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May not follow the exact framework, but possible Baalke-minded projections for the area we would select in, factoring in current pre-draft visits, could be something like the following:

1 (15) Owa Odighizuwa-DE/OLB-UCLA
2 (14) Marcus Hardison-DE-Arizona State
3 (15) Denzel Perryman-ILB-Miami
4 (27) Javorius Allen-RB-USC
4 (33) Stefon Diggs-WR-Maryland
5 (15) Sean Hickey-OL-Syracuse
6 (14) Deshazor Everett-CB-Texas A&M
7 (29) Rory Anderson-TE-South Carolina
7 (37) Tavaris Barnes-DE-Clemson

#15 is way too high for Odighizuwa, but could see it with a trade down into latter part of Rd 1. Really like picks 2 thru 5 and can see Baalke liking these guys, sort of doubt Perryman makes it to mid 3rd Rd.

Originally posted by crew:

#15 is way too high for Odighizuwa, but could see it with a trade down into latter part of Rd 1. Really like picks 2 thru 5 and can see Baalke liking these guys, sort of doubt Perryman makes it to mid 3rd Rd.

Odighizuwa's only real questions have to do with medical, but he was healthy this year. If the medical checks out, he's a top 20 prospect. More than off the charts measurables, he has experience in the 3-4, was a very good player for UCLA, and has the highly-coveted long-armed attribute (33 3/4 inch arms).

The value of pass rushers has most certainly increased and I expect there to be a run on them. He's currently #4 on my board, above Gregory and Dupree. I need to watch more of Gregory and Owa to further compare before finalizing the grade, but right now he's a 1st round talent in my eyes and unless he is medically red flagged, a team that loves him could definitely take him at least within the top 25.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
May not follow the exact framework, but possible Baalke-minded projections for the area we would select in, factoring in current pre-draft visits, could be something like the following:

1 (15) Owa Odighizuwa-DE/OLB-UCLA
2 (14) Marcus Hardison-DE-Arizona State
3 (15) Denzel Perryman-ILB-Miami
4 (27) Javorius Allen-RB-USC
4 (33) Stefon Diggs-WR-Maryland
5 (15) Sean Hickey-OL-Syracuse
6 (14) Deshazor Everett-CB-Texas A&M
7 (29) Rory Anderson-TE-South Carolina
7 (37) Tavaris Barnes-DE-Clemson

This absolutely fits with the Baalke-theme...his M.O., team needs and formula...very hard to go right down the needs list in perfect order...the key is to get as many of the needs on the top end like you just did here! In fact you hit the first 7 in a row here! You left FS, T, NT, QB and PK/K to nab as UDFA's or in FA prior to the draft.

1 (15/15) - OLB/DEx2
2 (14/46) - WR/ILB
3 (15/79) - LG/RB
4 (27/126) - CB/FS
4 (33/132) - LT/RT
5 (15/151) - NT
6 (14/189) - QB
7 (29/246) - PK/P
7 (37/54) - TE/H-Back

Well done!

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

May not follow the exact framework, but possible Baalke-minded projections for the area we would select in, factoring in current pre-draft visits, could be something like the following:

1 (15) Owa Odighizuwa-DE/OLB-UCLA
2 (14) Marcus Hardison-DE-Arizona State
3 (15) Denzel Perryman-ILB-Miami
4 (27) Javorius Allen-RB-USC
4 (33) Stefon Diggs-WR-Maryland
5 (15) Sean Hickey-OL-Syracuse
6 (14) Deshazor Everett-CB-Texas A&M
7 (29) Rory Anderson-TE-South Carolina
7 (37) Tavaris Barnes-DE-Clemson

This absolutely fits with the Baalke-theme...his M.O., team needs and formula...very hard to go right down the needs list in perfect order...the key is to get as many of the needs on the top end like you just did here! In fact you hit the first 7 in a row here! You left FS, T, NT, QB and PK/K to nab as UDFA's or in FA prior to the draft.

1 (15/15) - OLB/DEx2
2 (14/46) - WR/ILB
3 (15/79) - LG/RB
4 (27/126) - CB/FS
4 (33/132) - LT/RT
5 (15/151) - NT
6 (14/189) - QB
7 (29/246) - PK/P
7 (37/54) - TE/H-Back

Well done!

Thank you, my friend.




In all seriousness, I think we may look to add a veteran QB after June 1st to avoid the compensatory factors if we signed one sooner. Then if I were to change anything here, it'd be to add a CB/S tweener sooner. Really like Eric Rowe, but haven't seen any documented 49ers interest yet. We've gotten UDFA NT's before (Ian Williams) so I wouldn't put it past us to try it again. We'll see. But I think that seems pretty reasonable.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Odighizuwa's only real questions have to do with medical, but he was healthy this year. If the medical checks out, he's a top 20 prospect. More than off the charts measurables, he has experience in the 3-4, was a very good player for UCLA, and has the highly-coveted long-armed attribute (33 3/4 inch arms).

