The Browns draft Myles Garrett, who should the 49ers take?

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

I think people get stuck on BPA to much. It should be best value available. Each position gets a point system for the team and gets graded to that point value. For instance QBs get a 20 point value and let's say our grade for Mitch is a 14/20. While edge rusher gets a 18 point value due to it not being as important as a QB but still very important. Myles Garrett would probably get a 18/18 value. A RB like Fournette could grade perfect on a value chart but how high of value does RB actually hold? 10? 8? I was listening to Michael Lombardi talk about this way of drafting and was really interested in it and thought it was very insightful.

BPA already means most valuable player available. No one lists the highest rated prospects out of 100 in big boards without factoring in positional value.

Goff and Wentz were arguably the BPA last year because the Rams and Eagles valued them more highly than any other players at any other positions (at least among teams in range to trade up).

Everyone on here arguing we should pick the BPA is arguing we should pick the most valuable player available. I don't agree with strictly going best (or most valuable) player though - you have to factor in who would be the most valuable to the 49ers given our current roster. Even if Jonathan Allen ends up being the BPA, he may not add the most value to the 49ers because we'd be benching Armstead to make room for him. Allen would be more valuable to other teams that have needs at 3-4 DE (or DT for teams that run a 4-3 defense).

Originally posted by HERN:

What if the browns draft Garrett and the 49ers trade there 2nd rounder for Jimmy G, who's the pick at #2?

Can't trade back.

Mike Williams? Fournette? Maybe another edge rusher moves up that high before all is said and done.

Originally posted by HERN:

What if the browns draft Garrett and the 49ers trade there 2nd rounder for Jimmy G, who's the pick at #2?

Can't trade back.

Allen

Originally posted by Koldo:

If we can find a trade partner, Tim Williams, Reuben Foster or Mike Williams would be excellent picks. If not, Allen should be the pick. I think he could be even better than Aaron Donald.

This.

Originally posted by Pick4Six:

Originally posted by m_brockalexander:

Why isn't Rueben Foster on this list? This team needs to shore up the middle of the defense in the worst way and he could be the answer to that problem (along with a late round or free agent NT).

Good point, I added him now. My only concern with Foster isn't him as a player but that he's not an immediate need for the 49ers. We'll probably go with a QB or Garrett, depending on the next two games.

Not a need??
So you're cool with Bellore, Wilhoite, and Hodges?
Foster is gonna be a beast guarantee.

Depends on free agency, but if Garrett is gone, I'm either going Kizer or Trubisky.

Originally posted by theninermaniac:

Depends on free agency, but if Garrett is gone, I'm either going Kizer or Trubisky.

You don't draft a qb at 2 you can get end of first (as it looks now - none of these guys scream franchise, but some will be propped up for sure by draft day)

I would take the bpa if garret is gone. We have so many holes taking a day one starter is a good thing. I personally prefer we rebuild the defense. Hell, I wouldn't mind loading up on defense this draft, but we have no idea who the GM or coach will be so - blah!

We are so bad I expect another top ten pick next year so just gotta draft really well and get these kids on the field - go after a qb next year.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by theninermaniac:
Depends on free agency, but if Garrett is gone, I'm either going Kizer or Trubisky.

You don't draft a qb at 2 you can get end of first (as it looks now - none of these guys scream franchise, but some will be propped up for sure by draft day)

I would take the bpa if garret is gone. We have so many holes taking a day one starter is a good thing. I personally prefer we rebuild the defense. Hell, I wouldn't mind loading up on defense this draft, but we have no idea who the GM or coach will be so - blah!

We are so bad I expect another top ten pick next year so just gotta draft really well and get these kids on the field - go after a qb next year.

Both Kizer and Trubisky will be drafted in top 15, maybe top 5.

Originally posted by HERN:

What if the browns draft Garrett and the 49ers trade there 2nd rounder for Jimmy G, who's the pick at #2?

Can't trade back.

Someone will want 1 of those qb's. You can get that 2nd round pick back.

