Solomon Thomas--Stanford

I like this guy a lot!

It's looking like this guy will be one of the most talented players available at #2. I can see he's a great prospect, but I'm concerned about his fit with this team. He's long and powerful, but a bit of a tweener, a DEs body, but played mostly inside at Stanford. With a player this good that's called versatility and is a positive trait. However, we have a wealth of those long, powerful pocket-pusher types. I feel our greater need is a weakside edge rusher, lighter, nimbler, with a nose for the QB. Someone like Garrett or Derek Barnett.

Thoughts? Am I wrong to have this concern?

With Garrett gone, and if we don't go QB, then he's who I want.

Originally posted by SammyFrancisco:
It's looking like this guy will be one of the most talented players available at #2. I can see he's a great prospect, but I'm concerned about his fit with this team. He's long and powerful, but a bit of a tweener, a DEs body, but played mostly inside at Stanford. With a player this good that's called versatility and is a positive trait. However, we have a wealth of those long, powerful pocket-pusher types. I feel our greater need is a weakside edge rusher, lighter, nimbler, with a nose for the QB. Someone like Garrett or Derek Barnett.

Thoughts? Am I wrong to have this concern?

The thing about Thomas is he is an athletic freak. Just because he played inside at Stanford doesn't mean he can't shift outside. Using the combine to measure their physical talent Thomas is closer to Garett than Barnett is.

Originally sosted by Furlow:
My bro thinks Garrett is "goofy" and off balance. Pointed to how he ran his 40 and how he looked in the drills. Hard to argue against that, because he did look a little "off." But I figure if you're 6'5" 275, run a 4.6 40 and have a 41" vertical, you're going to look funny because you're basically breaking laws of physics lol.

Just about the worst running form ive seen in a great athlete.
Oh well, bob hayes had bad form also.

Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:

Bosa put up 28 reps at his pro day with longer arms, so strength is pretty much a wash. He also struck me as more flexible which is something you can't really tell from the measurables (you can from some of the drills), but is important, especially off the edge. And he was 7 months younger when drafted. Teams were looking at Bosa as a 3-4 OLB potentially while Thomas seems to be a 4-3 strongside end, a 3-4 DE, or an undersized 4-3 DT (he could rotate there on passing downs).

3/8 inch longer arms...bosa does seem pretty damn flexible though for his size

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by SammyFrancisco:

It's looking like this guy will be one of the most talented players available at #2. I can see he's a great prospect, but I'm concerned about his fit with this team. He's long and powerful, but a bit of a tweener, a DEs body, but played mostly inside at Stanford. With a player this good that's called versatility and is a positive trait. However, we have a wealth of those long, powerful pocket-pusher types. I feel our greater need is a weakside edge rusher, lighter, nimbler, with a nose for the QB. Someone like Garrett or Derek Barnett.

Thoughts? Am I wrong to have this concern?

The thing about Thomas is he is an athletic freak. Just because he played inside at Stanford doesn't mean he can't shift outside. Using the combine to measure their physical talent Thomas is closer to Garett than Barnett is.

True. But Barnett, like Elvis dumerville, has an outside pass rusher's mentality and skill set, which exceeds his combine measurables. We've seen guys like Eli Harold, or Manny Lawson back in the day, who have the physical skill set but not the intangibles that make them a force getting after the qb.

Originally posted by SammyFrancisco:
True. But Barnett, like Elvis dumerville, has an outside pass rusher's mentality and skill set, which exceeds his combine measurables. We've seen guys like Eli Harold, or Manny Lawson back in the day, who have the physical skill set but not the intangibles that make them a force getting after the qb.

You're talking like Thomas isn't a pass rusher. You should check out some of his game film dude is a monster who dominates the pass rush and plays the run as just as well.

Has plays I have seen, that reminds me of Justin Smith.

Originally posted by Happyninerfan:

Has plays I have seen, that reminds me of Justin Smith.

Does he actually or you just read his draft profile?

No, Have watch a lot of his games, is in my area of Silicon Valley, Stanford games on to watch. Have you watched a lot of Stanford games?

Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:
Does he actually or you just read his draft profile?

Originally posted by Happyninerfan:

No, Have watch a lot of his games, is in my area of Silicon Valley, Stanford games on to watch. Have you watched a lot of Stanford games?

I watched a few full games this season. But I did see his a good amount of his tape. Just funny how people always compare prospects to their comp in draft profile.

Yeah I don't really get the Justin Smith comparisons. Well I do and I don't. Same build sort of and both have good hand movement and play smart and quick to diagnose plays but I think Justin's game was more strength where Thomas is more quickness.

If we can't trade down and don't think the QBs are worth it then he's my guy. Tweener or not this dude will make plays for anyone who drafts him.

I dont want to trade down, I want Thomas as the RDE/LEO

Originally posted by cools:
I dont want to trade down, I want Thomas as the RDE/LEO

Wow. That seems a bit high.