49ers Draft Grade

B-

The 3rd and 4th rounds really pulled it out of the C or D range for me.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by goldlame2013:
Judging the Redskins draft and the 49ers draft, I now know who the pretender is between Baalke and McCloughan. Scot is gonna turn the Redskins into the Seahawks/49ers. Baalke is clumsily trying to do what Scot did best and is failing miserably. A couple more drafts like this and 1-15 is what this team will become.

The same guy who drafted Kentwan Balmer and Chilo Rachal........I mean..uh...uhm...2012...2012...2012.

This-hilarious, plus you should be able to bring in talent when you are picking from the 5th spot in nearly every round-you can tell this is a noob to football. Plus if the niners fail, it is the coaching, after all Harbaugh worked with the same GM and had success.

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by goldlame2013:
Judging the Redskins draft and the 49ers draft, I now know who the pretender is between Baalke and McCloughan. Scot is gonna turn the Redskins into the Seahawks/49ers. Baalke is clumsily trying to do what Scot did best and is failing miserably. A couple more drafts like this and 1-15 is what this team will become.

Excellent point.

I had always wondered about that, now is clear who the real McCoy is. I just hope after this performance the countdown to Baalke's demise or departure begins. I don't think he will be able to last 2 more disastrous drafts in this magnitude, I reckon 1 tops.

Nope dumb point-Alex Smith, Balmer, Chilo...need I say more. Again picking fifth in each round-how hard is that to do?

Originally posted by jreff22:

C+

Need to see AA be worth that pick, and that punter....

I went with the same grade for now. The grade can prove to be better or worse depending on how their careers turn out. It's good to see that about most (about 76% of the vote) are trying to be relatively positive ( A-C-).

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
Lol...are you all surprised by Baalke's draft picks? I'm not, it's the same old Baalke from 5 yrs ago. I don't get why some of you are so surprised and getting all worked up with Baalke's pick. Baalke is being Baalke whether we like it or not. His ego is bigger than the fantasy world he thinks he lives in.

You are right, not surprised at all. My only slight surprise is even by his own standards he managed to top the total ineptness of his poor performance of all the drafts since he took over in 2011. I really don't know what the hell he is trying to do, like you said it could be ego or may be he is just trying to portray himself as some sort of maverick who is happy to draft players that noone wants or ACL damaged goods. His drafting philosophy is simple, he just wants to stockpile picks like if he was some 4 year old kid playing some card game with his little friends. In the process,we have missed out on 5 years worth of impact players from the draft. Other than Eric Reid and Carlos Hyde, I really wonder what decent players has he drafted? Of course, as usual, some of his blinded supporters would say hey how about Aldon Smith huh?! OK, let me just put this one to bed once and for all. First off, Aldon Smith is not better than JJ Watt who was selected by the Texans 4 picks later. To add, not only JJ Watt is a far superior player, he doesn't have all the off-field baggage that comes with Aldon Smith. Oh and I haven't even mentioned the countless busts that he has drafted like the AJ Jenkins, Vance McDonalds and LMJs of the world, just to name a few.

Less than 24 hours after the draft, I would give the 2015 a unequivocal incomplete.

I would suggest that it makes more sense to wait at least 8 regular season games before even beginning to give any player drafted a grade.

I am still trying to find basic information on the some of the players, we drafted.

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by goldlame2013:

Judging the Redskins draft and the 49ers draft, I now know who the pretender is between Baalke and McCloughan. Scot is gonna turn the Redskins into the Seahawks/49ers. Baalke is clumsily trying to do what Scot did best and is failing miserably. A couple more drafts like this and 1-15 is what this team will become.

Excellent point.

I had always wondered about that, now is clear who the real McCoy is. I just hope after this performance the countdown to Baalke's demise or departure begins. I don't think he will be able to last 2 more disastrous drafts in this magnitude, I reckon 1 tops.

Baloney. Both of you. I am going to enjoy watching you proved wrong.

Paul Gutierrez of ESPN gave it a thumbs down. I've never cared for Gutierrez, he needs to go back to covering the Raiders.

The draft felt like one of those brilliant ideas one gets when they're drunk or stoned, which are underwhelming for those who are sober. Perhaps they had one too many in the draft room?