The value of pass rushers has most certainly increased and I expect there to be a run on them. He's currently #4 on my board, above Gregory and Dupree. I need to watch more of Gregory and Owa to further compare before finalizing the grade, but right now he's a 1st round talent in my eyes and unless he is medically red flagged, a team that loves him could definitely take him at least within the top 25.

OO is a good pass-rusher??? Read that he played against the run often whereas the pass-rush experience is pretty limited.

Would love to see Baalke draft Eric Rowe, who he would move to Safety. Xavier Williams NT Northern Iowa would be a good pick in the 5th/6th Rd.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Thank you, my friend.




In all seriousness, I think we may look to add a veteran QB after June 1st to avoid the compensatory factors if we signed one sooner. Then if I were to change anything here, it'd be to add a CB/S tweener sooner. Really like Eric Rowe, but haven't seen any documented 49ers interest yet. We've gotten UDFA NT's before (Ian Williams) so I wouldn't put it past us to try it again. We'll see. But I think that seems pretty reasonable.

That's an excellent point. Baalke has a track record of nailing down some of these "other" needs under the radar a month before the draft and after June 1st. Very true! So yeah, with your draft, FS, T, NT, QB and PK/K could be taken this route. FS is my only real concern b/c of Reid. I feel good with McCray behind Bethea though.

Who else is ready to give it a shot:

1 (15/15) - OLB/DE
2 (14/46) - WR/ILB
3 (15/79) - LG/RB
4 (27/126) - CB/FS
4 (33/132) - LT/RT
5 (15/151) - NT
6 (14/189) - QB
7 (29/246) - PK/P
7 (37/54) - TE/H-Back

Try to hit your positions in each round if you can if they remain high on your board. But for sure, try to wrap up as many from your board covering as many positions on the top-need list here (i.e. OLB/DE, WR/ILB, LG/RB, CB/FS, etc.). The rest, try to get as UDFA's and in FA/post-June 1st cuts.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Who else is ready to give it a shot:

1 (15/15) - OLB/DE
2 (14/46) - WR/ILB
3 (15/79) - LG/RB
4 (27/126) - CB/FS
4 (33/132) - LT/RT
5 (15/151) - NT
6 (14/189) - QB
7 (29/246) - PK/P
7 (37/54) - TE/H-Back

Try to hit your positions in each round if you can if they remain high on your board. But for sure, try to wrap up as many from your board covering as many positions on the top-need list here (i.e. OLB/DE, WR/ILB, LG/RB, CB/FS, etc.). The rest, try to get as UDFA's and in FA/post-June 1st cuts.

Things don't line up perfectly on CBS! But some good players!
1 (15/15) DL Brown
2 (14/46) ILB McKinney
3 (15/79) -OG Marpet
4 (27/126) - DE Anderson
4 (33/132) -RB Artis-Payne or CB Glenn
5 (15/151) -WR Montgomery
6 (14/189) -CB Quandre Diggs
7 (29/246) -DL Deon Simon
7 (37/254) - WR Taylor

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Who else is ready to give it a shot:

1 (15/15) - OLB/DE
2 (14/46) - WR/ILB
3 (15/79) - LG/RB
4 (27/126) - CB/FS
4 (33/132) - LT/RT
5 (15/151) - NT
6 (14/189) - QB
7 (29/246) - PK/P
7 (37/54) - TE/H-Back

Try to hit your positions in each round if you can if they remain high on your board. But for sure, try to wrap up as many from your board covering as many positions on the top-need list here (i.e. OLB/DE, WR/ILB, LG/RB, CB/FS, etc.). The rest, try to get as UDFA's and in FA/post-June 1st cuts.

Things don't line up perfectly on CBS! But some good players!
1 (15/15) DL Brown
2 (14/46) ILB McKinney
3 (15/79) OG Marpet
4 (27/126) DE Anderson
4 (33/132) RB Artis-Payne or CB Glenn
5 (15/151) WR Montgomery
6 (14/189) CB Quandre Diggs
7 (29/246) DL Deon Simon
7 (37/254) WR Taylor

This is getting fun!

1 (15/15) - OLB/DEx2
2 (14/46) - WRx2/ILB
3 (15/79) - LG/RB
4 (27/126) - CB/FS
4 (33/132) - LT/RT
5 (15/151) - NT
6 (14/189) - QB
7 (29/246) - PK/P
7 (37/54) - TE/H-Back

There you go...you nabbed 6 of the top 8 top needs including stocking up at DE and WR...added a NT as well. You left off OLB, FS, T, QB, PK/P and TE.

Originally posted by NCommand:
This is getting fun!

1 (15/15) - OLB/DEx2
2 (14/46) - WRx2/ILB
3 (15/79) - LG/RB
4 (27/126) - CB/FS
4 (33/132) - LT/RT
5 (15/151) - NT
6 (14/189) - QB
7 (29/246) - PK/P
7 (37/54) - TE/H-Back

There you go...you nabbed 6 of the top 8 top needs including stocking up at DE and WR...added a NT as well. You left off OLB, FS, T, QB, PK/P and TE.

