The #SuckForGoff Watch

Dude has noodle arms

If only Garoppolo.....

If only Garoppolo.....

Originally posted by Ike49:
Dude has noodle arms

my boy AJ has guns that are 4 times bigger than Goff's arms, he can't make NFL throws though.

Darin Taylor @darin926@nfldraftscout when u get a chance can u give ur opinion on Goff vs. Kessler?- thanks man

Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout 4m4 minutes ago
Goff is an elite prospect. Kessler is a late Day 2 QB. I don't see the arm or poise from Kessler.

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
If only Garoppolo.....

If only Garoppolo.....

I wanted him too, but we handed him to the Patriots. Just too bad.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by The411:
Goff is a franchise QB and the best one to come out of college in years.

From Matt Miller's Week 3 Scouting Report (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2571538-2016-nfl-draft-scouting-notebook-for-week-3) (Also, I find Bleacher Report to be a glorified small step above Rant Sports or SB Nation, and I hate having to click through their slide shows, but I think Miller is pretty good and fairly dialed in to the CFB scene):

— And now on to that note from the top: "the best quarterback since Andrew Luck." That's what one high-ranking college scout texted me about California quarterback Jared Goff late this week. Goff, who was profiled in this spot last week, is definitely on pace to be one of the higher-graded quarterbacks I've scouted.

Here's that profile from his Week 2 report (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2568337-2016-nfl-draft-matt-millers-scouting-notebook-for-week-2):

No. 16 Quarterback Jared Goff, Cal (6'4", 205 lbs)

Strengths: Goff is a smart, analytical film nerd and it shows on the field. A three-year starter, he's developed well in the Bear Raid offense (a progression-based offense featuring plenty of run/pass options and largely based on downfield throws). Goff loves the game and spends his time off the field immersed in football.

On the field, Goff has the ability to make changes to play calls and protection in the shotgun, no-huddle offense. He's asked to process many things pre- and post-snap and handles it well. Goff pops up when hit and shows an on-field toughness. He's an above-average athlete with quick feet and flexible hips and shoulders.

Goff puts the ball on the correct shoulder when throwing down the field and won't lead his receivers into traffic. He understands touch and anticipation. His arm is strong enough to throw the 15-yard-out on a line, to thread the ball into tight windows on underneath routes and throw 50-yard bombs such as he did against San Diego State. Goff is quick to step up in the pocket and slides from pressure using short, quick, choppy steps in the pocket with the ball always held in the ready position and his eyes downfield (a la Peyton Manning).



Weaknesses: Goff has a lean frame and has had to work to pack weight on. Cal lists him at 215 pounds, but scouts say he's closer to 205. The Bear Raid system gives him the protection of coaches making audibles and calls from the sideline, so he hasn't huddled or called a play in three years.

Goff isn't a tackle-breaker as a runner and won't elude blitzers to gain positive yards. His arm strength is good, but not great, and he can float the ball to the sideline at times.

His biggest flaw is a fadeaway tendency when throwing the ball. He doesn't always step into throws, but instead fades the ball off his back foot with his momentum going away from the line of scrimmage rather than toward it.



Pro Comparison: Eli Manning, New York Giants

Goff is close to perfect as a quarterback prospect, and his flaws are all fixable ones. Like Eli Manning, he has picturesque footwork in the pocket, aggressive downfield vision and the arm to make every throw in the playbook. Goff doesn't turn the ball over at Cal as much as Manning has in the NFL, but from a skills and athleticism perspective, they're very similar.

Originally posted by Spike1000:
From Matt Miller's Week 3 Scouting Report (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2571538-2016-nfl-draft-scouting-notebook-for-week-3)

No. 16 Quarterback Jared Goff, Cal (6'4", 205 lbs)
Pro Comparison: Eli Manning, New York Giants

Goff is close to perfect as a quarterback prospect, and his flaws are all fixable ones. Like Eli Manning, he has picturesque footwork in the pocket, aggressive downfield vision and the arm to make every throw in the playbook. Goff doesn't turn the ball over at Cal as much as Manning has in the NFL, but from a skills and athleticism perspective, they're very similar.

