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Solomon Thomas--Stanford

Originally posted by jreff22:
Drafting him and f**king with his natural position would be stupid. Let him do his work at his normal position.

What are you talking about he played all over the place zero to 9 tech...he's not a fit in one spot guy dude can play all over and I don't see why not at LEO when need be
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Originally posted by Jasta:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Short answer...no.

why?

Because he's never played the position. No matter how much you think he can, HE'S NEVER PLAYED LEO. He is an interior rusher on passing downs.

His combine numbers cannot be used to prove something he's never done.

So aside from Myles Garr-aint-happening... who is the best Leo in the draft? Barnett? Taco?

2nd would be Barnett, but not at 2. I've seen him mocked from 10 to late teens. He's a trade down target. Everybody else is probably in the 20's.

Thomas is the better talent 1v1 against Barnett. But Barnett is the better prospect at Leo, his natural position.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Drafting him and f**king with his natural position would be stupid. Let him do his work at his normal position.

What are you talking about he played all over the place zero to 9 tech...he's not a fit in one spot guy dude can play all over and I don't see why not at LEO when need be

He's a strong side DE that will kick into DT on passing downs. That's the opinion of every evaluator.

This isn't college competition. He's not going to be a dominant force rushing from the outside.
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by GEEK:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Short answer...no.

why?

Because he's never played the position. No matter how much you think he can, HE'S NEVER PLAYED LEO. He is an interior rusher on passing downs.

His combine numbers cannot be used to prove something he's never done.

Yeah but his combine results might show a potential role regardless of his college position. That being said, he's a DE not a LEO

Drafting him and f**king with his natural position would be stupid. Let him do his work at his normal position.

Aldon Smith played a role he never played before as a rookie and he did great. Not sure there are too many interior defender at 270 in the NFL. Aldon Smith is only an inch taller and 10lbs lighter entering the league. He also got some of his sacks playing interior and did some stunting inside as well. Not saying you are wrong but I would like to know why other than, it is not his natural position.
[ Edited by LottOfDefense on Mar 14, 2017 at 5:14 PM ]
Originally posted by jreff22:
He's a strong side DE that will kick into DT on passing downs. That's the opinion of every evaluator.

This isn't college competition. He's not going to be a dominant force rushing from the outside.

You have no idea...and what the heck is wrong with having a guy in the inside dominant the run and being a strong pass rush? Mitchell isn't doing that AA overall hasn't done that bucket is still learning how to stop the run etc...you need a strong DL it's the most important position on defense IMO.

Also no one said we can grab a fast edge rusher we have more than one pick dude. If we don't trade down he should be the pick imo.
Originally posted by LottOfDefense:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by GEEK:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Short answer...no.

why?

Because he's never played the position. No matter how much you think he can, HE'S NEVER PLAYED LEO. He is an interior rusher on passing downs.

His combine numbers cannot be used to prove something he's never done.

Yeah but his combine results might show a potential role regardless of his college position. That being said, he's a DE not a LEO

Drafting him and f**king with his natural position would be stupid. Let him do his work at his normal position.

Aldon Smith played a role he never played before as a rookie and he did great. Not sure there are too many interior defender at 270 in the NFL. Aldon Smith is only an inch taller and 10lbs lighter entering the league. He also got some of his sacks playing interior and did some stunting inside as well. Not saying you are wrong but I would like to know why other than, it is not his natural position.

Transitioning from DE to OLB still had him rushing the passer. He wasn't going from rushing at DT to LEO.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by jreff22:
He's a strong side DE that will kick into DT on passing downs. That's the opinion of every evaluator.

This isn't college competition. He's not going to be a dominant force rushing from the outside.

You have no idea...and what the heck is wrong with having a guy in the inside dominant the run and being a strong pass rush? Mitchell isn't doing that AA overall hasn't done that bucket is still learning how to stop the run etc...you need a strong DL it's the most important position on defense IMO.

Also no one said we can grab a fast edge rusher we have more than one pick dude. If we don't trade down he should be the pick imo.

