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vrabbit · 2015-08-31T17:36:26-07:00

In an ideal world Kap will bounce back and we won't be part of this watch, but as the outlook doesn't seem to be too bright there's no reason not have this thread (especially after a Connor Cook Watch thread started earlier today). Now I'm a Cal fan so you'll get a lot of compliments from me on Goff though I'm definitely not here to sell him as Andrew Luck 1.01. First, some evidence: (as of this post these are the only 3 videos up in draftbreakdown on him, 2015 vs SDSU added on 9/18/15, at Texas added on 9/25/15)) Pros: I love his feet (no fetish) after the ball is snapped - constantly moving but in a very controlled fashion which allows him to make a good throw at any given time. He has very good accuracy as evidenced by the film which will show the ball is almost always between the numbers. Great, not elite, arm strength that allows him to make all the throws. Different release points. Above average at scanning the field and going through his progressions. Above-average pocket presence/awareness. Not a statue - not Kap either by any means as far as being a running threat but he has good mobility and will pick up yards on the ground if you ignore that part of his game completely. He'll throw a good ball on the run. Good command of the huddle and gets a ++ for leadership thanks to being named team captain for a second straight season (by his teammates this time around, I forget whether by players or coaches last season). Experience - a starter since game one of his true freshman season. Cons: Decision-making can and definitely needs to improve. Still too many head-scratching decisions as the film will also show. Legitimate questions about his frame and whether he's too fragile for the NFL. He reportedly played at 210lbs last season (he's 6'4") and reports indicate he's up to 215lbs right now although I'll believe it when I see him in action starting this weekend. To be fair, he hasn't missed a game yet in two full seasons as a starter but defenses are a whole different monster at the pro level so concerns about how fragile he may be are definitely legit. On the plus side that same frame should allow him to put on some weight so we'll just have to wait and see until a combine weigh-in. By all accounts a smart/bright kid but can he quickly adapt to a pro-style system? This will be a big question when teams consider whether to grade him as a first rounder. He plays strictly from the gun (some pistol) and so there's very little film of him taking a snap under center and dropping back. There will also be a question about whether he can handle a more complex offense (he's admitted on interviews that coaches make game-plans easy) but this is less of a concern to me as he is bright/smart with a very good football IQ. ***************** The stats will make you like him and this is partly a result of the system although make no mistake - a lot of it is a result of how good Goff is. 2013 (true freshman): 320/531 (60.3%), 3,508yds (6.6 avg) 18TD 10INT 123.2 rating. 2014 (sophomore): 316/509 (62.1%), 3,973yds (7.8 avg), 35TD, 7INT, 147.6 rating. My projections for 2015: 338/520 (65%), 4,500yds, 43TD, 10INT. What we can all agree on is that as far as QB prospects go Goff is definitely someone to keep our eyes on this season. He's said all the right things this offseason as far as the draft hype goes. Not listening to it, not focused on the future, wants to win at Cal, wants to win every week and everything else will take care of itself. It remains to be seen whether he'll really be able to deal with that pressure during the season. For those of you who know nothing about Goff, make sure you have time to read this piece: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/25297136/how-cals-jared-goff-became-nations-top-nfl-quarterback-prospect

Sep 29, 2015 at 1:52 PM

#121

VinculumJuris
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Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Disappointed that you missed the chance to call this "the turn and cough for Goff".

#JerkOffForGoff?

Sep 29, 2015 at 1:56 PM

#122

Eli_23
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How does he compare to Aaron Rodgers?

Sep 29, 2015 at 2:58 PM

#123

slowriot
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Worst SB odds (closest thing to updated #1 pick odds):
1 CHI
2 JAX
3 CLE
4 SF
5 TB
6 NO
7 WAS
8 TEN
9 STL
10 DET

Sep 29, 2015 at 3:10 PM

#124

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Originally posted by slowriot:
Worst SB odds (closest thing to updated #1 pick odds):
1 CHI
2 JAX
3 CLE
4 SF
5 TB
6 NO
7 WAS
8 TEN
9 STL
10 DET

Both QB's could be gone by pick 3. And Bosa will be picked by whoever doesn't take the QB. Best OT falls to us which is great IMO. Either Tunsil or Stanley right now.