Yes, I see OLB as OK right now with Smith, Brooks, Lynch and Lemonier. FS is OK with Reid, Ward and Dahl and Bethea able to cover either position in a pinch. Hope they pick up a SS in FAcy. Don't think they should draft an OT unless one falls just right. There OL is OK unless they can't replace Iupati with a roster guy. QB is OK if they can bring Johnson back...he knows the team. PK and P are always guys you can pick up as undrafted FAs. TE is well taken care of unless they are looking for a guy to replace VD in the near future--7 TEs on the roster right now and Millard may be able to play there.

As it stands at this moment I believe their needs are:
1) DL/NT
2) ILB
3) RB
4) WR
5) SS
6) OG

Guess a lot depends on how they play certain positions. I think that CBs can often cover the FS spot but SS needs a tougher guy. Ward is too small to be an effective SS...liable to get injured. They have a ton of young CBs who may be able to translate to FS during TC.

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by NCommand:
This is getting fun!

1 (15/15) - OLB/DEx2
2 (14/46) - WRx2/ILB
3 (15/79) - LG/RB
4 (27/126) - CB/FS
4 (33/132) - LT/RT
5 (15/151) - NT
6 (14/189) - QB
7 (29/246) - PK/P
7 (37/54) - TE/H-Back

There you go...you nabbed 6 of the top 8 top needs including stocking up at DE and WR...added a NT as well. You left off OLB, FS, T, QB, PK/P and TE.

Yes, I see OLB as OK right now with Smith, Brooks, Lynch and Lemonier. FS is OK with Reid, Ward and Dahl and Bethea able to cover either position in a pinch. Hope they pick up a SS in FAcy. Don't think they should draft an OT unless one falls just right. There OL is OK unless they can't replace Iupati with a roster guy. QB is OK if they can bring Johnson back...he knows the team. PK and P are always guys you can pick up as undrafted FAs. TE is well taken care of unless they are looking for a guy to replace VD in the near future--7 TEs on the roster right now and Millard may be able to play there.

As it stands at this moment I believe their needs are:
1) DL/NT
2) ILB
3) RB
4) WR
5) SS
6) OG

Guess a lot depends on how they play certain positions. I think that CBs can often cover the FS spot but SS needs a tougher guy. Ward is too small to be an effective SS...liable to get injured. They have a ton of young CBs who may be able to translate to FS during TC.

Love it. I think one of the hardest parts of the draft is drafting for push-starters this year and then also thinking next year (Aldon's contract is up, Brooks may be gone, etc.) and then 2+ years down the line, etc. It's a fine fine balance, no doubt!

PS: Don't forget McCray...looks like he could be a very nice SS for us, Dahl is only here for ST (lead the team last year in ST tackles), Ward can also move back to FS as needed, Reid and concussions, etc.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Love it. I think one of the hardest parts of the draft is drafting for push-starters this year and then also thinking next year (Aldon's contract is up, Brooks may be gone, etc.) and then 2+ years down the line, etc. It's a fine fine balance, no doubt!

PS: Don't forget McCray...looks like he could be a very nice SS for us, Dahl is only here for ST (lead the team last year in ST tackles), Ward can also move back to FS as needed, Reid and concussions, etc.

Forgot McCray! He's listed as a DB on the roster and tends to escape my attention...but I think he's in the mix along with all the other young guys. I can see them playing more nickle and dime next year to help the loss of Willis...getting the best players on the field. Dahl filled in a few times last year and did so-so. At least he will know the defense and be able to help in a pinch.

I liked Fangio but wouldn't mind seeing some creativity with the front seven. Maybe they can play more 5/1 with Bowman roving and Lynch and Aldon with their hands on the ground...whatever...just make it difficult for QBs to figure out.

How about Aldon/Dial/Williams/Dorsey/Lynch with Bowman playing a rover/SS?

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Love it. I think one of the hardest parts of the draft is drafting for push-starters this year and then also thinking next year (Aldon's contract is up, Brooks may be gone, etc.) and then 2+ years down the line, etc. It's a fine fine balance, no doubt!

PS: Don't forget McCray...looks like he could be a very nice SS for us, Dahl is only here for ST (lead the team last year in ST tackles), Ward can also move back to FS as needed, Reid and concussions, etc.

Forgot McCray! He's listed as a DB on the roster and tends to escape my attention...but I think he's in the mix along with all the other young guys. I can see them playing more nickle and dime next year to help the loss of Willis...getting the best players on the field. Dahl filled in a few times last year and did so-so. At least he will know the defense and be able to help in a pinch.

I liked Fangio but wouldn't mind seeing some creativity with the front seven. Maybe they can play more 5/1 with Bowman roving and Lynch and Aldon with their hands on the ground...whatever...just make it difficult for QBs to figure out.

How about Aldon/Dial/Williams/Dorsey/Lynch with Bowman playing a rover/SS?

Oh man, you are covering some exciting ideas. How fun would it be to be Mangini with all that experience on staff ("three different schools of thought) plus his own and full knowledge of our personnel with more coming. One would be tempted to go full Madden up there. LOL.