Yes or no? Is Thomas best suited to play LDE and play inside on passing downs?
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Drafting him and f**king with his natural position would be stupid. Let him do his work at his normal position.

What are you talking about he played all over the place zero to 9 tech...he's not a fit in one spot guy dude can play all over and I don't see why not at LEO when need be

He's a strong side DE that will kick into DT on passing downs. That's the opinion of every evaluator.

This isn't college competition. He's not going to be a dominant force rushing from the outside.


Yea I'm not sure about trying to fit him in as a Leo. He's a damn good interior rusher. Yes it would be great if there was a star Leo there for us to draft at 2 but there isn't. So we can either reach on one or we can upgrade big time by drafting Thomas, or we can draft a safety. Then grab a leo in the second if the board matches.
[ Edited by GhostOfBaalke on Mar 14, 2017 at 5:22 PM ]
Originally posted by jreff22:
Yes or no? Is Thomas best suited to play LDE and play inside on passing downs?

He can play 5 tech and 3 tech and some draft analysis said he can be a 3-4 OLB.

Look at Noah spence he has the same length as Thomas but had a slower 40, 3 cone, and shuttle plus Thomas is 15 lbs heavier...spence is mike smith's edge rusher and had 6 sacks in a limited role this yr.

Go look a K mack's combine numbers near identical to Solomon who's 15 lbs heavier...he's a athletic freak who can plan all over the place.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Yes or no? Is Thomas best suited to play LDE and play inside on passing downs?

He can play 5 tech and 3 tech and some draft analysis said he can be a 3-4 OLB.

Look at Noah spence he has the same length as Thomas but had a slower 40, 3 cone, and shuttle plus Thomas is 15 lbs heavier...spence is mike smith's edge rusher and had 6 sacks in a limited role this yr.

Go look a K mack's combine numbers near identical to Solomon who's 15 lbs heavier...he's a athletic freak who can plan all over the place.

I don't care about combine numbers. His strength, technique, and career have molded him into an interior rusher.

I don't know why everybody takes this as a knock on him. Would anybody want to move Myles because he's a great athlete? Let the kids do what they do best.
Originally posted by jreff22:
I don't care about combine numbers. His strength, technique, and career have molded him into an interior rusher.

I don't know why everybody takes this as a knock on him. Would anybody want to move Myles because he's a great athlete? Let the kids do what they do best.

He can play all over the place not just one spot...he played outside and inside. I don't care if you don't care about combine numbers, it's shows he's more than athletic enough to play on the outside and strong enough to play inside. That's why they have the combine
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Mar 14, 2017 at 7:18 PM ]
Originally posted by NYniner85:
He can play all place not just one spot...he played outside and inside. I don't care if you don't care about combine numbers, it's shows he's more than athletic enough to play on the outside and strong enough to play inside. That's why they have the combine



For the record I want Hooker
[ Edited by Quest4six on Mar 14, 2017 at 6:45 PM ]
Nothing about this guy really excites me. I think he will be a good player but I just don't see a top 5 or even top 10 player/talent
Originally posted by Quest4six:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
He can play all place not just one spot...he played outside and inside. I don't care if you don't care about combine numbers, it's shows he's more than athletic enough to play on the outside and strong enough to play inside. That's why they have the combine



For the record I want Hooker

Lol nice...well if we're moving ward to FS hooker doesn't make sense, best case is a trade down. We will see
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by jreff22:
I don't care about combine numbers. His strength, technique, and career have molded him into an interior rusher.

I don't know why everybody takes this as a knock on him. Would anybody want to move Myles because he's a great athlete? Let the kids do what they do best.

He can play all over the place not just one spot...he played outside and inside. I don't care if you don't care about combine numbers, it's shows he's more than athletic enough to play on the outside and strong enough to play inside. That's why they have the combine

So he going to be drafted to play LEO? The biggest hole we have on the DL, he's going to fill that spot full time?

Every single scouting report is wrong? He's really an outside rusher and Stanford was using him incorrectly the whole time?
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