Sep 29, 2015 at 3:36 PM

#125

slowriot
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Originally posted by jreff22:
Both QB's could be gone by pick 3. And Bosa will be picked by whoever doesn't take the QB. Best OT falls to us which is great IMO. Either Tunsil or Stanley right now.

Anthony Davis could be back next season. He'll be only 26. Staley should still have a few good years left. OL definitely a clear need though.

Sep 29, 2015 at 4:06 PM

#126

SundayTicket
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Originally posted by Eli_23:
How does he compare to Aaron Rodgers?

+1, lets get it right this time. and draft the right Rodgers lol!

Sep 29, 2015 at 4:11 PM

#127

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by jreff22:
he will end up #1 overall...we wont sniff that

He'll end up with the Saints. Just how Luck wound up with the Colts after they had Peyton Manning all those years.

No, I am still hopeful. Continuing on this week, I am convinced we will get blown out again. We are just 1 game behind the Bears going for the bottom spot. We can make it!! Let's go 9ers!! LOL. Once we land a legit QB, there will be hope again for this franchise as we fix the O-line, D-line and the rest of the issues.

Sep 29, 2015 at 4:14 PM

#128

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Originally posted by Eli_23:
How does he compare to Aaron Rodgers?

Texas DC compares Cal's Jared Goff to Packers' Aaron Rodgers

And for Texas defensive coordinator Vance Bedford, they're downright legitimate."This is Aaron Rodgers. He's the real deal. This young man is exceptional," Bedford said of Goff, per Kirk Bohls of the Austin American-Statesman. Bedford went on to call Goff one of the best quarterbacks he's ever faced at the college level, which is high praise coming from a coach who has been a defensive assistant at the major college or NFL level since 1987.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000531758/article/texas-dc-compares-cals-jared-goff-to-packers-aaron-rodgers

Could Jared Goff Be the Second Coming of Aaron Rodgers at Cal?

There is enough speculation about the NFL swirling around him (including a Mel Kiper column that rated him the top quarterback prospect among underclassmen, ahead of Penn State's Christian Hackenberg and Ohio State's Cardale Jones) that Cal felt the need to issue a statement from Goff declaring that he wouldn't talk about such things until after the season.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2530702-jared-goff-this-homegrown-heisman-hopeful-plans-to-make-cal-relevant-again

Sep 29, 2015 at 5:45 PM

#129

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Originally posted by slowriot:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Both QB's could be gone by pick 3. And Bosa will be picked by whoever doesn't take the QB. Best OT falls to us which is great IMO. Either Tunsil or Stanley right now.

Anthony Davis could be back next season. He'll be only 26. Staley should still have a few good years left. OL definitely a clear need though.

Don't trust Davis. And if he does come back we kick him inside at OG to help our new OT.

Sep 29, 2015 at 5:53 PM

#130

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he is a chicago bear.... very soon

Sep 29, 2015 at 5:57 PM

#131

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Originally posted by blizzuntz:
he is a chicago bear.... very soon

We can't let that happen.

Sep 29, 2015 at 6:06 PM

#132

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Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
he is a chicago bear.... very soon

We can't let that happen.

Jed is doing a good job to prevent it

Sep 29, 2015 at 6:10 PM

#133

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Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
he is a chicago bear.... very soon

We can't let that happen.

Jed is doing a good job to prevent it

We just have to be strategically smart about this. We really need to tank for the rest of the season to give us the very best possible position to kick-start this total rebuild and it starts with a legit franchise QB.

Sep 29, 2015 at 6:11 PM

#134

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Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
he is a chicago bear.... very soon

We can't let that happen.

Jed is doing a good job to prevent it

We just have to be strategically smart about this. We really need to tank for the rest of the season to give us the very best possible position to kick-start this total rebuild and it starts with a legit franchise QB.

Sep 29, 2015 at 6:15 PM

#135

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Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
he is a chicago bear.... very soon

We can't let that happen.

Looks like the Bears may be doing more house cleaning, they have to be favorites for #1:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/what-s-next-for-wheeling--dealing-bears--trade-matt-forte--jay-cutler-172404441.html