Draft grades less than 24 hours after the thing was done are beyond moronic - they are Walter Football-calibre idiotic. Now, I'm not saying that I did not find the picks bizarre. They were totally out of left field. And they kept getting whackier and whackier. But there is one pattern of Baalke's reign which we know and which, based on record, we can trust. He drafts for people to contribute the year after they get picked. Now, I think that with all the departures this offseason this is a bit risky, but to be fair it has worked for him so far. We have had tremendous depth during the last four-five years. Oh, he's struck out on quite a few too, and not just on the famous 2012 draft. Borland for me is a bust pick - sure he played well, but he played for only one season. For a third rounder that's a bust. It makes no difference if he busted because of injury, bad play or retirement -he's no longer with the team, he's a bust. On the other hand the team has been loaded all through Baalke's reign. Some of this is due to the older drafts, some of it on the excellent 2011 draft, and (partly) on the '13 and '14 versions, some of it on his FA. But we've been loaded, and our cap has been manageable. I'm not going to question his talent acquisition strategy - yet. This is not the 2003-4 offseason - yet. Plus he seems to have scored some really great weed or whatever it is they were smoking in that war room, which is always an asset to anyone

BTW - everyone keeps moaning about us being awful in drafting WRs. How about in drafting RBs? We keep doing it, and they keep falling by the wayside: Coffee (remember him?). LaMike. Lattimore. Hunter (whom I love as a player, but he's too unlucky with injury to be of much help).

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:

Exactly. He's building a bully with massive players on the inside, two huge/athletic TEs, a big/physical safety and a big/physical WR. The more you look at what Baalke did here, the more you have to love it.

Just by looking at the coaching staff you can see that this isn't going to be a finesse team with guys like Tomsula, Sparano and his Parcells background, Tim Lewis, a long time coach with the Steelers, Mangini with the Patriots back when they played head-thumping defense, a lot of guys with smash and crash credentials. If anything with Harbaugh gone, Baalke might be giving in even more to his Parcells roots. A big, scary, physical defense that plays with bad intentions, that is what I'm expecting to see from the 49ers in the near future.

Absolutely agree and wish more people could see this.

Oh, I see it loud and clear. The players picked in this draft were all massive human beings. Harbaugh talked about building a bully. Tomsula and Baalke are dead f**king serious about it. Not to mention every one of these guys are also skilled and athletic. Hell of a draft imo.

As usual Ghost, Phoenix, and SofaKing you guys are right on. I consider myself a level headed fan like you guys. I find myself agreeing with you about 95% of the time lol.

Originally posted by Kuya:
We grabbed a bunch of projects and reached A LOT.

I don't see how this draft doesn't get a failing grade. D at best.

and I don't see how you can grade something before they have had a chance to play, all people who do this for a living say you can't grade until at least three years later, although I will admit some are more obvious and you can like LMJ and Jenkins.

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
Lol...are you all surprised by Baalke's draft picks? I'm not, it's the same old Baalke from 5 yrs ago. I don't get why some of you are so surprised and getting all worked up with Baalke's pick. Baalke is being Baalke whether we like it or not. His ego is bigger than the fantasy world he thinks he lives in.

You are right, not surprised at all. My only slight surprise is even by his own standards he managed to top the total ineptness of his poor performance of all the drafts since he took over in 2011. I really don't know what the hell he is trying to do, like you said it could be ego or may be he is just trying to portray himself as some sort of maverick who is happy to draft players that noone wants or ACL damaged goods. His drafting philosophy is simple, he just wants to stockpile picks like if he was some 4 year old kid playing some card game with his little friends. In the process,we have missed out on 5 years worth of impact players from the draft. Other than Eric Reid and Carlos Hyde, I really wonder what decent players has he drafted? Of course, as usual, some of his blinded supporters would say hey how about Aldon Smith huh?! OK, let me just put this one to bed once and for all. First off, Aldon Smith is not better than JJ Watt who was selected by the Texans 4 picks later. To add, not only JJ Watt is a far superior player, he doesn't have all the off-field baggage that comes with Aldon Smith. Oh and I haven't even mentioned the countless busts that he has drafted like the AJ Jenkins, Vance McDonalds and LMJs of the world, just to name a few

First I won't argue that Watts is a great player, but the niners scheme emphasizes the LB and the pass rush comes from them and that is what they were looking for. As for for off field baggage, there was NONE at the time of the draft, where as Bowman had, point you cannot tell. Look at the history of the draft, there were those that were clean and turned into headcases, while others made mistakes but learned from them while others didn't. Aldon was what the niners needed for the type of 3-4 they ran.

