can play anywhere and will play with 100% effort and passion. When Lynch was talking up Earl Mitchell he talked about working hard, setting and example and running to the ball. Watch plays of Thomas chasing down running backs on screens or tosses. He goes 100 miles an hour all the time.

A few other things:

*Earl Mitchell is not a NT. Never has been. He is a penetrating DT who has never been stout vs the run. I don't think we are done at the NT position and we will look to add a true run stuffer for the middle of our D-line.

*I don't see a spot for Arik Armstead (6'7, 300), Quinton Dial (6'5, 320) or Ronald Blair (6'2, 285) on the D-line. Where will they play? Just because Armstead was a high draft pick does not mean we will play him where he doesn't fit. He is not a DE in a 4-3. He lacks the explosiveness to bend the edge. He is not a DT because he doesn't play with leverage and will get owned in the run game. I think he will get moved. I love Blair but again, where does he fit? We may keep him around at DE if Harold doesn't show anything.

*We need to add at least one more speed rusher (Jordan Willis) to fit the role Frank Clark plays on nickle downs when our LDE (Michael Bennett) slides in to DT to replace the NT on passing downs. Soloman Thomas is a perfect fit to be our Michael Bennett.

Draft:

1- Solomon Thomas, DE- Stanford 6'3, 273
The announcers in the North Carolina game said it best. "Soloman Thomas, Whats your position? Football" This guy is a monster. He singlehandedly takes over games. His work ethic, passion and leadership are second to none. Line him up at LEO, line him up at DT. Put him at OLB. It doesn't matter. He will make plays and fly to the ball. I don't care that we took two D linemen in consecutive years. Those were Baalke's picks. Thomas will be Lynch's first ever pick and if he is anything like Justin Smith he will be a dominant force and a team leader for a decade. I really like Marshon Lattimore but it starts in the trenches. He will play the role that Michael Bennett plays in Seattle.

2- Jordan Willis, DE- Kansas State 6'3, 255
Pure, explosive pass rusher. Might be the best speed rusher in the draft. Very similar to Cliff Avril in Seattle. We desperatley need a pass rush to make this D work. A nickel D line of Jordan Willis - Soloman Thomas - DeForest Buckner could be deadly.

3- Dalvin Tomlinson, NT- Alabama 6'3, 310
Wins with leverage, power and technique. Beast of a man who is also very smart and could have gone to Harvard. He is leader and a model citizen. I love this guy.

Seahawks D-Line:

LDE- Michael Bennett (6'3, 273) ----- Frank Clark (6'1, 270)
NT- Ahtyba Rubin (6'3, 330) ----- John Jenkins (6'4, 345)
DT- Jarran Reed (6'3, 310) ---- Tony McDaniel (6'7, 305)
RDE- Cliff Avril (6'3, 260) ----- Damontre Moore (6'4, 250)

Nickel D-Line

LDE- Frank Clark
DT- Michael Bennett
DT- Jarran Reed
RDE- Cliff Avril

Compared to ours:

LDE- Soloman Thomas (6'3, 273) -----Jordan Willis (6'3, 255)
NT- Dalvin Tomlinson (6'3, 310) ----- Mike Purcell (6'3, 305)
DT- DeForest Buckner (6'7, 300) ---- Earl Mitchell (6'2, 296)
RDE- Aaron Lynch (6'5, 249) ---- Eli Harold (6'3, 247) or Ronald Blair (6'2, 285)

Nickel D-Line:

LDE- Jordan Willis
DT- Soloman Thomas
DT- DeForest Buckner
RDE- Aaron Lynch

It just makes sense to re-work the D-lines. We don't have the personell to run the scheme Shanahan and Lynch want to run so we will look to the draft to find guys that fit. Thomas, Willis and Tomlinson are absolutly prefect for what we run and are high character guys while Armstead, Blair and Dial are not.

^---once again what changed since then?

Nothing. I love Soloman Thomas. Always have. But the thought of 3 straight dlinemen makes me cringe.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
It's not hate it's being realistic...I can't believe the blind love some of you have for him. Please show me some of his top end talent? Where's the film?

Go look back at the AA thread I constantly defended him, but that was before we changed schemes and had a chance at drafting a superior prospect in Thomas. AA wasn't the 17th best player in that draft and a new GM/HC shouldn't have to pass up top end talent for some other GM's mistake

Good post
Originally posted by SteveYoung:
Nothing. I love Soloman Thomas. Always have. But the thought of 3 straight dlinemen makes me cringe.

Pathners took DL in the 1st and 2nd rd in 2013 in star and short plus has Hardy coming off a pro-bowl that turned out well...they then drafted Ealy the following yr in the 2nd and butler in the 1st this past yr.

Sometimes it's better to get the best talent and figure it out later.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Mar 21, 2017 at 3:56 PM ]
Originally posted by SteveYoung:
Nothing. I love Soloman Thomas. Always have. But the thought of 3 straight dlinemen makes me cringe.

The draft is about getting the best players possible. Do you think the Rams have any regrets over taking Aaron Donald after having drafted Robert Quinn and Michael Brockers?


If Thomas is the best guy available, you draft him and if he turns out to be as good as advertised, nobody will care one iota who was drafted before him.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
The draft is about getting the best players possible. Do you think the Rams have any regrets over taking Aaron Donald after having drafted Robert Quinn and Michael Brockers?


If Thomas is the best guy available, you draft him and if he turns out to be as good as advertised, nobody will care one iota who was drafted before him.

Agreed
I haven't seen this highlight clip yet



How anyone thinks we should pass on this guy just blows my mind
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
The draft is about getting the best players possible. Do you think the Rams have any regrets over taking Aaron Donald after having drafted Robert Quinn and Michael Brockers?


If Thomas is the best guy available, you draft him and if he turns out to be as good as advertised, nobody will care one iota who was drafted before him.

What have the Rams done?? How has drafting all those Dlinemen benefitted them? They stink.

Same for the Jets. Same for the Lions when they took all those receivers.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
I haven't seen this highlight clip yet



How anyone thinks we should pass on this guy just blows my mind

Christian McCaffrey sighting at 1:26.


Lol....
There is a fine line of drafting the best player available or drafting the best player available at a position of need.
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