Rising from ashes March mock draft

Originally posted by HERN:
I don't know how I feel about drafting Gurley with the first pick specially considering that Baalke might sit him for the year.

I would rather take Perryman in the 2nd, he seems to be a more polished LB.

Byron Jones should be drafted ahead of the LB in round 2, considering there's a better chance either LB would be there at 57.

I like the OL pick in the 3rd.

I'm ok with the rest of of your draft other than like other people have mentioned about the TE. I think we're ok with Davis, McDonald, and Carrier. If you really wanted a TE Clive Wilford might be a better option.

That's a good point on Jones in round 2. I had a tough time deciding which order to put Anthony and Jones. I was using CBS, Jeremiah's top 50, MadDog's board, and some mock drafts as a rough guide to draft positions and Anthony was typically ahead of Jones, but Jones was ahead of Perryman.

I prefer Anthony to Perryman because of his size and athleticism advantage and I think he will be a better coverage linebacker with a higher ceiling while Perryman will be better in run support and may be better as a rookie. Byron Jones at 46 and Denzel Perryman at 57 would be a little more realistic probably and Anthony may even fall to 57 since he is a raw and takes bad steps at times.

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That trade is not realistic dude. We traded up from 31 to 18 in 2013 and gave up a 3rd, no way will we get a 2nd, unless one of the QBs is there, which is unlikely.

East...there's no way Baalke's trading Brooks now...too valuable as an OLB and possible ILB in certain situations. He's also great in goal line stands. Remember, Aldon's in his contract season now...Brooks therefore is insurance.

I really like your first two picks...getting another beast RB is exactly what's needed. Anthony's the best ILB for our 3-4 defense...does many things well.

Where we differ is I believe Baalke will go DL much earlier than rd 4, and that's whether Justin Smith retires or not. I do like the Drew pick, though.

I like the rest of your picks, including the K late. Dawson's showing signs of tailing off.

Overall, very good mock, man.

man great mock. i only disagree about first pick.get someone else. and rb later. thanks for doing the mock doe

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
That trade is not realistic dude. We traded up from 31 to 18 in 2013 and gave up a 3rd, no way will we get a 2nd, unless one of the QBs is there, which is unlikely.

It's exactly a match based on trade values. I could see Carolina making that trade if they fall in love with a lineman and don't expect them to last. They desperately need to protect Newton after last season and Scherff could be there at 15. Our trade with the Cowboys in 2013 is widely considered one-sided (in our favor) so it's not the standard we should be comparing trades to. And we still gave up a relatively early 3rd round pick (74) to move up. In this scenario, the Panthers would be giving up a late 2nd round pick (57) to move up. It's not that unrealistic, but it would require them liking a player a lot at 15.

Love the draft up until the Conley pick where I think it starts becoming a draft bodies philosophy.

We can get much more productive players that fall in rounds 4 and beyond.

While not very top heavy this draft is really deep at certain spots and I can see there being a lot of value due to guys falling for character, loaded positions, or average workouts. For example I could easily see guys like Ty Montgomery, Henry Anderson, Quentin Rollins, Paul Dawson, Kevin White (cb), David Cobb, or David Johnson falling to day 3.

It happens every year and I think more than anything this is a draft we can't afford to target bodies but guys that have a legitimate shot to be productive starters early (productive in college but fell due to injury, poor workout, or character).

Like your line of thinking with your picks in the first 4 rounds. I like the trade down in 1st, but I would go DL instead of RB and take Armstead (Tomsula would love to have this guy).
Would substitute Perryman for Anthony in the 2nd (just on his leadership & motor). In the 4th Rd, I like Dezmin Lewis a lot over Conley (ala Martavius Bryant in the 4th last year).

I think this is one of the best mocks on the Zone so far.

i will support any mock that has us taking Gurley, although I don't think he'll be available at 25.

Ray Drew could be a nice value pick. Yet, given my opinion that we need d-line help immediately, I don't like your d-line approach here, bro.

And I really can't go along with you on the Gurley-pick. Sure, lights-out guys are always a nice addition but good RBs can be found in later rounds...the running game success is determined by the o-line anyway, just spend a look at Kubiak's system with the Texans or the Ravens respectively or look at the Steelers with RB Bell.
That would be too much of a luxury pick, imho.

I do like CB Jones, OT/OG Ogbuehi, WR Conley, ILB Anthony, WR Alford.
Meh on TE Bell (way too raw but have to keep him on the active roster, thus another TE has to be cut just for a developmental TE) and meh on the QB-pick (draft class sucks ovr and the guy is just athletic...no thx to these types).

Grade:
B-

why?:
d-line issue isn't solved sufficiently at all, RB-pick in round 1.

I agree with the statement (above):

"Baffling that the niners have gotten decimated at LB, (Willis, Borland and now chase thomas) yet you want to get rid of a LB who can rush the passer, play ILB ( did it in cincinatti) and has his salary de-escalated."

The suggested Brooks trade doesn't net us much (i.e. a sixth round pick in 2016). I think the 49ers need to keep Brooks at this point.

Originally posted by davidb:
I agree with the statement (above):

"Baffling that the niners have gotten decimated at LB, (Willis, Borland and now chase thomas) yet you want to get rid of a LB who can rush the passer, play ILB ( did it in cincinatti) and has his salary de-escalated."

The suggested Brooks trade doesn't net us much (i.e. a sixth round pick in 2016). I think the 49ers need to keep Brooks at this point.

This. The only reason Brooks should be traded is his s**tty demeanor during the season.
But given our situation at OLB and ILB, we cannot afford to let Brooks go, either through a trade or a cut or whatever UNLESS we find a good replacement.

Originally posted by davidb:
I agree with the statement (above):

"Baffling that the niners have gotten decimated at LB, (Willis, Borland and now chase thomas) yet you want to get rid of a LB who can rush the passer, play ILB ( did it in cincinatti) and has his salary de-escalated."

The suggested Brooks trade doesn't net us much (i.e. a sixth round pick in 2016). I think the 49ers need to keep Brooks at this point.

The 6th round pick is more a formality than anything. The real purpose of the trade would be to get rid of his salary going forward because he's terribly overpaid as a backup OLB or ILB even after his de-escalation. We don't need the cap room this year after everything that happened in the offseason, but it would help going forward. I would have loved to see us use some of that cap room to keep Culliver or Cox so we didn't have a hole at CB. In general, I'd rather use that money to re-sign our own guys or pay a free agent market value instead of overpaying Brooks to sit on the bench and complain. Given my plan heading into the draft of sacrificing the season and rebuilding, it makes sense to free up future cap space and unload worthless assets, especially when Brooks could be untradeable in a year (getting older and his cap number is rising).

If we do end up trading him, we would probably have to draft multiple linebackers or acquire a cheaper option in free agency. I wouldn't be opposed to either one after seeing Brooks act up last year. I do like Wilhoite and if Bowman isn't healthy, it really doesn't matter whether or not we have a good backup at ILB because we aren't winning anything.

sacrificing the season and rebuilding???

that, my friend, will certainly not happen. We are not the Jags who have holes all over the place.