If this is half-way accurate, I'll take it.

Originally posted by slowriot:
Darin Taylor @darin926@nfldraftscout when u get a chance can u give ur opinion on Goff vs. Kessler?- thanks man

Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout 4m4 minutes ago
Goff is an elite prospect. Kessler is a late Day 2 QB. I don't see the arm or poise from Kessler.

Fine by me, I'd rather take a QB that knows how take snaps from under center and call his own audibles on the seoncd day. Rather than spend a 1st round pick on a QB who comes from a gimmick system. If Goff falls to the 2nd then of course it's a no-brainer, but give me an elite Offensive Tackle in the 1st or a stud pass rusher in the top 10 if the 9ers are headed for that position. We've picked two QB's that came from gimmick offenses, let's try and take one this time that has some Pro Style experience, and I could give a s*** if that QB is mobile I want a damn pocket passer!!!

SUCK FOR GOFF. im already ordering my 49er jersey with his name on the back.

Thats what Indy did and it worked so **** it

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by slowriot:
Darin Taylor @darin926@nfldraftscout when u get a chance can u give ur opinion on Goff vs. Kessler?- thanks man

Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout 4m4 minutes ago
Goff is an elite prospect. Kessler is a late Day 2 QB. I don't see the arm or poise from Kessler.

Fine by me, I'd rather take a QB that knows how take snaps from under center and call his own audibles on the seoncd day. Rather than spend a 1st round pick on a QB who comes from a gimmick system. If Goff falls to the 2nd then of course it's a no-brainer, but give me an elite Offensive Tackle in the 1st or a stud pass rusher in the top 10 if the 9ers are headed for that position. We've picked two QB's that came from gimmick offenses, let's try and take one this time that has some Pro Style experience, and I could give a s*** if that QB is mobile I want a damn pocket passer!!!

but Goff IS a pocket passer, and a great one at that with footwork that allows him to make up for a s**tty O-line to keep plays alive and make plays, making throws even when he knows he's about to get drilled. Why can't you bring him in and adapt the offense to his strengths while you continue to teach/coach him into being an under center QB? Isn't that what Mariota is getting in Tennessee?

By the way, I'm far from joining the wagon that wants a QB drafted in round 1 but I do think Goff is the best prospect right now.

Originally posted by SundayTicket:
SUCK FOR GOFF. im already ordering my 49er jersey with his name on the back.

Thats what Indy did and it worked so **** it

Post a pic when you get it. LOL.

Originally posted by vrabbit:
but Goff IS a pocket passer, and a great one at that with footwork that allows him to make up for a s**tty O-line to keep plays alive and make plays, making throws even when he knows he's about to get drilled. Why can't you bring him in and adapt the offense to his strengths while you continue to teach/coach him into being an under center QB? Isn't that what Mariota is getting in Tennessee?

By the way, I'm far from joining the wagon that wants a QB drafted in round 1 but I do think Goff is the best prospect right now.

That's how I see it too. Goff is my favorite QB prospect of the bunch. He's not an "elite" prospect like an Andrew Luck or anything like that. But he definitely profiles as being a pretty darn good QB. I like the Mariota comparison in terms of the footwork and quick release. It allows him to make a quick adjustment from college to pro offense, like Mariota has. Decent arm talent, and very intelligent.

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by SundayTicket:
SUCK FOR GOFF. im already ordering my 49er jersey with his name on the back.

Thats what Indy did and it worked so **** it

Post a pic when you get it. LOL.

Draft day edition...

Originally posted by SundayTicket:

Thats what Indy did and it worked so **** it

Except Luck was a sure fire #1 pick two years before he entered the draft.

Depends where we draft for whether I'd want Goff. Ideally I want O-line, OLB or even WR, whatever is the BPA at the time but it should be a position of need.

QB.....not sure it's a position of need yet....