Originally posted by theninermaniac:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by theninermaniac:
Depends on free agency, but if Garrett is gone, I'm either going Kizer or Trubisky.

You don't draft a qb at 2 you can get end of first (as it looks now - none of these guys scream franchise, but some will be propped up for sure by draft day)

I would take the bpa if garret is gone. We have so many holes taking a day one starter is a good thing. I personally prefer we rebuild the defense. Hell, I wouldn't mind loading up on defense this draft, but we have no idea who the GM or coach will be so - blah!

We are so bad I expect another top ten pick next year so just gotta draft really well and get these kids on the field - go after a qb next year.

Both Kizer and Trubisky will be drafted in top 15, maybe top 5.

Yeah, Watson is the one most likely to slide to the mid-late first round. I've seen a number of mocks where Mahomes gets picked before Watson. Haven't seen one recent mock where Watson or Mahomes is taken before Kizer or Trubisky. I'm guessing 2 QBs go in the top 10 (Kizer and Trubisky).

After that, it's hard to project where Watson will go, but I'm guessing a team will trade up for him around 20. He's too good to make it to the 2nd round.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by theninermaniac:
Depends on free agency, but if Garrett is gone, I'm either going Kizer or Trubisky.

You don't draft a qb at 2 you can get end of first (as it looks now - none of these guys scream franchise, but some will be propped up for sure by draft day)

I would take the bpa if garret is gone. We have so many holes taking a day one starter is a good thing. I personally prefer we rebuild the defense. Hell, I wouldn't mind loading up on defense this draft, but we have no idea who the GM or coach will be so - blah!

We are so bad I expect another top ten pick next year so just gotta draft really well and get these kids on the field - go after a qb next year.

Says who?

Just top 10 alone there are 5 teams that need QBs. If you want a top prospect such as Trubisky and Watson, you will need to take one at 2. There is no way you can get passed the QB gauntlet of the Browns, Jaguars, Bears, Jets and the Cards. On the other hand, Kizer might be a different matter, but there is no way I am touching him.

Trubisky looks like a nice fit for chip kellys system. Seems to have the moxy, tall, athletic, i like him.

Originally posted by Pick4Six:

I've seen lots of posts about BPA, drafting for need, etc. and it's all good but the reality is that the Browns will most likely take Myles Garrett.

If they do, who would you draft if you were the 49ers GM? (assuming you can't trade the pick)


1) Mitch Trubisky



2. DeShaun Watson



3. Jonathan Allen



4. Leonard Fournette



5. DeShone Kizer



6. Jabrill Peppers



7. Dalvin Cook




8. Reuben Foster

Ton of studs here. Assuming we cannot trade down I'd go with 4 or 1.
4 because he's a stud and probably the next sure thing.
1because I think he is the best QB prospect.

That being said, my ideal would be to trade back a couple of spots and grab 8 or 3

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
You don't draft a qb at 2 you can get end of first (as it looks now - none of these guys scream franchise, but some will be propped up for sure by draft day)

I would take the bpa if garret is gone. We have so many holes taking a day one starter is a good thing. I personally prefer we rebuild the defense. Hell, I wouldn't mind loading up on defense this draft, but we have no idea who the GM or coach will be so - blah!

We are so bad I expect another top ten pick next year so just gotta draft really well and get these kids on the field - go after a qb next year.

That is what people said about Carson Wentz around this same time last year. Don't be shocked when both Trubisky and Kizer wind up going in the top 10.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by HERN:

What if the browns draft Garrett and the 49ers trade there 2nd rounder for Jimmy G, who's the pick at #2?

Can't trade back.

Mike Williams? Fournette? Maybe another edge rusher moves up that high before all is said and done.

I wouldn't be surprised if we took the secund best pass rusher or trade down in this scenario. But wr would be the most likely pick.

I think trading down 5-7 spots, which would net us some serious picks, would be the best thing for the team. Gotta remember it's gonna be a big rebuild not one year and future first round picks are gold when teams are trading up for QB cause there's a 75℅ chance they'll be trash the next year.