You talk about drafting players who would have gone earlier if not for an injury, again, you can't tell, people who have had a clean bill of health all through there college career have gotten injury prone when they reached the pros while those who have had injuries have played a long time, case in point Gore and many others. Maybe you are to young to remember the injured players coming out of college that Walsh selected that succeeded.

Speaking of the great Walsh-he had more than several drafts where he whiffed completely like the draft that had Jenkins and LMJ.

Name me one GM that is perfect and I will show you one that whiffed many times.

What players has he picked, well you are forgetting Bowman, Iupati, Anthony Davis, Aldon, Kaep (while he is not Brady, Manning, or Rodgers I am willing to bet that more than half the teams in the NFL wouldn't mind him as their starting QB), Culliver, Hunter, Miller, Reid, Kilgore, Hyde, Aaron Lynch, Borland (yes he retired-but that doesn't count as a whiff-talent wise he was a good pick and proved it in his only year-NO ONE saw it coming (retirement),

Others are on the right track like Dontae, Carradine (finished strong in 2014), Dial

While others you can't judge yet like, Ward (can't judge yet-but if you are going to reference what Marshall did to him, just remember he was a rookie and even Dieon Sanders got burned by someone named Rice and others), Marcus Martin, Brandon Thomas, Ellington, Riser, Millard, Ramsey, not to mention this draft class.

Plus you don't just judge a GM by the draft alone, but also by the fa he brings in like-Carlos, Cox, Boldin, Bathea, Torey Smith, and Whitner to name a few and he DIDN'T OVER SPEND!

Originally posted by GorefullBore:
Paul Gutierrez of ESPN gave it a thumbs down. I've never cared for Gutierrez, he needs to go back to covering the Raiders.

Yeah, what's this clown doing covering the Niners? He's a Raiders guy.

Originally posted by paulk205:
The draft felt like one of those brilliant ideas one gets when they're drunk or stoned, which are underwhelming for those who are sober. Perhaps they had one too many in the draft room?

Draft grades less than 24 hours after the thing was done are beyond moronic - they are Walter Football-calibre idiotic. Now, I'm not saying that I did not find the picks bizarre. They were totally out of left field. And they kept getting whackier and whackier. But there is one pattern of Baalke's reign which we know and which, based on record, we can trust. He drafts for people to contribute the year after they get picked. Now, I think that with all the departures this offseason this is a bit risky, but to be fair it has worked for him so far. We have had tremendous depth during the last four-five years. Oh, he's struck out on quite a few too, and not just on the famous 2012 draft. Borland for me is a bust pick - sure he played well, but he played for only one season. For a third rounder that's a bust. It makes no difference if he busted because of injury, bad play or retirement -he's no longer with the team, he's a bust. On the other hand the team has been loaded all through Baalke's reign. Some of this is due to the older drafts, some of it on the excellent 2011 draft, and (partly) on the '13 and '14 versions, some of it on his FA. But we've been loaded, and our cap has been manageable. I'm not going to question his talent acquisition strategy - yet. This is not the 2003-4 offseason - yet. Plus he seems to have scored some really great weed or whatever it is they were smoking in that war room, which is always an asset to anyone

BTW - everyone keeps moaning about us being awful in drafting WRs. How about in drafting RBs? We keep doing it, and they keep falling by the wayside: Coffee (remember him?). LaMike. Lattimore. Hunter (whom I love as a player, but he's too unlucky with injury to be of much help).

This...

but to me the Borland pick is not a bust because NO ONE saw it coming and he played good in that one year, a waste yes, but as an evaluator of talent, no, heart yes. Lattimore yes-perhaps that should have been examined more, Gale Sayers career was cut short, but I would never call him a bust. I think Hunter is/was a good pick, but yes unlucky, but can't tell with these things. Gore made it and that was after suffering like Lattimore did and he was a third rounder, I would look at
GMs ability to be correct on a players ability and not because the person later goes nuts (Aldon and Culliver), or gets injurey plagued (hunter).

Originally posted by nj9er:
Last year we were 25th in points per game with about 19. I don't see how this draft increased that number. Maybe the coaching changes can give us an extra 8 points a game.

Maybe??? I'm pretty sure that our coaching staff and Kaepernick and Vernon sucked last season big-time. Save for an additional vertical threat, Baalke provided the offense with EVERYthing they needed to success.